Chiropractors?

[tyler811]

Had a friend ask me about chiropractors the other day. He wanted to know what I thought of them. I told him I had no real opinion because I have neve been one. I have heard great things and I have heard bad things.

One friend injured his back moving furniture and went to a chiropractor. Six weeks later he like a new man.

Had another guy who drove a semi delivering and setting up Coke. He woke up one morning and his lower back was hurting him. So he went to a chiropractor and after 7 weeks of not getting better he asked the chiropractor if he should see a regular MD. Chiropractor told him no it would take time for his back to heal. Well four weeks with no real relief he went to an MD. To make a long story short, he was diagnosed with colon cancer. They did chemo/radition (cannot remember) but to no avail he died 2 months later.

Thoughts?

 

[Crusty]

I don't see how your anecdote about the truck driver has anything to do with them being quacks. If you are in pain, you need to go see a MEDICAL DOCTOR. It's not the chiropractors fault he couldn't tell the truck driver he had colon cancer.

 

[Crono]

My opinion is that there are a few practicioners that know a little about some things, but the field as a whole is mostly junk, and can be dangerous because it's not a science-based field of medicine.

 

[mcveigh]

oh shit here we go again.

 

[PepePeru]

Same as you

Never been to one.

I have a friend who is married to the daughter of a chiropractor and apparently quite wealthy from it, claims that they are miracle workers and basically shouted me down when i suggested otherwise.

Then I have my father who's had 8 back surgeries who's never seen any benefit from a chiropractor.

I'm more inclined to believe my father.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Originally posted by: Crusty
I don't see how your anecdote about the truck driver has anything to do with them being quacks. If you are in pain, you need to go see a MEDICAL DOCTOR. It's not the chiropractors fault he couldn't tell the truck driver he had colon cancer.

but it was the chiropractor that advised him not to see a medical doctor and stick with his services.

 

[jonks]

My best friend spent 2 years at chriopractic school before dropping out. He thought his professors were nuts and he calls the whole field quacks.

I went to one a couple times as a kid, and it was fun and felt good having your back cracked. But claiming that "aligning the spine" will prevent disease and illness is just unsupported bunk, and seeing a chiropractor exclusive of MDs is stoopid.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Crono
My opinion is that there are a few practicioners that know a little about some things, but the field as a whole is mostly junk, and can be dangerous because it's not a science-based field of medicine.

What? Chiropractic is based on science. Perhaps you're thinking of something more like Homeopathy/

I look at Chiropractors as more advanced physical therapists. They can often help you a lot, but only to the degree your body is capable of being restored to.

 

[alyarb]

i dont need a degree to buy a massage, sit in the hot tub and take drugs.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Crono
My opinion is that there are a few practicioners that know a little about some things, but the field as a whole is mostly junk, and can be dangerous because it's not a science-based field of medicine.

What? Chiropractic is based on science. Perhaps you're thinking of something more like Homeopathy/

I look at Chiropractors as more advanced physical therapists. They can often help you a lot, but only to the degree your body is capable of being restored to.

Just quoting this. And bolding the parts I like. Take it as you will.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu

Originally posted by: Crusty
I don't see how your anecdote about the truck driver has anything to do with them being quacks. If you are in pain, you need to go see a MEDICAL DOCTOR. It's not the chiropractors fault he couldn't tell the truck driver he had colon cancer.

but it was the chiropractor that advised him not to see a medical doctor and stick with his services.

So? If you were in pain and someone couldn't help you after 1 or 2 visits you need to get a second opinion. It's not the chiropractors fault the dude didn't want to see a real doctor.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Crono
My opinion is that there are a few practicioners that know a little about some things, but the field as a whole is mostly junk, and can be dangerous because it's not a science-based field of medicine.

What? Chiropractic is based on science. Perhaps you're thinking of something more like Homeopathy/

I look at Chiropractors as more advanced physical therapists. They can often help you a lot, but only to the degree your body is capable of being restored to.

Same. Many chiropractors treat their work like advanced PT, but some do go to the old chiropractic field claims of basically advanced homeopathy, what with the sublimation (?) and whatnot.

There is one here around Columbus that I've been thinking of going to, because he was/is also a physical therapist, having worked (still works? cannot remember) with a few OSU sports programs as their actual physical therapist. So I'd reckon he's most likely the type that uses chiropractic care as advanced PT. Some day, whenever I find out if physical therapy is covered in my mom's insurance, I'll have to make a trip to his office and see if I can get some straight talk from him.

 

[Gothgar]

I know we have a few Chiro's around here... I think it is mostly BS

 

[Crono]

I can see how the physical therapy aspects of chiropractic can actually work, but I don't see how chiropractic is more "advanced", nor do I see the need for it as a separate field. Aren't the confirmed methods and treatments already integrated into mainstream medicine?

 

[KeithTalent]

Paging eits!

Never been to a chiropractor myself, but then I've never needed one. I've been to physiotherapy and it was extremely helpful.

KT

 

[CRXican]

we've already had this discussion at least twice

 

[MetalMat]

There are different types, the real ones are pretty much just doctors that are specialized in the spine.

The quack ones believe in Vertebral Sublaxtion and the fact that misalligned vertebral joints do not allow for the body to heal itself. They often make un-proven claims that they can cure anything from the common cold to cancer by some spinal manipluation.

And then there is a mixture of both. While I personally think most of it is hogwash it sure does feel good.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

I agree that they can do good work on the physical therapist level.

...that said, my dad went to one and I saw him doing stuff with a piece of a geode 3" away from my dad's neck that made me go "wtf?" So there's good and bad to be had. No, it won't be a cure all. Sure, it can provide relief for things such as pinched nerves. Yes, you need to take a look around the office to see if there's anything that sounds like a duck.

 

[funkymatt]

went to one once. dude put his fingers in my mouth and charged me an axtra $50 for setup of paperwork. i have not been back to any chiropractor, although my wife and her mom say they're the best ever.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
oh shit here we go again.

 

[Alone]

Surprised eits hasn't posted yet.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Crusty
I don't see how your anecdote about the truck driver has anything to do with them being quacks. If you are in pain, you need to go see a MEDICAL DOCTOR. It's not the chiropractors fault he couldn't tell the truck driver he had colon cancer.

Seriously.

On that note, as a alternative to pain medications I think back crackers are great. Most meds do nothing but mask the pain while healing maybe takes place. Readjusting can theoretically help the healing process.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: CRXican
we've already had this discussion at least twice

I must have missed it then

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Crono
I can see how the physical therapy aspects of chiropractic can actually work, but I don't see how chiropractic is more "advanced", nor do I see the need for it as a separate field. Aren't the confirmed methods and treatments already integrated into mainstream medicine?

mainstream medicine uses medicine to treat problems. Doctors will not be hands on with a patient trying to correct pain.

Physical therapy for reducing pain tends to focus on muscle groups, using exercise and stretching techniques to manage muscle issues, such as pressure against nerves or joints.

Chiropractic tends to use a combination of physical therapy techniques along with more physical manipulation that is supposed to help with joint alignment. That type of technique is not something that licensed physical therapists do, as they are not taught it and is not a part of PT's field, if you will. A physical therapist will not use techniques that are basically not covered by their certificate/license.

 

[MyThirdEye]

eits is a chiropractor, and has answered some questions i have asked in the past. i go to the chiro quite a bit, and it always ends up working for me.