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akugami

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To everyone bashing the Chinese over their communist country. You know almost nothing of the situation. The people in China DO NOT like the way the government works but they are powerless to do anything about it. There is a saying in China, out of 100 government workers, 101 of them are corrupt. I'm not saying a lot of what business and government in China is doing is right. It's downright wrong. Copyright infringement, piracy, polluting the environment. However, understand that the vast majority of the people inside China are just trying to make a living. When you're poor and trying to support your family, you don't care if the company you're working for uses technology that doesn't belong to them and isn't licensed or that you're making counterfeit products.

If you want to blame someone for how China has turned out, lay the blame where it rightfully belongs. Western culture and a weak emporer (and corrupt leadership) in China. The opium wars. Basically Europe pushing dope on China and going to war to continue doing so. European countries carving out pieces of China for themselves. Selling the Chinese as slaves. The US railroad companies should thank all the Chinese indentured servants, many of which died. Many other events such as weak leadership, backstabbing and greed further chipped away at the empire. The eventual toppling of a weak emporer and later the rise of communism.
 

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Originally posted by: akugami
To everyone bashing the Chinese over their communist country. You know almost nothing of the situation. The people in China DO NOT like the way the government works but they are powerless to do anything about it. There is a saying in China, out of 100 government workers, 101 of them are corrupt. I'm not saying a lot of what business and government in China is doing is right. It's downright wrong. Copyright infringement, piracy, polluting the environment. However, understand that the vast majority of the people inside China are just trying to make a living. When you're poor and trying to support your family, you don't care if the company you're working for uses technology that doesn't belong to them and isn't licensed or that you're making counterfeit products.

If you want to blame someone for how China has turned out, lay the blame where it rightfully belongs. Western culture and a weak emporer (and corrupt leadership) in China. The opium wars. Basically Europe pushing dope on China and going to war to continue doing so. European countries carving out pieces of China for themselves. Selling the Chinese as slaves. The US railroad companies should thank all the Chinese indentured servants, many of which died. Many other events such as weak leadership, backstabbing and greed further chipped away at the empire. The eventual toppling of a weak emporer and later the rise of communism.

Yeah you really can't fully blame China when the western world was so instrumental in the development of their recent history.
 

DrMrLordX

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This is not a political forum for political discussion, so please let us not make too many remarks regarding the state of Chinese politics.

I was merely stating that China's is not likely to "take over" the CPU market anytime soon.

You can say that China is not the #1 polluter now, but, at their current rate, they will be in the near future. Also, you can claim that human slave/prison labor is cheaper than automation, but this will not be true in the future(and, in some cases, is not true in the present). The machines always win in the end. Devices designed for a specific set of tasks that operate 24/7 are better.

I do not have anything against China or its people. In fact, I feel sorry for their citizenry. The bottom will fall out from their booming economy, and when it does, it will not be pretty.
 

keichan82

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Originally posted by: Duvie
China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

Oh.. so we all thieves.. China steal idea.. America steals land.. heck who thought of the wheel.. crap I stole that idea too..

damn.. everyone steals, copy, etc.. thats how we get better things.. they work with what they have and improve it..

Microsoft got their idea form Macintosh..

calling all chinese people thieves?? thats going a little too far...
 

akugami

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DrMrLordX, I know, not everyone is a racist and I'm not even trying to imply such. I read your first post in this thread and there was absolutely nothing racist in it. I actually agree with all of your points. Then you have someone like NokiaDude and what he wrote which contributed nothing to this thread but harsh feelings on my part and others of Chinese decent. I'm not and almost never will defend China's communist government but I will defend the Chinese people. I live in the USA and haven't set foot in China in over 15 years but that doesn't mean I like it when people start stereotyping Chinese people and calling them thieves and the like.

You have people calling China thieves and yet no one knows or even acknowldeges some of the great inventions they've contributed to the world such as paper, gunpowder, the decimal system and many others.
http://www.askasia.org/frclasrm/lessplan/l000019.htm

Sorry for the rant but I feel strongly when the Chinese people as a whole are being stereotyped as thieves.
 
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China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

And USA is a country of ignorant profit horny idiots then?

/David
 

bradley

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Originally posted by: pinkfloydhomer
Patens laws are immoral and ridiculous anyway. Designed to strengthen the strong and weaken the weak.

/David

The strong often have better ideas though. ;) And there's a stark contrast between stealing the elements of a concept or idea vs. blatantly reverse engineering an entire piece of hardware/software... at least in my mind.
 

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Originally posted by: keichan82
Originally posted by: Duvie
China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

Oh.. so we all thieves.. China steal idea.. America steals land.. heck who thought of the wheel.. crap I stole that idea too..

damn.. everyone steals, copy, etc.. thats how we get better things.. they work with what they have and improve it..

Microsoft got their idea form Macintosh..

calling all chinese people thieves?? thats going a little too far...



Who cares....

let see...they are the largest market for counterfeit market ripping off billions from legit companies...they are more of a threat to the movie industry then the average joe making a copy of a DVd he rents from Netflix or blockbuster. They usually tend to place counterfeits on the market before they are even in the movie theaters in the US....

Then we have industrial sabotage where they are quickly becoming the leaders there as well...they are quickly (internet cafes) becoming the home of the most DNS attacks against companies, propogating virus and spyware attacks on average consumers...between Russias crime syndicates and the corrupt in china they account for a majority of theft attacks on companies of credit card numbers.....

I view the chinese for what they will become. As the last remaining sanctuary for communism and a totalitarism government with the military and nuke capacity I see them as a potential threat to the world and the US...they are the enemy as far as I am concerned. The average chinese person is probably a good working person but living blind in a society filled with propaganda I dont trust they will do the right thing.

They are trying to bully the Taiwanese ppl with serious threats now.

Mainly everything above I believe the government controls directly or has their hands in the pockets of.....If china was a democracy I would not fear them, but as one of the evil empires (I added them to Bushs short list) I would guard my technology and secrets well against them.

To the moron above...It is Racist not raciest...I am not racist. I am a nationalist, pro-democracy, anti-communist...I have chinese friends and trust me none of them wish to live there and believe the chinese government is a threat as I have stated. They may be smarter then the Russians caused they learned a closed economic society such as The soviet Bloc had was part of its demise. The Chinese will use the investement and technology to duplicate and the great monetary wealth of being eventually the economic superpower to propagate its war machine...then one day...You can imagine the next.
 

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Ya they learned alright, instead they just use slave labor of thier peoples while the rich all have connections to the "party" which is corrupt to the core using police powers to enforce totalitarism.. I don't see many chineese wanting to go back. I know a bunch in the engineering feild. Fat and happy Americans they are now. You need balance in gov which only comes though democracy, a mertirtocracy, and certain god given freedoms which makes America great and china suck.

EDIT: As a side note I love how those fools buy all our debt. They can't afford not to have the trade or thier peoples will go riot, but when they get too uppity we'll nationlize all those tbills, all thier stock in NYSE, and send them back too stone age. They playing two move chess on a four move game.
 

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I know they "counterfeit market ripping off billions from legit companies" but most of them have no choice. No job, no money, they starve. Wouldn't you do the same if it meant putting food on the table for your family?
I am not saying that what they do is right, and its not, but no need to categorize all Chinese ppl as "thieves"

"I view the chinese for what they will become" please dont assume

"The average chinese person is probably a good working person but living blind in a society filled with propaganda I dont trust they will do the right thing." I don't either, but I can understand that they have no choice, they fear fot their lives.

"They are trying to bully the Taiwanese ppl with serious threats now." It was once theirs, they just wont it back. I'm not saying its right, but I can understand why they doing it.

"If china was a democracy" most of the so called "thieves" wish that too.
You are lucky enough to live in the USA, most the Chinese ppl in China can only dream of that.. now can you stop steping on ppl when they are already down?

"To the moron above...It is Racist not raciest" sorry im not perfect

"I am a nationalist, pro-democracy, anti-communist...I have chinese friends and trust me none of them wish to live there and believe the chinese government is a threat as I have stated. " Yeah, I dont want to live their either, I am lucky enough to have a choice.

"The Chinese will use the investement and technology to duplicate and the great monetary wealth of being eventually the economic superpower to propagate its war machine...then one day...You can imagine the next. " Again please dont assume and based your views on that.

"You need balance in gov which only comes though democracy, a mertirtocracy, and certain god given freedoms which makes America great and china suck. "
Agreed, but is not the citizens fault. If only they had a choice...
 

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i think many of the people here who have commented don't know what "China" is...

or, perhaps...i just have a strange definition. bear with me, for a little bit; i'm not trying to change what people believe in... just listen, and maybe walk away with something new...

i suppose, in the modern world, china has been defined as a country. and included within that definition is the people who live there, the culture, their economy (and how it affects the rest of the world), and perhaps most importantly... its government.

i, however, have always held the meaning of china very differently. consider that there are over 60 different races in china. in the history of china, there have been several dozen dynasties (though some of them are hard to separate fact from myth). each dynasty (more or less) have always fought and held the central lands of china, as it has always been the cultural center of the east. as people mix, it becomes hard to distinguish the boundaries between many of these races, and they eventuallly get swallowed up by the "han" people...

then, the europeans (with their love of categorizing and classifying) came and grouped all of the people together under a simple term..."chinese"

i suppose, what i'm trying to say...is that the western world has labelled "china" as a country, with a culture, with a people. not to say that the classification was poorly done; but rather it didn't quite fit perfectly. just like it is impossible to wholly translate some words in english to a different language. to me (and many chinese), however...what flag we hang, and what tongue we speak has always been something fickle. our culture and our way of thinking has learned to adapt to the instability that has always been a part of that piece of land. i am chinese, although i was not born there; nor have i ever stepped foot on the soil. i know little of their history; i barely speak the language, and i cannot read or write in chinese.

to me, i suppose, china isn't a place...its not a country, and it is certainly not a government. these things have been so inconsistent that they don't provide a very good description of "chinese." how does merely 90 years of communism define china over the last 3000 years of its history? instead, i define it as a tragic story about a tragic people... it is the millions of people that have fled their homes, forced to start a new life elsewhere; and the billions of people who could not flee... and live a despondent life within a corrupt government (whether it be the communists of today, or the emperors of the past). chinese is whoever looks in their history and can tell a similar tragedy... and china is the bond that relates us together, whether we like it or not...

the communist today in china will someday be gone... much as any of the other powerful dynasties that have ruled in china. the damage they cause is lamentable, yet we will all persevere...

hmm...sorry, perhaps i got a little mystical there... but, to address some of the topics earlier...

no, china cannot continue at the rate that they are expanding for very long. as with any undeveloped country, you start with very cheap labor (african slaves in the americas) and you build a cheap manual labor work force. you start with destroying your natural resources around you, and exhausting the environment (coal mines, deforestation, fossil fuels)... you start with little civil rights to the people and much corruption in your government.

...and, as your people beome more educated, and move away from low class into the middle class... they start complaining. as enough people rise, you hope that you strike a deal with the government and you solve things via reform (reformation, civil rights, women's suffrage, so much can be listed here)...

the country grows up in steps. the people cannot suddenly change from poor uneducated farmers (this was the results of mao's cultural revolution) to educated and world/political savy intellectuals in only one or two generations. but, china is making progress; and someday, the people of china will overthrow the communist government as they once did the ching.

as far as stealing, again those are concepts of the west. the west cannot comprehend how it can be moral to take someone else's hard work, and simply copy it without following the rules set by the USPTO; JUST AS the people in china simply cannot comprehend why they have to give someone halfway around the world money in order to watch a movie~ especially when no one else around them does. it is again, a difference in the culture so wide that it cannot be bridged in a short matter of time. certainly, there are sly individuals/businessmen in china who may "hide" behind this excuse; but i think it goes a bit far to say that china is a country of a billion thieves.

i think a growing china could be a good thing. it means the people of china will continue to advance economically, which promotes further education and more exposure to the western world. it will push the scientists, engineers, doctors, and other professionals in china (not the politicians) to look to the west and ask themselves, "hey, why aren't we like that?" it will challenge the propaganda, and the censorship in that country, and encourage individual and free thinking. and someday, perhaps after much bloodshed, the leaders of china will have to join the modern free world. all it takes are some chinese versions of the great forefathers that the americas have have benefit from. :D
 

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Dont get taiwan mixed up with China....I respect Taiwan's rights to be independent from the commies....China may not see it but Taiwan is the real brains fo the operation and has been for sometime....

Please link all verifications that those products are in fact made in China...I dont care if it is fabbed there but where would it have been "designed".

Wow....though other then the BFG (which the great american tech support I paid for) it is all crap!!!!

Taiwan is part of China period! Of couse, you want to see China break into different pieces.

Link?! Are you too lazy or just afraid to look at what was printed on your crap? Oh now, you don't care if you're using crap fabbed by thieves? What would that make you... better or worse than a thief?

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
D@mm those chinese sons of a b!tches!

Hey Duvie, you should have called this dude MORON instead of the one who mispelled RACIST.


Originally posted by: Duvie

Who cares....

let see...they are the largest market for counterfeit market ripping off billions from legit companies...they are more of a threat to the movie industry then the average joe making a copy of a DVd he rents from Netflix or blockbuster. They usually tend to place counterfeits on the market before they are even in the movie theaters in the US....

Then we have industrial sabotage where they are quickly becoming the leaders there as well...they are quickly (internet cafes) becoming the home of the most DNS attacks against companies, propogating virus and spyware attacks on average consumers...between Russias crime syndicates and the corrupt in china they account for a majority of theft attacks on companies of credit card numbers.....

I view the chinese for what they will become. As the last remaining sanctuary for communism and a totalitarism government with the military and nuke capacity I see them as a potential threat to the world and the US...they are the enemy as far as I am concerned. The average chinese person is probably a good working person but living blind in a society filled with propaganda I dont trust they will do the right thing.

They are trying to bully the Taiwanese ppl with serious threats now.

Mainly everything above I believe the government controls directly or has their hands in the pockets of.....If china was a democracy I would not fear them, but as one of the evil empires (I added them to Bushs short list) I would guard my technology and secrets well against them.

To the moron above...It is Racist not raciest...I am not racist. I am a nationalist, pro-democracy, anti-communist...I have chinese friends and trust me none of them wish to live there and believe the chinese government is a threat as I have stated. They may be smarter then the Russians caused they learned a closed economic society such as The soviet Bloc had was part of its demise. The Chinese will use the investement and technology to duplicate and the great monetary wealth of being eventually the economic superpower to propagate its war machine...then one day...You can imagine the next.

Yes, they are the largest market for counterfeit market. But what do you expect? They have a billion people or thieves as you like to call them. they are the largest market of many things. No, they are not ripping off billions from legit companies because most of the people over there who buy counterfeit stuff can't afford to buy legit. Even if there was no counterfeit, I don't think they would buy a DVD for over $150 (Chinese Dollar). A threat to the movie industry?! Are you kidding me? Are they going to shut down Hollywood?

DNS attacks against companies, propogating virus and spyware attacks on average consumers... you know who they are, right? Most of them are American who use the foreign networks to do this. So are the people who run and go on to those warez sites that you can pretty much download anything.... that's a bigger threat because they don't have to pay NOTHING! Are you one of those average Joe who downloads?

Why is China a potential threat to the world and the US? Tell me when did China go invate a country? Why can't China have nuke capacity? That's why the world is mad at the US' double standard... I have nuke, but you can't have it bacause you are a threat to the world or us :roll: Tell me who dropped the atomic bombs?

Again, Taiwan is part of China. Taiwan has separated from China for more than 50 years now. China has alway said they want Taiwan back by peace. It is the current stupid Taiwan president who wants to be independent. By the way, he got re-elected by hiring a farmer to shoot him during the presidentual election. What a joke! There is another political party from Taiwain. They were the ones who were at war with the communists 55 years ago originally. They just went back to China for first time to talk about peace since the war.

When did China become an evil empire while most of the world think otherwise when Bush led us to this stupid war in Iraq.

I admit that there are a lot for the Chinese government to improve. And China is not there yet. However, they are getting there.

beyoku, you don't wait for China to start kicking ass. They are already doing that. That's why the fear and jealous.

If you are not RACIST, you must believe everyting from the media here. If you still think China is a communist country by now, you must be living in a different world. Yeah right, you have Chinese friend... go tell them they are from the country of thieves, see if they are still your friends.

By the way, my English sucks because it's my second language. Call me a moron if you like, Duvie.


Originally posted by: Zebo
Ya they learned alright, instead they just use slave labor of thier peoples while the rich all have connections to the "party" which is corrupt to the core using police powers to enforce totalitarism.. I don't see many chineese wanting to go back. I know a bunch in the engineering feild. Fat and happy Americans they are now. You need balance in gov which only comes though democracy, a mertirtocracy, and certain god given freedoms which makes America great and china suck.

EDIT: As a side note I love how those fools buy all our debt. They can't afford not to have the trade or thier peoples will go riot, but when they get too uppity we'll nationlize all those tbills, all thier stock in NYSE, and send them back too stone age. They playing two move chess on a four move game.

No doubt, America is great, but China doesn't suck. I rather live in China than in Iraq which we gave "FREEDOM" to. China did suck like 30, 40 years ago if you really know what's been going on in China. But now, China is better than many countries in the world.

Your edit comment just tells me you are racist. So you really like to see people being sent back to stone age, huh? And tell me about this four move game of yours.

Zebo and Duvie, you two combined have almost 30,000 posts. You know better not to start flames by using words such as thief, moron, and fool.

I respect your contributions in this OC forum, but if you want to express yourselves politically, that's what the politics forum for. Poeple always have their points no matter what. So arguing about it is endless. Also, politic is dirty. that's why i will never be seen in that forum. However, I just could not resist when I see this here.

SOMEONE PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Duvie
China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
D@mm those chinese sons of a b!tches!

man STFU. This thread dosent need racist asshats liek to to fvck things up. Yesh, a lot of patents are stolen so what/ does that make me a theif by association?

Jesus wtf is wrong with you two. fvcking racist bastards making sh!t up and talking out your a55es

DIAF, Goodbye, and stuff it up your a55 the next time you are temped to be racist again.

<--chinese

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Zebo

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as far as stealing, again those are concepts of the west. the west cannot comprehend how it can be moral to take someone else's hard work, and simply copy it without following the rules set by the USPTO; JUST AS the people in china simply cannot comprehend why they have to give someone halfway around the world money in order to watch a movie~ especially when no one else around them does. it is again, a difference in the culture so wide that it cannot be bridged in a short matter of time. certainly, there are sly individuals/businessmen in china who may "hide" behind this excuse; but i think it goes a bit far to say that china is a country of a billion thieves.

"Cultural" my butt. So in essense you're saying Chinese don't like to be paid for the fruits of their labors, it's "cultural." I doubt that since all these american companies in china still have to pay their workers. Chinese have patent, copyright and trademarks laws. More likly chineese feel justified in stealing from someone half-way around the world, someone not chinese. The only "cultural" aspect here is they are extreme nationalism forstered by a corrupt government exploiting poeples poverty and ignorance who feel it's alright to steal form the "enemy."
 

Zebo

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Snowice you are full of it. When a chinese professor needed to save for a house he lived at my house rent free for 6 months with his wife and two kids. I hate communism. I hate police states. People are people period, I see China as Germany circa 1935 headed tward doom. (germans are white)
 

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Duvie
China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
D@mm those chinese sons of a b!tches!

man STFU. This thread dosent need racist asshats liek to to fvck things up. Yesh, a lot of patents are stolen so what/ does that make me a theif by association?

Jesus wtf is wrong with you two. fvcking racist bastards making sh!t up and talking out your a55es

DIAF, Goodbye, and stuff it up your a55 the next time you are temped to be racist again.

<--chinese

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I laugh at you as well....

I have already stated what I said was not being racist. It is merely my opinion about the state of China as a country. It is widely known they are the major market for counterfeiting items. I am stating a fact that cannot be refutted. China does not bide by international law unless it favors them. This is what I was referring to. This is not about chinese...I have no problem with Taiwan (chineses)...have several friends (college architecture students from there)...I have no problem with Asians...I have friends from Japan, and Korea...My wifes best friends are from Thailand and the Phillipines....

And to top it off you moronic cry baby race baitor we adopted our child and originally we were in a pool to adopt a child from China or Vietnam. The adoption agency cancelled adoptions form China because they said " the chinese governement was becoming increasing hard to work with"..."reports were they were taking lengthy periods to approve the paperwork leaving families in China for undeterminable period of time"..."they said some government officials were corrupted and were basically extorting the families once they were there to expediate or even to approve the paperwork".....just another example of how corrupt the workings of that country our....

We ultimately due to time period in the pool for a child (girl, cause like in China women were not valued as much...nice society!! sounds a lot like other regimes (Iraq and the Taliban of Afghanistan), we were chosen for a domestic open adoption...

Dont ever call me a racist you piece of no good SH^T......
 

Zebo

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mwmorph what are you doing living here if China is so wonderful and us americans are so racist? Critism is not a bad thing dude, I know in China I'd be "interned" or "killed" for it, but thats one of those god given rights that makes America great and China sux.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Duvie
China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
D@mm those chinese sons of a b!tches!

man STFU. This thread dosent need racist asshats liek to to fvck things up. Yesh, a lot of patents are stolen so what/ does that make me a theif by association?

Jesus wtf is wrong with you two. fvcking racist bastards making sh!t up and talking out your a55es

DIAF, Goodbye, and stuff it up your a55 the next time you are temped to be racist again.

<--chinese

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I laugh at you as well....

I have already stated what I said was not being racist. It is merely my opinion about the state of China as a country. It is widely known they are the major market for counterfeiting items. I am stating a fact that cannot be refutted. China does not bide by international law unless it favors them. This is what I was referring to. This is not about chinese...I have no problem with Taiwan (chineses)...have several friends (college architecture students from there)...I have no problem with Asians...I have friends from Japan, and Korea...My wifes best friends are from Thailand and the Phillipines....

And to top it off you moronic cry baby race baitor we adopted our child and originally we were in a pool to adopt a child from China or Vietnam. The adoption agency cancelled adoptions form China because they said " the chinese governement was becoming increasing hard to work with"..."reports were they were taking lengthy periods to approve the paperwork leaving families in China for undeterminable period of time"..."they said some government officials were corrupted and were basically extorting the families once they were there to expediate or even to approve the paperwork".....just another example of how corrupt the workings of that country our....

We ultimately due to time period in the pool for a child (girl, cause like in China women were not valued as much...nice society!! sounds a lot like other regimes (Iraq and the Taliban of Afghanistan), we were chosen for a domestic open adoption...

Dont ever call me a racist you piece of no good SH^T......

too bad you are racist. A55hat.
calling a country and all it's citizens theives and then backing away offering the excuse you are not racist is complete BS.

and I quote you
"you piece of no good SH^T...... "
take some of your own medicine and eat it.

Originally posted by: Zebo
mwmorph what are you doing living here if China is so wonderful and us americans are so racist? Critism is not a bad thing dude, I know in China I'd be "interned" or "killed" for it, but thats one of those god given rights that makes America great and China sux.

read my post. i said those two are a55hat racists not americans in general. I NEVER said China is wonderful, every country has it's share of problems. I'm just expressing Duvie is contributing to america's problem of racist eliteism.
 

Duvie

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I dont need to eat shite...I stand by everything I say I am sorry it hurts your feeling so!!! :(:lips::laugh:

Usually the person who cries racism is the biggest racist of them all....Do you fit in that category???

 

Zebo

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I disagree. Saying China and Chinese in China have some serious problems respecting IP is not racist. It's stating a fact the US state department is constantly railing on it. MS/Intel and other US gaints constantly go on about it. Fashion label makers like Calloway Golf or Calvin Klein go on about it. The MPAA/RIAA and it's members go on about it. Are they all racists?