China's Sichuan earthquake triggered by a Nuclear Explosion

[Socio]

Nuclear Explosion Occurred Near Epicenter of the Sichuan Earthquake, Expert Says

Boxun News, a Chinese-language Web site based outside China, reported that an unnamed expert has claimed that there was a nuclear explosion near the epicenter of the Sichuan earthquake, based on witness reports and the discovery of concrete rubble believed to have come from an underground military installation. The news of this nuclear explosion has raised questions about the cause of the earthquake.

Mr. He, a local resident, stated that when the earthquake occurred on May 12, people saw something erupt from the top of a mountain next to the valley, "It looked like toothpaste being squeezed out," said He. "No, it wasn't [magma]. It was these concrete pieces. The eruption lasted about three minutes."

According to a China News Services (CNS) report on May 31, 2008, paramedics from People's Liberation Army (PLA) hospitals and psychologists from Beijing onsite May 23 found concrete debris at the bottom of a valley near the epicenter. The half-mile-wide valley was covered with debris 10 - 20 inches thick, covering the valley floor for almost 1.5 miles.

If this is true and they did something like detonate a nuke underground which triggered the earthquake then it would make the Sichuan earthquake the biggest nuclear disaster in history. It would also make China's nuclear scientists either pretty freaking stupid for doing a test with out testing the areas stability for such a test or mass murderers on an epic scale if they knew the area was unstable and did it anyway!

 

[sierrita]

Oh, for the love of GOD!

You cannot start an Earthquake with a bomb.

 

[sandorski]

hehe, ok.

 

[blackangst1]

How couldnt a nuke cause plates to shift?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: sierrita
Oh, for the love of GOD!

You cannot start an Earthquake with a bomb.

Pssh, just try telling that to Lex Luthor.

 

[Kadarin]

Mr. He, a local resident, stated that when the earthquake occurred on May 12, people saw something erupt from the top of a mountain next to the valley, "It looked like toothpaste being squeezed out," said He. "No, it wasn't [magma]. It was these concrete pieces. The eruption lasted about three minutes."

Mr. He sounds like a credible source. I'd believe him in a heartbeat.

 

[blackangst1]

dont we have some kind of ...erm...sniffer or something to detect nuclear activity or something?

 

[Lemon law]

The UN NAMED expert is the first clue this thread is bogus. But in theory, a underground nuclear explosion could trigger an earthquake that would have happened anyway
be in just days or weeks later. Sierreta is a 100% correct, a bomb can't cause an earthquake, at best it could just jar the earth enough to cause it to happen a little sooner than it would have otherwise.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: sierrita
Oh, for the love of GOD!

You cannot start an Earthquake with a bomb.

But you CAN stop one

 

[Moonbeam]

The 89 quake here in San Francisco was caused by me swatting a fly.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Nuclear weapons tested underground produce a unique seismic "footprint", I'm sure all the seismic stations around the world would have noticed that by now, and reported it to the media.

 

[preslove]

Boxun News, a Chinese-language Web site based outside China, reported that an unnamed expert has claimed that there was a nuclear explosion near the epicenter of the Sichuan earthquake, based on witness reports and the discovery of concrete rubble believed to have come from an underground military installation. The news of this nuclear explosion has raised questions about the cause of the earthquake.

...

hoax

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
How couldnt a nuke cause plates to shift?

A lot of things could have occurred, if they tested to close to the surface it would cause the ground to shake for miles. Have you ever seen the old videos where like from the 50?s where they detonate an atomic bomb from deep in the ground and the ground bulges up and send out a huge ground ripple, and was felt miles away those were minor compared to Nukes of today.

Also If there was a dried up underground lake in the area or a huge underground pocket or pockets left by pumped out oil etc.. An underground nuclear explosion could have easily caused them to collapse or cave in causing massive land shifts toppling buildings. Who knows what happened and I doubt we will ever know.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Nuclear weapons tested underground produce a unique seismic "footprint", I'm sure all the seismic stations around the world would have noticed that by now, and reported it to the media.

What if it was "clean" nuke, much like the Tsar bomb that Russia tested in the 60's or something entirely new they are experimenting with?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: blackangst1
How couldnt a nuke cause plates to shift?

A lot of things could have occurred, if they tested to close to the surface it would cause the ground to shake for miles. Have you ever seen the old videos where like from the 50?s where they detonate an atomic bomb from deep in the ground and the ground bulges up and send out a huge ground ripple, and was felt miles away those were minor compared to Nukes of today.

Also If there was a dried up underground lake in the area or a huge underground pocket or pockets left by pumped out oil etc.. An underground nuclear explosion could have easily caused them to collapse or cave in causing massive land shifts toppling buildings. Who knows what happened and I doubt we will ever know.

Ha!

That's a load of donuts, and you should've know better than to suggest otherwise.

:roll:

 

[lupi]

Even china isn't closed off enough to have a nuke go off and the first to be heard about it is from an unamed source a couple weeks later.

 

[XZeroII]

It was probably some new superweapon that China has developed.

 

[Brovane]

A nuclear weapon doesn't have the energy to cause a fault line to move that would then cause a earthquake. A nuclear weapon can cause localized shaking. For example the 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake released 9,000+ Gigatons of TNT equivalent energy. Also as already pointed out earlier a nuclear weapon detonation causes a distinct seismic pattern that is different than a Earthquake seismic pattern.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4we...iI&feature=related

Skip to 6:10.

Long story short, they use Nukes to separate a land mass that is being pulled into the crust from the plate that supports Japan. I love this movie.

While it may not cause earthquakes, Nukes can evidently destroy enough rock to cause a separation in the crust.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Nuclear weapons tested underground produce a unique seismic "footprint", I'm sure all the seismic stations around the world would have noticed that by now, and reported it to the media.

What if it was "clean" nuke, much like the Tsar bomb that Russia tested in the 60's or something entirely new they are experimenting with?

ummmm about the tsar bomb...
"The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the Earth. Its Richter magnitude was about 5 to 5.25."

So much for that idea.

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: sierrita
Oh, for the love of GOD!

You cannot start an Earthquake with a bomb.

I wouldn't go that far. Because it hasn't been done yet doesn't mean it can't be done. If you take a large enough bomb (nuke or otherwise) in the right location, I'm sure it is possible to trigger a quake. I just don't know what that thresh hold is. And it may take multple blasts along a fault to start one. Just don't say can't because someone somewhere will find a way to do it.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: blackangst1
How couldnt a nuke cause plates to shift?

A lot of things could have occurred, if they tested to close to the surface it would cause the ground to shake for miles. Have you ever seen the old videos where like from the 50?s where they detonate an atomic bomb from deep in the ground and the ground bulges up and send out a huge ground ripple, and was felt miles away those were minor compared to Nukes of today.

Also If there was a dried up underground lake in the area or a huge underground pocket or pockets left by pumped out oil etc.. An underground nuclear explosion could have easily caused them to collapse or cave in causing massive land shifts toppling buildings. Who knows what happened and I doubt we will ever know.

I want some of what you are smoking....

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: sierrita
Oh, for the love of GOD!

You cannot start an Earthquake with a bomb.

True, but you can stop asteroids with them.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Nuclear weapons tested underground produce a unique seismic "footprint", I'm sure all the seismic stations around the world would have noticed that by now, and reported it to the media.

What if it was "clean" nuke, much like the Tsar bomb that Russia tested in the 60's or something entirely new they are experimenting with?

A nuclear explosion is a nuclear explosion, there is no way to mask the well known seismic characteristics of a ground level or underground detonation. The weapon's composition has almost nothing to do with it as all different kinds achieve the same result (super-criticality).

It was an earthquake.

 

[ericlp]

anyone ever recall the story that they were doing some sort of imaging for oil ... or something like that... anyway, they think the blasts could have triggered the earthquake title wave in Thailand....

Anyway. The point is... It was a hoax as well... But just like a small clap of sound can trigger an avalanche... I'm sure even a large truck rolling over a fault when the time is right could trigger an earth quake ... Not that it really matters because it would have happened sooner or later any way.