China 'disappears' a prominent actress. Why do we put up with this again?

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1prophet

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China 'disappears' a prominent actress. Why do we put up with this again?

because corporate America needs its profits while Americans shop for cheap Chinese products in order to make ends meet in the race to the bottom where "cheaper is better" is the winning strategy.

If South Africa was in the same economic position as China you would be putting up with Apartheid for profits sake while paying lip service to human rights.
 

WelshBloke

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If South Africa was in the same economic position as China you would be putting up with Apartheid for profits sake while paying lip service to human rights.

We put up with Apartheid fine, it was the South Africans (to their credit) that ended it.
 

SlowSpyder

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China 'disappears' a prominent actress. Why do we put up with this again?

because corporate America needs its profits while Americans shop for cheap Chinese products in order to make ends meet in the race to the bottom where "cheaper is better" is the winning strategy.

If South Africa was in the same economic position as China you would be putting up with Apartheid for profits sake while paying lip service to human rights.


So in a way Trump's tariff's have a positive moral side effect in a way. Go Trump!
 

woolfe9998

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You cheat the IRS, you gonna get knocked. No different in China.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you cheat on taxes here and happen to get caught, you're going to get due process, and not simply be disappeared.

Another lame attempt at false equivalency.
 

realibrad

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Please explain how trade tariffs are going to stop China holding an actress for tax issues?

If money equals power, and the tariffs reduce the income of China (and the US), then you are taking away their ability even if only slightly, to do as much damage than if they had more money.
 

WelshBloke

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If money equals power, and the tariffs reduce the income of China (and the US), then you are taking away their ability even if only slightly, to do as much damage than if they had more money.
I'm still not seeing the link with the way they treat their citizens. It's not like they were treated better when China was poor, if anything they were treated worse.
 

woolfe9998

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If money equals power, and the tariffs reduce the income of China (and the US), then you are taking away their ability even if only slightly, to do as much damage than if they had more money.

That's pretty lame. Poor nations can and often do disappear their citizens without due process. While wealthier nations are actually less likely to do so. Pretty sure China was if anything more repressive under Mao, long before they became such a huge economic power. Damaging their economy would if anything make them worse, not better. Especially in regard to something like tax evasion or anything else which would deprive the state of its shrinking money supply.

None of this is even to speak of the damage it's going to do to our own economy, which is another matter entirely.
 

realibrad

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I'm still not seeing the link with the way they treat their citizens. It's not like they were treated better when China was poor, if anything they were treated worse.

When you have less ability, you would expect less. Its far more complicated, but, that is the reasoning.
 

realibrad

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That's pretty lame. Poor nations can and often do disappear their citizens without due process. While wealthier nations are actually less likely to do so. Pretty sure China was if anything more repressive under Mao, long before they became such a huge economic power. Damaging their economy would if anything make them worse, not better. Especially in regard to something like tax evasion or anything else which would deprive the state of its shrinking money supply.

None of this is even to speak of the damage it's going to do to our own economy, which is another matter entirely.

To some extent it is true that if you take away power and ability, in the long run you could expect less. The problem is that the situation is so complex, that its not so simple. An unstable China would cause more issues. So, taking away the power of the current central government would mean less action by that government. But, its also true that being unstable causes a power vacuum that often leads to more issues. Its ultimately an issue of measurement.