Dude!! Calm Down!.....then again if anything does happen im going to go mad on one of these terrorist guys if I just happen to see one.
If we left it up to Mr. goody two shoes,there would be no America left,just a smoking hole in the ground.
(PLEASE,PLEASE do not ever run for office Moonbeam)
The reason why there ia a America today is because of people like me protecting people like you when it comes to defending our country.
So go live in your little fantasy world,smoke your pot in your dorm room and dream away......................
(PLEASE,PLEASE do not ever run for office Moonbeam)
The reason why there ia a America today is because of people like me protecting people like you when it comes to defending our country.
So go live in your little fantasy world,smoke your pot in your dorm room and dream away......................
Yea, Gaard, aren't you just furious now. 
Roger, I can appreciate the chest thumping and all. I have a profound interest in Primate behavior. But since you went round the bend fabricating an identity for me that satisfies various paramaters you permit yourself to ridicule, let me take the liberyt to tell you that you are the one having fantasies. But it's OK. A lot of times I feel just the same as you do. I just try to add some rationality to it so I don't fall out of my tree.
Roger, I can appreciate the chest thumping and all. I have a profound interest in Primate behavior. But since you went round the bend fabricating an identity for me that satisfies various paramaters you permit yourself to ridicule, let me take the liberyt to tell you that you are the one having fantasies. But it's OK. A lot of times I feel just the same as you do. I just try to add some rationality to it so I don't fall out of my tree.
sandorski
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Oh thank God! I slept through this mornings 30 minutes hate, but thanks to ATOT I can now make up for it!
To echo the voice crying in the wilderness: What's the point of this? Did you think OBL was preparing a letter of apology and condolences to the US/familes? We know the guy and his followers are bad and need to be brought to justice, so let's get on with it! The time for whipping up the troops is long over, it's now time to see the(long started) action to fruition.
To echo the voice crying in the wilderness: What's the point of this? Did you think OBL was preparing a letter of apology and condolences to the US/familes? We know the guy and his followers are bad and need to be brought to justice, so let's get on with it! The time for whipping up the troops is long over, it's now time to see the(long started) action to fruition.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Oh thank God! I slept through this mornings 30 minutes hate, but thanks to ATOT I can now make up for it!
To echo the voice crying in the wilderness: What's the point of this? Did you think OBL was preparing a letter of apology and condolences to the US/familes? We know the guy and his followers are bad and need to be brought to justice, so let's get on with it! The time for whipping up the troops is long over, it's now time to see the(long started) action to fruition.
There are plenty of people outside of the US who still question whether Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden were involved in 9/11.
I can't count how many "Where's the evidence?!" posts that were here on AnandTech. Well, the evidence is now mounting and the same people don't want to hear about it??
Certain people don't want to hear things like this because it strengthens the position they so hate. Those certain people also continually accuse others of closing thier eyes to the truth.
Except 'truth' is only what fits in thier equation.
Who needs to do that?
I don't hate anyone. Bin Laden and his henchmen are just doing what they feel is right and just. Fair enough.
They are just normal people with friends and family, etc.
That said I would kill them all without hesitation. Not because I hate them, or because I feel they are inferior or they are imhuman but because they would kill me given half the chance.
It's not about hatred it's about tactical defence via pre-emptive strikes.
I don't have to hate you to want you dead. That idea is a fallacy.
Frances Quote: I don't have to hate you to want you dead. That idea is a fallacy.
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That is not quite correct. You cannot want somebody dead without hate, abstractly and without context. You can want them dead in the sense of choosing to kill them rather than allow them to kill and you can do that without hate. Don't mean to split hairs, but it's important. Without a contest it is not natural to want anybody dead. In contest it is possible to kill without hate.
Edit: The issue is the gyrations a people go through to jack themselves up for war. It's all completely predictable and fully documented. It is also done by the participants completely unconsciously.
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That is not quite correct. You cannot want somebody dead without hate, abstractly and without context. You can want them dead in the sense of choosing to kill them rather than allow them to kill and you can do that without hate. Don't mean to split hairs, but it's important. Without a contest it is not natural to want anybody dead. In contest it is possible to kill without hate.
Edit: The issue is the gyrations a people go through to jack themselves up for war. It's all completely predictable and fully documented. It is also done by the participants completely unconsciously.
uhh...where's the chilling part? Or did you mean that OBL and his buds where just chillin when the attacks happened?
The book claiming 9/11 was a CIA plot was one of the best selling books in France's history.
And, of course, most of the M.E. thinks it's a Zionist plot.
But, in regards to those whose opinions actually matter, even in Western countries (like Australia where I live) there are a troubling amount of reasonable minded people
who actually buy into the many conspiracy theories.
There's a problem here guys...you can't just go killing every Arab you suspect is a terrorist. For having such a huge army at their disposal, I would think we'd have seen more terrorist attacks. Personally, I think the U.S. is using Osama and Al-Qaida as scapegoats for occupation of the arab nations. They look at us the same way we look at them, we just choose not to see what we have become...and they fail to see that they aren't going about it any better. We've hurt a lot of people, innocent or not, and most Arabs hold a grudge because of this, to say the least. Both sides are at fault and while I used to think the same way as you guys (let's bomb and kill every last one of 'em) I've definately seen that that is NOT the solution. You just make the terrorists look like martyrs to their fans and it causes people that would otherwise not join the terrorist cause to become involved in some fashion. In turn, it also makes the country look worse on the political scale and as if we're the big bullies on the corner.
The country has devolved into nothing but warmongers since the Korean War, and we're now beginning to really see the consequences. If we're not careful we may see this country go the way of the U.S.S.R., but in flames...
We need to finish what we started in Afghanistan and get the country back on its feet. Trying to find 1 elusive man in a world of 6 billion people is next to impossible, despite our technology. We may get hit hard by terrorist attacks here and there, but we are better than them. People may die because of these assholes, but if we show our vigilance through efforts of peace can make it through it. I'm not saying let them just invade our country and destroy us, but we need to just stay the hell out of other countries' affairs and ordeals. It isn't the terrorists I'm concerned about, it is the world turning on us completly...when we have no relations with the other parts of the world, then what happens? We may want to just take the "easy" way out (I know I still feel the urge to) and stand up against the rest of the world and tell them all to stick their noses in their own affairs, but what are we doing? We're sure as hell not keeping to ourselves. It may be easy to bomb the hell out of Iraq and other countries we deem as America haters, but other countries are allied with these people. Most of the world has an opposing point of view from us...and we may be able to destroy every other country in the world at the flick of a wrist, but we'll be going down with them.
C'mon guys, think about these things. I want to kill these terrorist bastards as much as the next guy, but doing so without harming innocent people and cutting our politcal ties is going to be impossible.
The country has devolved into nothing but warmongers since the Korean War, and we're now beginning to really see the consequences. If we're not careful we may see this country go the way of the U.S.S.R., but in flames...
We need to finish what we started in Afghanistan and get the country back on its feet. Trying to find 1 elusive man in a world of 6 billion people is next to impossible, despite our technology. We may get hit hard by terrorist attacks here and there, but we are better than them. People may die because of these assholes, but if we show our vigilance through efforts of peace can make it through it. I'm not saying let them just invade our country and destroy us, but we need to just stay the hell out of other countries' affairs and ordeals. It isn't the terrorists I'm concerned about, it is the world turning on us completly...when we have no relations with the other parts of the world, then what happens? We may want to just take the "easy" way out (I know I still feel the urge to) and stand up against the rest of the world and tell them all to stick their noses in their own affairs, but what are we doing? We're sure as hell not keeping to ourselves. It may be easy to bomb the hell out of Iraq and other countries we deem as America haters, but other countries are allied with these people. Most of the world has an opposing point of view from us...and we may be able to destroy every other country in the world at the flick of a wrist, but we'll be going down with them.
C'mon guys, think about these things. I want to kill these terrorist bastards as much as the next guy, but doing so without harming innocent people and cutting our politcal ties is going to be impossible.
lol. Yes, good idea. We'll just let them smack us around.
Why not go one step further and tape a sign to our backs that says 'Nuke Me'?
BTW, we are NOT better than them.... just better armed. These are people just like us. They feel they have to attack us to preserve themselves.
Fair enough. I am sorry they feel this way. We should give them a few months to reconsider thier need to attack us, but if the threat remains, we should dispose of them.
Not out of hatred. Not out of racism. Not out of prejudice. Simply out of self-preservation.
If I were to kill someone out of hatred I don't think I could live with myself.
But I could lay waste to millions with self-preservation in mind and not blink. Sue me.
*they means militant Islamic extremists and rogue states.
Again, I say, I don't take a 'we are better then them' stance. I simply take 'they have thier position' and 'we have our position' and they are now butting heads stance.
If the party with the smaller, weaker head doesn't recognise the danger of butting heads with the party with the large, well armed head then they are choosing thier own demise.
PS: Yes, the rules are different for the USA. That's what being a superpower is all about and why every country would love to be one and every country that isnt hates the countries that are.
If other countries don't like it I suggest they stand up to the US and butt heads. But again, if you play the game don't complain about the rules when you get stomped.
America will hold it's status as superpower and America will protect it's people and interests and it will do so by any means it deems neccessary.
Did I mention I am a sociopath and America is run by people like me? Scary isn't it?
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
lol. Yes, good idea. We'll just let them smack us around.
Why not go one step further and tape a sign to our backs that says 'Nuke Me'?
BTW, we are NOT better than them.... just better armed. These are people just like us. They feel they have to attack us to preserve themselves.
Fair enough. I am sorry they feel this way. We should give them a few months to reconsider thier need to attack us, but if the threat remains, we should dispose of them.
Not out of hatred. Not out of racism. Not out of prejudice. Simply out of self-preservation.
If I were to kill someone out of hatred I don't think I could live with myself.
But I could lay waste to millions with self-preservation in mind and not blink. Sue me.
*they means militant Islamic extremists and rogue states.
Again, I say, I don't take a 'we are better then them' stance. I simply take 'they have thier position' and 'we have our position' and they are now butting heads stance.
If the party with the smaller, weaker head doesn't recognise the danger of butting heads with the party with the large, well armed head then they are choosing thier own demise.
PS: Yes, the rules are different for the USA. That's what being a superpower is all about and why every country would love to be one and every country that isnt hates the countries that are.
If other countries don't like it I suggest they stand up to the US and butt heads. But again, if you play the game don't complain about the rules when you get stomped.
America will hold it's status as superpower and America will protect it's people and interests and it will do so by any means it deems neccessary.
Did I mention I am a sociopath and America is run by people like me? Scary isn't it?
lol like I have any clue what I am talking about. The Internet is funny... everyone is an expert.
What I meant by "we are better than them" is that we can be better people and not resort to the same tactics. We already have caused plenty of terror to others, but really now, can't we try to be better than that?
I didn't mean we are a superior culture or anything if that is how you are taking it
By the way, you're crazy. It scares me to know that most of America thinks the way you do.
I didn't mean we are a superior culture or anything if that is how you are taking it
By the way, you're crazy. It scares me to know that most of America thinks the way you do.
Good. It would be in your best interest to never forget that feeling and taste of fear.
Enemies of America would do well to familarize themselves with that fear.
If you will not respect us, you will fear us. There is very little difference between the two anyway.
For example, 99% of a childs respect for thier parents is derived of FEAR.
We don't want to be your friends. We don't care if you like us.
We simply want you to stay out of our way and leave us alone.
Sure, you may have legimate beefs with us.
But we will only care and address them when it is in our best interests to do so.
Either accept it or try to do something about it(Sep 11 2001) and accept the consequences(Afghanistan).
I am saying it as plainly as possible with no political correctness or tact.
We don't mind living by the sword since there is no sword is bigger than ours.
When we cease to be the superpower (and we WILL, live by the sword die by the sword) then we will worry about what others think.
Until then, if you see a B-52 coming your way I suggest running.
America is the new Rome. Assimilate or be destroyed. Don't worry, American's reign will come to an end eventually. But, probably not in YOUR lifetime or mine.
Too bad for you, yay for me.
Line up the worlds resources baby and let's suck them dry!
Ask yourself this: Am I an average American? Am I a lunatic? or am I just being brutally sarcastic?
Yeah!!! Watch your backs before we tear down Holy Ka'bah and open up a Starbuck's in it's place!
j/k
Not to mention the huge porn district we have planned.
We have a landing team of engineers from McDonalds, WalMart, Starbucks, and the porn industry just itching to commence construction.
Don't let FrancesfullofBeansRevenge bother you. The revenge he seeks is against America, not to be met out by it. He is a terrorist sympathizer and posts these beans to create antagonism against out great country. He wants you to think Americans are lunatics so his fellow terrorists can add to their ranks the shocked who realize how much better the world would be without people like him or really people who sound like him. Real Americans aren't sociopaths or pretend sociopaths. No, don't worry. Beans is a blowhard terrorist trying to get you to hate his target, America. But it won't work because we aren't like him at all. We don't just have powerful weapons, we have the ultimate weapon. We will absorb the world with our love, our tolerance, and our freedom. We will hit our enemies where they could never imagine. We will make them our friends. That?s just how we are. We are all the same, but in America, we know just how great that is. So congratulations Frances. You fight a gallant fight in the face of insurmountable odds like a squealing brat in the arms of his loving mother.
lolol! Wow you nailed another one. However did you become so smart and aware Obi?
Yes, Moonbeam is right, I am a terrorist sympathizer. Down with America! America's imperialism is wrong!
It doesn't matter that we in the Middle East can't seem to pull ourselves out of the Dark Ages and would rather be terrorists than face the fact the our way of life is DEAD.
It just MUST be America's fault and Israel's fault! So, even though our lives are hell(a nuclear bomb might actually be an improvement ) and we live in misery courtesy of dictators we ignore that and turn our rage to the true enemy, America and the dirty Jews in America that our beloved Quran tells us to kill indiscriminately.
I just wish my cover as a terrorist sympathizer wasn't blown
well I see I am not the only "I hate 90% of Moonbeam's posts" person around...
psychopathogy
That is a great, great word Moonboy. Thanks for once again reminding us of your vast command of English. You rock.
How about this for "the point is"..
For a variety of reasons, people are fascinated by information about OBL, his motives, his actions..basically everything about the guy. This past week there have been several videos released showing never-before-seen content related to OBL. If someone wants to point it out here, why bother posting a "what is the point?" reply? All you want to do is rile up people so you have a chance to show us your lovely, long words. Yes, I think we all were aware OBL is/was a bad guy, but again, news about him seems to generate a tremendous amount of interest. Sorry to waste your time with news about him, we forgot you already know everything. How boring your life must be as all these news stories roll by, and you already know everything about them. Oh, and your incessant repeating of the chest-beating, war drum pounding, and grunting, reminds me of my 3 year old child who simply repeats things over and over again as I try to explain things to her. Please stop. Please post something that doesn't make us all picture you sitting in your Berkely dorm room, blunt in hand, frantically typing away on 5 different message boards at once...dim light, smelly "make love not peace" tie-dye shirt, scraggly hair, wood sandals, about a buck ten, casper colored skin from a lack of exposure to the sun..you get the picture....oh, and remember this....many people on this board are smarter than you. They may not all like to use the nice big words that you do, but then again, even really smart people don't communicate using a "word of the day" word in every other sentence. We are not impressed. I could go on and on about Moonboy, but since I already promised I was going to stay out of any thread he was in, and I am already breaking that, I'll stop now...
Oh, and the guy who claims that we are just "using" OBL as an excuse to occupy Arab lands....Umm..no. You might want to get your head out of the sand. In case you don't forget, do a google search on World Trade Center, or September 11, or Pentagon attack, or Shanksville, PA. You may find something that goes a long way toward the reason we are over there right now. Clueless...We did land on the moon..you do know that, right? Moonbeam, since you can teach Japanese to a Monkey in 20 minutes, why don't you enlighten us as to the reason for US military forces in the Middle East? Or, as Valinos put it, the "Arab Lands".
psychopathogy
That is a great, great word Moonboy. Thanks for once again reminding us of your vast command of English. You rock.
How about this for "the point is"..
For a variety of reasons, people are fascinated by information about OBL, his motives, his actions..basically everything about the guy. This past week there have been several videos released showing never-before-seen content related to OBL. If someone wants to point it out here, why bother posting a "what is the point?" reply? All you want to do is rile up people so you have a chance to show us your lovely, long words. Yes, I think we all were aware OBL is/was a bad guy, but again, news about him seems to generate a tremendous amount of interest. Sorry to waste your time with news about him, we forgot you already know everything. How boring your life must be as all these news stories roll by, and you already know everything about them. Oh, and your incessant repeating of the chest-beating, war drum pounding, and grunting, reminds me of my 3 year old child who simply repeats things over and over again as I try to explain things to her. Please stop. Please post something that doesn't make us all picture you sitting in your Berkely dorm room, blunt in hand, frantically typing away on 5 different message boards at once...dim light, smelly "make love not peace" tie-dye shirt, scraggly hair, wood sandals, about a buck ten, casper colored skin from a lack of exposure to the sun..you get the picture....oh, and remember this....many people on this board are smarter than you. They may not all like to use the nice big words that you do, but then again, even really smart people don't communicate using a "word of the day" word in every other sentence. We are not impressed. I could go on and on about Moonboy, but since I already promised I was going to stay out of any thread he was in, and I am already breaking that, I'll stop now...
Oh, and the guy who claims that we are just "using" OBL as an excuse to occupy Arab lands....Umm..no. You might want to get your head out of the sand. In case you don't forget, do a google search on World Trade Center, or September 11, or Pentagon attack, or Shanksville, PA. You may find something that goes a long way toward the reason we are over there right now. Clueless...We did land on the moon..you do know that, right? Moonbeam, since you can teach Japanese to a Monkey in 20 minutes, why don't you enlighten us as to the reason for US military forces in the Middle East? Or, as Valinos put it, the "Arab Lands".
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