Child brides in the US? Why is that allowed?

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Another video on this issue:

 

[JoeBleed]

If religious crazies are going to fuck kids they will find a way to "legitimize" it within their religious crazy group so I don't really see the difference but fine, make it illegal for ordained people to hold any marriage ceremony involving kids. As long as it doesn't go too far and start locking up people involved in legitimate kids just playing.

What? what would this have to do with kids just playing?

Really, you think that this story will, all by its lonesome, get people to look away from the "refugee" issue that Europe is having? So do all bad stories about the US have this effect or just this one?

And I like to think that they pointed out a serious issue that we have in the states that is very easily fixed.

Do i think this shitty story all on its own will get people to look away? no, but it's a small piece. No, not all bad stories. if the BBC would report on the issues they're having around them more, i wouldn't bat and eye at this "story" and just think they're doing their job. but it seems they like to do crappy reporting these days. They did point out an issue in the US that needs to be addressed still. I guess, if it is the case, i'm surprised by the lack of people seeming to not know about this. I can only guess wildly as to why some states have no age limit at all. who knows if i'd be right.

 

[JoeBleed]

Another video on this issue:

Do people not know a lot, if not most, of this stems from strict religious sects? I haven't finished watching this and not a fan of this show. But i would think and hope most of the people that don't like people in muslim countries doing this don't like this shit in the US either; but i could be wrong. It seems to do mention a bit about some of the religious sects that do this in the US. Don't seem to be mentioning it much.

And is there any proof it's this bad in the US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_zppPutQw

Edit: wanted to be clear about my last statement and link. All of it is bad, but we, the US, don't come close to that.

 

[Darwin333]

Do people not know a lot, if not most, of this stems from strict religious sects? I haven't finished watching this and not a fan of this show. But i would think and hope most of the people that don't like people in muslim countries doing this don't like this shit in the US either; but i could be wrong. It seems to do mention a bit about some of the religious sects that do this in the US. Don't seem to be mentioning it much.

And is there any proof it's this bad in the US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_zppPutQw

Edit: wanted to be clear about my last statement and link. All of it is bad, but we, the US, don't come close to that.

I personally don't want to compare my country to shitty 3rd world countries. It's like saying "well my finances are better than Joe the crackhead" or something. As I said earlier, there is an absurdly easy fix for this in the US so the fact that it happens at all is completely and totally unacceptable and it should continue to get as much press as necessary to get it addressed now. I'd be willing to bet a months pay that there have been some poor children sold into marriage right here in the good ole USA. A single instance of that happening is way too much regardless of how often it happens in whogivesafuckastan.

 

[JoeBleed]

I personally don't want to compare my country to shitty 3rd world countries. It's like saying "well my finances are better than Joe the crackhead" or something. As I said earlier, there is an absurdly easy fix for this in the US so the fact that it happens at all is completely and totally unacceptable and it should continue to get as much press as necessary to get it addressed now. I'd be willing to bet a months pay that there have been some poor children sold into marriage right here in the good ole USA. A single instance of that happening is way too much regardless of how often it happens in whogivesafuckastan.

I agree that it can and should be easily fixed. But keep in mind, once you make it illegal, it will still happen. Though it may not be licensed or recognized by the state and feds.

 

[J.Wilkins]

LOL, 'muricans saying "look over there" or "it's a conspiracy to hide Germany's refugee situation"...

There are problems in every society, the difference is that we don't go "look over there", we deal with our problems.

I suggest you do the same.

 

[J.Wilkins]

I agree that it can and should be easily fixed. But keep in mind, once you make it illegal, it will still happen. Though it may not be licensed or recognized by the state and feds.

This is the silliest argument of all...

Murder still happens too and yet it is illegal... The point is that making it illegal shows that society does NOT accept it and makes the perpetrators actions crimes.

 

[JoeBleed]

This is the silliest argument of all...

Murder still happens too and yet it is illegal... The point is that making it illegal shows that society does NOT accept it and makes the perpetrators actions crimes.

Me saying that it should be fixed and made illegal is the silliest argument... right... but it's ok, i know you only read it as if i was saying "they'll still do it so don't bother" but your fucking wrong.

 

[JoeBleed]

LOL, 'muricans saying "look over there" or "it's a conspiracy to hide Germany's refugee situation"...

There are problems in every society, the difference is that we don't go "look over there", we deal with our problems.

I suggest you do the same.

How are you dealing with your problems exactly?

 

[J.Wilkins]

How are you dealing with your problems exactly?

In England? Well our problems are mainly with Eastern Europeans since they like to send their poor over here but we are dealing with them through education and treating them with a modicum of respect that they are not used to.

Germany? They don't really have a refugee problem there no matter what StormFront tells you. Their crime rates went far up as Romanians and Hungarians went into Eastern Germany but other than that...

BTW, those refugees on the train station at new years, you can't whine about that..... You elected a person that did what they did as your president.

 

[OutHouse]

Loretta Lynn got married at 13, was a mother of 4 by 18

 

[J.Wilkins]

Me saying that it should be fixed and made illegal is the silliest argument... right... but it's ok, i know you only read it as if i was saying "they'll still do it so don't bother" but your fucking wrong.

No, you saying, and I quote directly: "But keep in mind, once you make it illegal, it will still happen." is what I was arguing against.

I do not, even for a second, believe you are so incredibly stupid that you didn't get that...

The only other option is that you are dishonest but I'll leave it up to you.

Are you stupid or dishonest?

 

[J.Wilkins]

Loretta Lynn.

Ivana Trump

 

[JoeBleed]

In England? Well our problems are mainly with Eastern Europeans since they like to send their poor over here but we are dealing with them through education and treating them with a modicum of respect that they are not used to.

Germany? They don't really have a refugee problem there no matter what StormFront tells you. Their crime rates went far up as Romanians and Hungarians went into Eastern Germany but other than that...

BTW, those refugees on the train station at new years, you can't whine about that..... You elected a person that did what they did as your president.

And this is why i don't come to P&N. i wish this thread never got moved here. I don't read stormfront now or ever. You talk about our president as if he's a nazi. he's not, he's just and idot that wasn't a Clinton.

 

[JoeBleed]

No, you saying, and I quote directly: "But keep in mind, once you make it illegal, it will still happen." is what I was arguing against.

I do not, even for a second, believe you are so incredibly stupid that you didn't get that...

The only other option is that you are dishonest but I'll leave it up to you.

Are you stupid or dishonest?

in no part of my statement did i say to not or should not make it illegal.

 

[J.Wilkins]

in no part of my statement did i say to not or should not make it illegal.

You argued throughout this thread that making it illegal would not stop the practice, that IS an argument against making it illegal if I ever saw one.

Now you want to play pretend that you did no such thing?

Fine, you're dishonest and this discussion is over. It's the last one we'll ever have because while I can educate the stupid I can't fix the wilfully dishonest twits.

 

[JoeBleed]

You argued throughout this thread that making it illegal would not stop the practice, that IS an argument against making it illegal if I ever saw one.

Now you want to play pretend that you did no such thing?

Fine, you're dishonest and this discussion is over. It's the last one we'll ever have because while I can educate the stupid I can't fix the wilfully dishonest twits.

This is not an argument to making it illegal. It is point out that it will not stop it because people seem to assume the problem is take care of once there is a law against the problem.

Edit: fixing my post. missed some words. Just going to retype it and leave original in Italics.
This is not an argument to not making it illegal. It is to point out that it will not stop it because people seem to assume the problem has been taken care of once there is a law against the problem. Adding to that, i want people to not forget about this and not assume all is well once it is illegal.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Many things don't stop when you make them illegal. But a lot happen less frequent, and it at least makes it possible to prosecute those doing it and to rescue the victims.

And if a sect or other (religious or not) community allows or encourages it that whole group can be dragged to court or be named a criminal organisation. Don't just prosecute the older partner in the marriage but also those forcing the kid, also those conducting the ceremony, and anyone else that is aware and doesn't call it in or otherwise tries to stop it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

In England? Well our problems are mainly with Eastern Europeans since they like to send their poor over here but we are dealing with them through education and treating them with a modicum of respect that they are not used to.

Germany? They don't really have a refugee problem there no matter what StormFront tells you. Their crime rates went far up as Romanians and Hungarians went into Eastern Germany but other than that...

BTW, those refugees on the train station at new years, you can't whine about that..... You elected a person that did what they did as your president.

in curious, was your respect given freely? maybe they didnt earn that respect in eastern europe.

maybe you mean your country treats them humanely?