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China Tried to Influence 1996 Elections, Intelligence Committee Finds

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Texmaster

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This is for all the Liberals who whined in disbelief that their little buddy Billy Bubba had anything to do with Illegal campaign contributions from China.

Well guess what boys and girls, he DID.

Democrat fund-raiser Johnny Chung, a prominent figure in a 1996 campaign finance scandal, has admitted helping to move $300,000 from a high-ranking Chinese military officer to Bill Clinton's presidential re-election campaign.

Intelligence information showed that the intermediary between Chung and the Chinese officer was Liu Chao-ying, the daughter of Gen. Liu Hua-qing, formerly the top military official in China, the Senate Intelligence Committee report said.

Chung was sentenced in December 1998 to probation after pleading guilty to bank fraud, tax evasion and making illegal contributions to the campaign.


And of course, the national media made no mention of it:

Most major news media ignored the bombshell development. A search of Web sites between 8 and 9 p.m. EDT Friday found no mention of the Senate panel's report by CNN, CBS, ABC, Fox News, MSNBC and the Washington Post. The Associated Press finally filed a report at 8:46 p.m. The New York Times, supposedly containing "All the news that's fit to print," instead prominently featured a puff piece headlined "Chinese President Expresses Optimism on Relations With U.S."

``China was running a covert action against us,'' said Steven Aftergood, a director at the Federation of American Scientists, which posted the committee report on its Web site. "That's certainly a startling finding.''


You can't call it a conspiracy theory anymore.

China's influence
China and its influence
 
I promise that the following opinion is not me crapping on your thread. I'm just resigned to the fact that nobody really cares what Bubba did while he was in office. So he broke the law... so what? Until someone gets some cajones and decides to indict him, I have to say that this is a non-story. Why??? Because at this point everybody figures that anything said about Bubba is probably true. Nobody is really surprised about anything that came out of the White House during his eight years, regardless of how illegal it might be.

Now if someone would act on investigations like this and slap his butt in jail (or at least go through trial proceedings), you might reestablish my faith in the government. Until then, I am pretty much convinced that the rich and powerful in this country are immune to the law.

And in my opinion, Bubba won't have to worry about being held accountable for his actions, ever.
 


<< I promise that the following opinion is not me crapping on your thread. I'm just resigned to the fact that nobody really cares what Bubba did while he was in office. So he broke the law... so what? Until someone gets some cajones and decides to indict him, I have to say that this is a non-story. Why??? Because at this point everybody figures that anything said about Bubba is probably true. Nobody is really surprised about anything that came out of the White House during his eight years, regardless of how illegal it might be.

Now if someone would act on investigations like this and slap his butt in jail (or at least go through trial proceedings), you might reestablish my faith in the government. Until then, I am pretty much convinced that the rich and powerful in this country are immune to the law.

And in my opinion, Bubba won't have to worry about being held accountable for his actions, ever. >>



Agreed. No one really cares, but they should.
 


<< Assmaster and Nuclear Ned are just another example of a couple Right Wing Conspiracy Chicken Littles who have decided to honors us here at ATOT with their Wild Eyed Rants. >>



Still posting these well thought out and informed posts I see Dawn.

God forbid you actually once address the issue being presented.
 


<< Assmaster

<< God forbid you actually once address the issue being presented. >>

Actually the issue at hand is much larger than the issue being presented. The issue at hand is that all your posts are Hysterical Limbuaghistic Propaganda. Why not just post a link to the Gasbag's website so all your fellow Dittoheads and Rubes cans just log on there so you don't have to waste bandwidth on Anand's Servers >>



I gave you two links brainiac. Try reading more.

And if the issue is bigger than you say. ENLIGHTEN US! I would LOVE to see you once post anything that wasn't a personal attack.

I'm giving you the chance here, don't waste it.
 
Wow, that's harsh Red Dawn. This is the off topic forum, after all. If the managers at Anandtech didn't want this type of discussion why would they create this section? And my bigger question is that if it annoys you so much, why not read another section of the forum? Someone finds it interesting, so they posted it here. If it's really that uninteresting and detrimental to the quality of Anandtech then nobody will respond to it and it will fall to the bottom of the threadlist. Just let Anand-darwinism take it's course.
 
i'm not sure i see why this is such a big deal...

are we to infer that the democrats are trying to turn our nation communist? lol... i don't see any harm done by it.

and i don't trust the first link you gave out, looking at the site, it looks a little biased. 🙂
 


<< i'm not sure i see why this is such a big deal...

are we to infer that the democrats are trying to turn our nation communist? lol... i don't see any harm done by it.

and i don't trust the first link you gave out, looking at the site, it looks a little biased. 🙂 >>




You dont see the harm? Are you kidding?

In less than 2 years during the Clinton presidency the Chinese LEAPED ahead 30 years in missile technology giving them the power to strike US cities with nuclear warheads.

We know now that Clinton's campaign received DIRECT contributions from high ranking officials in China. And we know that shortly after, China obtained the advanced missile technology.

This isn't hard to put together.

So you don't like the first site therefore you dismiss the article? Please give me some kind of reason as to why besides your own opinion!

And what about the second site? Will you dismiss that as well?
 


<<

<< and i don't trust the first link you gave out, looking at the site, it looks a little biased. >>

So is the Second Site. In fact it's the Republican version of Pravda. >>




Now prove the information in the articles False you Troll


Back up your beliefs with facts you gutless coward.
 
In less than 2 years during the Clinton presidency the Chinese LEAPED ahead 30 years in missile technology giving them the power to strike US cities with nuclear warheads.

We know now that Clinton's campaign received DIRECT contributions from high ranking officials in China. And we know that shortly after, China obtained the advanced missile technology.

if i'm not mistaken, countries are permitted to share technology with other countries...?

So you don't like the first site therefore you dismiss the article? Please give me some kind of reason as to why besides your own opinion!

dude, look at the stories there. it's plain to see there's a conservative bias. i don't trust anything that comes off as that biased... doesn't matter what side it's on. objectivity people...

And what about the second site? Will you dismiss that as well?

hey i'm not saying you're wrong... calm down already... yeesh. i just don't see what the big deal is. do you really think we're going to get attacked by china? lol...
 


<< if i'm not mistaken, countries are permitted to share technology with other countries...? >>



Not classified missile technolgy. And certainly not as a replayment for a campaign contribution.



<< dude, look at the stories there. it's plain to see there's a conservative bias. i don't trust anything that comes off as that biased... doesn't matter what side it's on. objectivity people... >>



Then prove it wrong. If you are so sure the bias influences the facts, prove it wrong.



<< hey i'm not saying you're wrong... calm down already... yeesh. i just don't see what the big deal is. do you really think we're going to get attacked by china? lol... >>



I'm as calm as they come. But if you are going to attack an article based on where it came from than the facts it presents, I'm going to call you on it. So, I'm still waiting for your evidence that the bias you see effects the content.

Please Enlighten me.
 


<< Assmaster

<< Back up your beliefs with facts you gutless coward. >>

Leave it to some dink from Texas to call me a gutless coward from the Anonymity of his keyboard. In fact I see you call others gutless cowards from the safety of your keyboard. Typical Ratpublican, talking tough when he knows he doesn't have to account personally for his false bravado. Your dentist would be able to buy a new car if you actually had to account for your &quot;Tough Guy&quot; words. It's amazing how many of you Shut Ins act tough when in fact you are nothing but some wimp stuck inside a bubble. >>



LOL I knew you wouldn't. Typical Red Dawn Trollage.
 
Red Dawn,

If you want to sway my opinion, you are going to have to produce an argument with facts/links/etc. So far all you have done is make yourself look like a TROLL with all your name calling and personal attacks. TSK TSK. And you liberals are the ones who think of yourselves as tolerant of other viewpoints.

Present a logical argument (which you can back up with sources) and I'll listen to you.

Until then, go away.
 


<< if i'm not mistaken, countries are permitted to share technology with other countries...? >>

As &quot;friendly&quot; as we are with china, they're the closest thing we've got to an enemy that could defeat us right now. Think of it as someone from the Dolphins selling their playbook to the 49ers. You don't want the other team to know what you're doing, because if they do, it makes it harder to win...
 
Not classified missile technolgy. And certainly not as a replayment for a campaign contribution.

i dunno, i just don't care, i don't see it as a problem. so they share the wealth, big deal.

Then prove it wrong. If you are so sure the bias influences the facts, prove it wrong.

it's not a matter of being right or wrong, it's a matter of being selective in what they report.

I'm as calm as they come.

uh... no.

But if you are going to attack an article based on where it came from than the facts it presents, I'm going to call you on it. So, I'm still waiting for your evidence that the bias you see effects the content.

nobody's attacking anything, i'm just saying i don't trust it. and i don't think any objective individual would either, just look at the headlines. it's all conservative propoganda. whether or not it is true is another issue, the fact is, they are not an objective source of information, no matter how you slice it. i'm sorry if i like my news a little less biased.

 


<<

<< if i'm not mistaken, countries are permitted to share technology with other countries...? >>

As &quot;friendly&quot; as we are with china, they're the closest thing we've got to an enemy that could defeat us right now. Think of it as someone from the Dolphins selling their playbook to the 49ers. You don't want the other team to know what you're doing, because if they do, it makes it harder to win... >>



In that case I would support the sale if the 49ers were selling their playbook 😀
 
As &quot;friendly&quot; as we are with china, they're the closest thing we've got to an enemy that could defeat us right now. Think of it as someone from the Dolphins selling their playbook to the 49ers. You don't want the other team to know what you're doing, because if they do, it makes it harder to win...

that's what i was getting at... win what? we're not trying to destroy other countries.
 
Red Dawn, it seems to me that you're nothing but a troll. Texmaster offered a vaild point of discussion, to which you proceded to dismiss as &quot;Right Wing Conspiracy Chicken Littles.&quot; Have you actually read the articles? And how exactly is this a &quot;Wild Eyed Rants&quot; ?

Your few arguments simply sum up to the usual &quot;Bush and republicans suck.&quot;

Oh, and naming others &quot;Klansmen&quot; won't get you anywhere either--it's like I calling you a neohippie.

That is all.

worth.
 
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