CHH Bermuda XT Engineering Sample - 165% performance of 290X - GloFo 20nm

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KingstonU

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Not sure if already posted: ChipHell Bermuda XT

Bermuda XT Engineering Sample Globo Foundries 20nm process, 65% of 290X (I suspect they mean 165%)

Also mention of Fiji XT and GM200
 
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alcoholbob

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Nvidia is much closer to launch so if they think they cant get another 15-20% extra perf they might just release GM200 first to get some sales before AMD releases the faster 390X.
 

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Nvidia is much closer to launch so if they think they cant get another 15-20% extra perf they might just release GM200 first to get some sales before AMD releases the faster 390X.
The 980 was released just 3 months ago. I have a hard time believing that Nvidia has a new flagship card just sitting and waiting in the wings.
 

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Not sure if already posted: ChipHell Fiji XT

Fiji XT Engineering Sample Globo Foundries 20nm process, 65% of 290X (I suspect they mean 165%)

Also mention of Bermuda XT and GM200

That's not what the post at ChipHell says. Bermuda XT, the flagship 300 series, a true successor to 290X, is supposedly 65% faster, not Fiji XT (presumably 380X). You should correct your original post.
 

KingstonU

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My bad, I honestly can't keep track of all the code names for each die anymore :p There are so many islands!!!

So Fiji XT is the 380X and Bermuda is the 390X I guess. OP will be corrected
 

thilanliyan

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Not good enough...we need 200% more performance from the midrange compared to the last high end card...and should be 50% of the cost. :p

65% on top of a 290X is pretty decent. Hope it is priced more in the $500-550 range. I think I'm done buying video cards for a while though. Had 3x7950s and 3x290s for the last year (mining), and now I'm down to 2x290. Should hold me over for a while, especially since my 7-year old BenQ VA 24" monitor just will not die haha.
 
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alcoholbob

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The 980 was released just 3 months ago. I have a hard time believing that Nvidia has a new flagship card just sitting and waiting in the wings.

Engineering samples for GM200 showed up in June 2014 on the shipping manifests at Zauba, 2 months after GM204 did. The engineering samples for 390X didnt appear until last month in India, so all evidence points to GM200 having a 4-5 month head start on the 390X in terms of development time.

Now sure, the 390X might still come first if you think Something catestrophic happens in nvidia or somehow AMD finds some way to mitigate that head start.

Im not saying nvidia has GM200 "waiting in the wings." After all even though it taped out soon after GM204 and they already have engineering samples something else might delay the launch.
 
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I can't wait to see what the next gen of cards actually holds in terms of performance. As much as I try to be objective in my evaluation of the GPU market, the mid-range as temporary flagship tactic drives me up the wall. I'm all for capitalism, but at some point you cross a line and just become a greedy a-hole. (Sorry for personifying corporations. It's how I would say it conversationally.)

I've still not seen enough information to figure out if 20nm has any chance of being a real possibility for these cards. Here's to hoping.

Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama... :p

I love The Beach Boys, but I haaaaaate that song.
 

alcoholbob

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AMD doesnt need 20nm for this launch. Remember GloFlo 28nm has about 39% less leakage than TSMC 28nm so they can achieve some very low TDPs with Bermuda on 28nm along with the 50W reduction from using HBM.
 

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From the graphs posted that I see there, I don't see why people think AMD will convert Nvidia users in droves. GM200 just needs to be priced even at the same level as the 390x and it will outsell it with relative ease. If it beats the 390x to market, it doesn't seem like most will even care.

GM200 Full on the 4K charts pretty much is just slightly worse than the 390x.

Doesn't seem like much of a game changer to me in terms of converting users (obviously a game changer in terms of performance though, competition finally...)
 
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