CHILD ABUSE

[hiromizu]

KEYBOARD ABUSE!!!!!!!!!

 

[mattpegher]

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx

Originally posted by: DrPizza

how about "mind your own business" for 500 Alex.

you make me sick for wanting to call CPS on a family you dont know based on ONE incident.

so again before you call CPS on somebody you better make damn sure you are right and not reacting to a knee jerk emotion.

also, if that couple calls your boss about this you may be out of a job.

Actually, some of us would lose our job if we DIDN'T complain to CPS on such an incident. Our professional licenses are at stake. Many of us are mandatory reporters. If we fail to report suspected cases of child abuse, it's our asses on the line. Seeing a parent abusing a medication in this manner is more than reason enough to cause a report to be made.

Hmm, I'm fairly sure a waitress isnt a mandatory reporter of child abuse.

Manditory reporting is not so much a law as resposibility of certain professions. Doctors, nurses, other health care workers, teachers, and maybe some others. It does not apply to the general public.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: zerocool1

Originally posted by: Number1

Also it is kind of hypocritical of you to wait for your tip before lecturing them. If you where THAT concerned you would have stoped them from giving the baby the medication.

read the thread... the op later said that they did it after they were paid up. and besides how is it hypocritical?

@OP, i don't know if i would have said anything. but it would depend on how much they gave the kid. if i were to approach the parents i would say something like, what did you give the kid and what for...manipulating it so it would seem like i would use it on my kid even if you don't, hell then you can ask them how much to give so it doesn't sound like you're going off on them. but that's just me.

hypocritical
Being a hypocrite. Saying one thing but acting or thinking in a contradictory manner.
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Here is what she said:

I would have paid for their meal if they would have spoken to a doctor that minute! I got $3.50 on $40, but they paid before I told the f'n idiots off!!! LMAO!!!!

Do you suffer from reading comprehention?

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Although you have already stated that you feel compelled not to mind your own business, I will warn you not to play doctor. Your understanding of the antihistamines dyphenhidramine and doxylamine is cursory at best. Neither is contraindicated is children. That being said using an antihistamine as a sleep aid for children on a regular basis unless instructed by a their pediatrician is poor parenting. However please do not trivialize the attrocity of physical and emotional abuse by equating it to this.

It took 4 years of med school, 4 years of residency and 10 years of clinical practice for me to get to the level of understanding I now have regarding the truths and falacies of pharmacologic research, FDA warnings, political interference and popular media perspective. Your soapbox laymans approach is myopic and misdirected.

Rant all you desire but realize that you have no authority in this matter.

^ Best response in thread.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Although you have already stated that you feel compelled not to mind your own business, I will warn you not to play doctor. Your understanding of the antihistamines dyphenhidramine and doxylamine is cursory at best. Neither is contraindicated is children. That being said using an antihistamine as a sleep aid for children on a regular basis unless instructed by a their pediatrician is poor parenting. However please do not trivialize the attrocity of physical and emotional abuse by equating it to this.

It took 4 years of med school, 4 years of residency and 10 years of clinical practice for me to get to the level of understanding I now have regarding the truths and falacies of pharmacologic research, FDA warnings, political interference and popular media perspective. Your soapbox laymans approach is myopic and misdirected.

Rant all you desire but realize that you have no authority in this matter.

^ Best response in thread.

yeah but i don't think she will understand it. heh

 

[mitaiwan82]

legal assistants can give out legal advice now?

and please calm down

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Although you have already stated that you feel compelled not to mind your own business, I will warn you not to play doctor. Your understanding of the antihistamines dyphenhidramine and doxylamine is cursory at best. Neither is contraindicated is children. That being said using an antihistamine as a sleep aid for children on a regular basis unless instructed by a their pediatrician is poor parenting. However please do not trivialize the attrocity of physical and emotional abuse by equating it to this.

It took 4 years of med school, 4 years of residency and 10 years of clinical practice for me to get to the level of understanding I now have regarding the truths and falacies of pharmacologic research, FDA warnings, political interference and popular media perspective. Your soapbox laymans approach is myopic and misdirected.

Rant all you desire but realize that you have no authority in this matter.

You shall now be known as Dr. Pwn.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Although you have already stated that you feel compelled not to mind your own business, I will warn you not to play doctor. Your understanding of the antihistamines dyphenhidramine and doxylamine is cursory at best. Neither is contraindicated is children. That being said using an antihistamine as a sleep aid for children on a regular basis unless instructed by a their pediatrician is poor parenting. However please do not trivialize the attrocity of physical and emotional abuse by equating it to this.

It took 4 years of med school, 4 years of residency and 10 years of clinical practice for me to get to the level of understanding I now have regarding the truths and falacies of pharmacologic research, FDA warnings, political interference and popular media perspective. Your soapbox laymans approach is myopic and misdirected.

Rant all you desire but realize that you have no authority in this matter.

^ Best response in thread.

Agreed! :thumbsup:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
So when my doctor told me to give a small amount of Benadryl (far below the adult dose) at night to our 1 year old daughter to help her relax and go to sleep because she would literally squirm around in her crib from 8pm-midnight then we should've alerted the authorities?

I'm not saying what those parents did were right. If they were just giving their kid a bunch of NyQuil of their own accord to shut him up at night then shame on them. However, if a Dr. says it's OK and their kid has a lot of trouble sleeping at night, then it's understandable.

From the OP:

SHE SAID "I WILL ASK THE DOCTOR."

So apparently she had not already spoken to a doctor about it.

 

[txrandom]

mattpegher makes good posts.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
is this Fettsbabe person serious? her/his posts seem like they are coming from a retard.

Going by the name and having seen bober's abrasive, trollish posts, I have to say they're perfect for each other.

 

[Onita]

Originally posted by: mugs

From the OP:

SHE SAID "I WILL ASK THE DOCTOR."

So apparently she had not already spoken to a doctor about it.

Either that, or she didn't feel the need to explain her self to some waitress who decided to be a bitch to them.

 

[randay]

MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS IF THEY WANT TO DRUG THIER CHILD ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS YOU SHOULD JUST STFU AND LET THEM DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

yeah...

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: quasi

Originally posted by: FettsBabe
"this is my last post in this thread"

Run Like A Chicken Big Boy!!!!

A child's interest is above the parents and I saw them give a alcohol based adult medication to their child who said it was for "sleep."
I also saw his head start to tilt a few minutes later and he could barely hold it up.

Drug abuse, child abuse, child neglect and possibly child death. Oh, yeah, but I am supposed to be sure... I saw it big boy...i meant little chicken!!!!!!

What I want to know is how you ever became an elite member.

I'm siding with Citrix on this one.
I too have had friends have CPS called on them. It doesn't matter that the neighbor that called CPS on them did it because he was mad about a fucking tree that hung over his property line. It totally screws THE ENTIRE FAMILY. CHILD INCLUDED Once the alligation is made there is no turning back. Everyone will suspect the parents, which causes a rift between the parents and their family/friends. Then the parents most often turn on each other, because now there is doubt in each others minds as to whether or not the other one did something to the kid.
And during the investigation process, the kids are usually taken from their home and either put in foster homes or if they are lucky they go live with a relative. Hopefully the relative believes the parents, otherwise, they do like so many have done, and manipulate the child into believing he was abused.
I've seen the after math of false accusations 1st hand from my friends that were called on and while doing a ride along before I went to the Police Academy, we went to a house where a shooting took place, where parents where fighting because someone called CPS on the Dad and the mom ended up shooting and killing him. It turned out he didn't do anything, so Dad is now dead and mom is in lock up for the rest of her life.

Yup, that really helped out the kid in that intense.
So make sure all your ducks are in a row before you go reporting people. You saw a sliver of their life an djumped to conclusions that she must drug him every day.
I have to give my 6 year old Melatonin almost every night, as prescribed by her doctor, since she will stay up for days with out it. It's just another weird symptom of her Autism.
So maybe the kid is dosed every night on Dr. orders. Maybe they did it just that once because they were out late and knew that the kid would be wired forever if they didn't.

I have a bottle of Nyquil in the bathroom that has maybe 1 dose left in it and it's been like that for 6 months, so if I took it out would you immediately think I've been taking the whole bottle in a row?

Comments on a persons elite status isn't appropriate for this thread (go post if PFI if you have an issue with it). That remark was disrespectful of all of our elite members regardeless of their sex.
Andandtech Moderator - bsobel

 

[Fritzo]

OMG- I probably would have said something too. Nyquil style medicines are VERY powerful and even adults have problems with them. An adult dose could send a small child into cardiac arrest, stop their breathing...antihistamines and kids do not mix. They have replacement and low dose antihistamines for kids, but wow, that's scary.

Like I said, I would have said something in case the mom just didn't know. I used to be in the medical field and have seen the results of OTC medications and kids. NOBODY reads labels, and many times the results are more than the parent bargained for.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Yeah, now they'll cut off the Nyquil and start using Ritalin...

 

[middlehead]

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, BUT EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU NEED TO STEER

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: child of wonder
So when my doctor told me to give a small amount of Benadryl (far below the adult dose) at night to our 1 year old daughter to help her relax and go to sleep because she would literally squirm around in her crib from 8pm-midnight then we should've alerted the authorities?

I'm not saying what those parents did were right. If they were just giving their kid a bunch of NyQuil of their own accord to shut him up at night then shame on them. However, if a Dr. says it's OK and their kid has a lot of trouble sleeping at night, then it's understandable.

From the OP:

SHE SAID "I WILL ASK THE DOCTOR."

So apparently she had not already spoken to a doctor about it.

Or maybe the doctor recommended the dosage and now she wants to find out if it's actually dangerous from the doctor?

 

[uhohs]

Originally posted by: quasi

Originally posted by: FettsBabe
"this is my last post in this thread"

Run Like A Chicken Big Boy!!!!

A child's interest is above the parents and I saw them give a alcohol based adult medication to their child who said it was for "sleep."
I also saw his head start to tilt a few minutes later and he could barely hold it up.

Drug abuse, child abuse, child neglect and possibly child death. Oh, yeah, but I am supposed to be sure... I saw it big boy...i meant little chicken!!!!!!

What I want to know is how you ever became an elite member.

by name calling, throwing around insults, and acting like she's better than everyone else. duh.

 

[nakedfrog]

Typically, children's medicines contain the exact same components as adult medicines, just in lower doses.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Although you have already stated that you feel compelled not to mind your own business, I will warn you not to play doctor. Your understanding of the antihistamines dyphenhidramine and doxylamine is cursory at best. Neither is contraindicated is children. That being said using an antihistamine as a sleep aid for children on a regular basis unless instructed by a their pediatrician is poor parenting. However please do not trivialize the attrocity of physical and emotional abuse by equating it to this.

It took 4 years of med school, 4 years of residency and 10 years of clinical practice for me to get to the level of understanding I now have regarding the truths and falacies of pharmacologic research, FDA warnings, political interference and popular media perspective. Your soapbox laymans approach is myopic and misdirected.

Rant all you desire but realize that you have no authority in this matter.

I think it has dextromethorphan hydrobromide instead of diphenhydramine. Which what actually be even safer for a child and is actually similar to the ingredients in Chidren's Nyquil which has DXM and Chlorpheniramine considering two antihistamines together (like your previously mentioned) would have more of a cumulative effect. Either way, unless she was giving him several large doses it wouldn't have any adverse effects on the child unless he was atopic or something.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Citrix..."mind your own business" I guess you would say that if you knew someone was being beaten and bruised or molested...people like you make me sick.

Silence is not the answer.

Booberfett is not my hubby! Why do people think that...he is in Missouri or Minnesota and I'm in NC!!!!

Psychoholic is my hubby.

yelling at them and calling them bad parents is a far cry from asking if they knew about the recent studies leading to your conclusions. maybe you should have reined in those emotions and approached it like an adult. maybe strike up a conversation about it, leading to the dangers youre aware of, and dont know if they are aware of?

ive done this for some things before, people are way more receptive and willing to listen if its in a conversational manner instead of a condescending "stoopid, yur aboosing that kid!" way.

ya catch more flies with honey than vinegar, remember?

 

[mattpegher]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Although you have already stated that you feel compelled not to mind your own business, I will warn you not to play doctor. Your understanding of the antihistamines dyphenhidramine and doxylamine is cursory at best. Neither is contraindicated is children. That being said using an antihistamine as a sleep aid for children on a regular basis unless instructed by a their pediatrician is poor parenting. However please do not trivialize the attrocity of physical and emotional abuse by equating it to this.

It took 4 years of med school, 4 years of residency and 10 years of clinical practice for me to get to the level of understanding I now have regarding the truths and falacies of pharmacologic research, FDA warnings, political interference and popular media perspective. Your soapbox laymans approach is myopic and misdirected.

Rant all you desire but realize that you have no authority in this matter.

I think it has dextromethorphan hydrobromide instead of diphenhydramine. Which what actually be even safer for a child and is actually similar to the ingredients in Chidren's Nyquil which has DXM and Chlorpheniramine considering two antihistamines together (like your previously mentioned) would have more of a cumulative effect. Either way, unless she was giving him several large doses it wouldn't have any adverse effects on the child unless he was atopic or something.

You are right many of the Nyquil products contain Dextromethorophan and doxylamine as well as tylenol. The dyphenyhramine was in reference to another of her posts in which she mentioned Benadryl. Dextromethorophan is a cough suppressant. It is usually noted as the DM in medicines such as Robitussin DM or Mucinex DM. Chlorpheniramine is another antihistamine. I cannot think of any drug that mixes two antihistamines as the effect would be additive and have no benifit over a larger dose of one. There has been recent use of Dextromethorophan as a recreational drug by teens and in large doses can be rather dangerous.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Typically, children's medicines contain the exact same components as adult medicines, just in lower doses.

yeap.

we got a paper from my doctor that listed all the children's medicines that were the same as adult ones. it was a big list. very few were made for children.


this is another case of a ignorant person not knowing all the facts.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Booberfett is not my hubby! Why do people think that...he is in Missouri or Minnesota and I'm in NC!!!!

Psychoholic is my hubby.

Rogodin is an idiot. If you want a good chuckle, read some of the threads he's started.