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Originally posted by: Perknose
What was your Mother's cooking like? What did you grow up eating?
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Not a whole lot of different things.
I'm sure she was a good cook; my dad and sister always liked what she made.

All the spices and flavorings, it's like taking a party of people and music equipment and putting it all through a giant blender - it's not a party anymore, and it's just a little gross. (And possibly disturbing, but I'll exclude that for the sake of the example. 😉)


And put it this way - if I could just remove my sense of taste, and eat nothing but "meal pills" or some sort of substance that efficiently met all of my nutritional requirements, I would gladly accept it. The main thing taste is really useful for, as far as I'm concerned, is telling if food has spoiled. Other than that, it's just irritating.

 
Chicken sucks without being fried, chicken on it's own it pretty bland to me.

Wings from WOW Wingery = teh wins!
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
And put it this way - if I could just remove my sense of taste, and eat nothing but "meal pills" or some sort of substance that efficiently met all of my nutritional requirements, I would gladly accept it. The main thing taste is really useful for, as far as I'm concerned, is telling if food has spoiled. Other than that, it's just irritating.
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My Dad loved to cook. His mother was French (a survivor to the Titanic, no less). Even more, he loved to EAT. He often said, "Some people live to eat, others eat to live."

I guess it's like the absolute dichotomy between dog lovers and non lovers or cat lovers and non lovers or animals in the house and animals strictly outside people. . . never the 'twain shall meet.

<shrug>

 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: Perknose
What was your Mother's cooking like? What did you grow up eating?
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Not a whole lot of different things.
I'm sure she was a good cook; my dad and sister always liked what she made.

All the spices and flavorings, it's like taking a party of people and music equipment and putting it all through a giant blender - it's not a party anymore, and it's just a little gross. (And possibly disturbing, but I'll exclude that for the sake of the example. 😉)


And put it this way - if I could just remove my sense of taste, and eat nothing but "meal pills" or some sort of substance that efficiently met all of my nutritional requirements, I would gladly accept it. The main thing taste is really useful for, as far as I'm concerned, is telling if food has spoiled. Other than that, it's just irritating.
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I realize you're content but it's difficult not to see your choices as limited. I won't stoop to using a silly analogy to try and describe why, but it seems like, without some biological imperative, you're just being obtuse. It is possible that there are individuals for whom intensity of flavor is a negative expeirence, if so I'm not familiar with the condition.
In essence, I can't help but feel sorry for you. Diversity of flavor experience is enjoyable, I'm sorry you're cut off from that experience.
Good luck.

 
Originally posted by: Lola
Any dark meat. Much more flavor.
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I can't recall ever cooking chicken breast plain. Always some sort of a marinade, bbq sauce, etc. I agree - the dark meat is better when by itself, especially turkey. But as far as the finished dish - breast is better.
 
Originally posted by: zoiks
Chicken leg. Organic chicken that is. Free range chickens may apply also.
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You make a good point - not necessarily organic chicken, but a lot of grocery store chicken is pretty crappy and bland - I'll bet that's why a lot of people in this thread frown upon the chicken breasts. Good chicken from a real farm - not chicken grown by the billion in some factory-like setting has a lot more flavor. From a real farm and organic are pretty much indistinguishable in flavor (usually). Factory chicken: grown to market weight as fast as possible with the least amount of food possible; I'd expect it to be bland. Most of those chickens are only 8 weeks old or less.
 
I use sub $2 a pound boneless, skinless factory farm chicken breast like I use tofu . . . as a recipient of flavor in an overall recipe, a textural counterpoint and addition, and a source of protein in same. It has it's place.

Otherwise, yeah. Thigh > breast and organic free range > free range > factory farm raised.

I wanna' hear more about chicken gizzards (pearls?) 'cause I'm a big, dumb white Northern white guy. Gizzard loves, inflame me with desire for them by the sheer eloquence of your posts. 😛
 
Originally posted by: djheater
I realize you're content but it's difficult not to see your choices as limited. I won't stoop to using a silly analogy to try and describe why, but it seems like, without some biological imperative, you're just being obtuse. It is possible that there are individuals for whom intensity of flavor is a negative expeirence, if so I'm not familiar with the condition.
In essence, I can't help but feel sorry for you. Diversity of flavor experience is enjoyable, I'm sorry you're cut off from that experience.
Good luck.
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You can't miss what you never had.🙂



Originally posted by: Chronoshock
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Am I the only one who is filled with tremendous pity for Jeff7?
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No, I do too. Food is one of the great pleasures in life.
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Geeeez, it's just nutrients your bod needs to survive. It's "good" because your brain evolved to tell you that so you wouldn't starve to death.

I sure hope food isn't one of life's greatest pleasures. That just seems.....well, I'd hope for more out of life than that.

Oh well. If you love food, fine, incorporate it into whatever else you get out of life. Me, I guess eating is just a chore, like brushing teeth or showering. Something that simply needs to get done.




Ns1 - prepare to be pillaged. 😛

 
Originally posted by: Perknose
I use sub $2 a pound boneless, skinless factory farm chicken breast like I use tofu . . . as a recipient of flavor in an overall recipe, a textural counterpoint and addition, and a source of protein in same. It has it's place.

Otherwise, yeah. Thigh > breast and organic free range > free range > factory farm raised.

I wanna' hear more about chicken gizzards (pearls?) 'cause I'm a big, dumb white Northern white guy. Gizzard loves, inflame me with desire for them by the sheer eloquence of your posts. 😛
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I'm a big, dumb white Northern white guy(just how "white" are you?? 😛) and grew up having the Gizzard. You usually have to buy a whole chicken to get the Gizzard, maybe that's why you know little about it. Anyway, it's flavour is kinda a median between chicken Heart and the dark meat on the thigh/leg. The texture is rather interesting, being kinda tough, but once piercing the outer skin it chews up easily enough. It's really good added to a chicken soup or even cooked inside a stuffed chicken. Buy yourself a whole chicken, look inside for a bag that holds the Heart, Gizzard, and Liver, and cook them all up in some fashion. I personally can't stand the Heart and Liver, but some love them, so.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: djheater
I realize you're content but it's difficult not to see your choices as limited. I won't stoop to using a silly analogy to try and describe why, but it seems like, without some biological imperative, you're just being obtuse. It is possible that there are individuals for whom intensity of flavor is a negative expeirence, if so I'm not familiar with the condition.
In essence, I can't help but feel sorry for you. Diversity of flavor experience is enjoyable, I'm sorry you're cut off from that experience.
Good luck.
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You can't miss what you never had.🙂



Originally posted by: Chronoshock
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Am I the only one who is filled with tremendous pity for Jeff7?
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No, I do too. Food is one of the great pleasures in life.
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Geeeez, it's just nutrients your bod needs to survive. It's "good" because your brain evolved to tell you that so you wouldn't starve to death.

I sure hope food isn't one of life's greatest pleasures. That just seems.....well, I'd hope for more out of life than that.

Oh well. If you love food, fine, incorporate it into whatever else you get out of life. Me, I guess eating is just a chore, like brushing teeth or showering. Something that simply needs to get done.




Ns1 - prepare to be pillaged. 😛
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I have a Nephew who has no sense of Taste(literally) who judges food on how it feels in his mouth. He hates Onions, bell peppers, whole/Sliced tomatoes, Fat, and a few other things. He loves Spicy Hot stuff though, so he's got that going for him. I always bug him about it, but for some that's just the way it goes.

I personally loathe most types of Seafood, with a few exceptions.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: sandorski
Do you hate Onions too? 😱
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TheOnion - no.

Onions - yes. They're ok if they're sufficiently mixed in with something else, with some of the spiciness gone from them, but I generally don't care for onions.
Garlic, too, I don't like. It leaves an unpleasant and very distracting aftertaste that persists for hours.


Originally posted by: Perknose
Wow. I've been rendered speechless. 🙁
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Yeah, that happens. 🙂
It caused tension at home, too. For many years, my mom would always keep making me "try" new foods. It got to the point where I learned that "Try it, it's delicious!" meant bad, bad news. She loved PA Dutch stuff, like chow-chow, or other things, like quiche. One kind of quiche stank so bad, I'd leave the house just to keep from gagging. Broccoli quiche, maybe?

It took a long, long time, like maybe mid-teen years, when she finally stopped, and if she'd feel like cooking something, it would be from the limited selection of "bland" things I'd eat.

But hey, cooking for me is pretty easy. No excessive or lengthy preparations, no huge ingredients lists, and very few dirty dishes.
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you're so weak.
 
The single best piece of the bird has yet to be mentioned here. The butt. Yep. The butt.

Roast a whole chicken. When eating it, the part I go for first is the chicken butt. It's the little heart-shaped piece that sticks out from the underside of the chicken between the drumsticks. That goes first.

Next come the legs, then the first slice of breast with the most skin. After peeling away most of the breast, the 2 cords of meat running along the breastbone are the next best.
 
In order of deliciousness:

Skin (nothing beats crispy skin off a well roasted bird)
Thighs (specifically the oysters)
Livers (fried or mousse)
Feet (they're just fun to eat)
The rest (not that there's anything wrong with it!)
 
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