Cheney Pushes For Military Action Against Iran Before End Of Term

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: palehorse74And those people will be left alone unless they actively take up arms against us.

see how this works?

Tell that to the Iraqis who haven't done anything yet still have their men dragged away in the middle of the night...

...by their own countrymen.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Although impeachment is unlikely, it may be the only way we can keep these crooks from launching yet another pre-emptive strike on a sovereign nation that poses no threat to our country.

You are mostly wrong.

The Iranian government most certainly "poses a threat to our country," Israel, and most of Europe as well. However, the key is determining whether or not there is enough of a threat to justify a military strike.

IMO, something needs to be done to end Iran's nuclear research and their violent meddling in Iraq and Afghanistan - but what that "something" is, I'm still not sure...

I sincerely hope that the world comes up with a solution that does not involve a military strike... but I have little faith in the world's ability to solve this mess politically.

Please, tell me how Iran poses a threat to Europe.

Do I need to break out the crayons and draw you a map with little circles on it depicting the range of Iran's missiles?

ok then... here ya go: Iran vs. Europe

So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

wow...simply wow.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

wow...simply wow.

I know, I was stunned, too, when I learned the truth.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

wow...simply wow.

I know, I was stunned, too, when I learned the truth.

The fact that this is what you think of our soldiers who are willing to die for your freedoms is just sad really. Im not referring to the Iraq war, I am just saying in general.

**Edit**

Its also kind of ironic that I am enlisting to fight for your right to call me a brainwashed murderer, and also to parade my name (if I am to die) around on a T-shirt.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Why not ask this marine?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

That depends...

1) Are you radioactive?

2) Do you directly support anti-western terrorist organizations?

3) Have you recently threatened to wipe another regime off of the map?

4) Are you taking your daily marching orders from God? or some other deity perhaps?

These are just some of the questions you must ask yourself in order to determine just how much of a threat you are to those within range of your person.

good luck!

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

wow...simply wow.

I know, I was stunned, too, when I learned the truth.

The fact that this is what you think of our soldiers who are willing to die for your freedoms is just sad really. Im not referring to the Iraq war, I am just saying in general.

It's not always a bad thing. When we're faced with a real threat, we don't want our soldiers asking a lot of questions on the front line when they should be pulling the trigger. They're paid to kill, not debate what is right or wrong.

Unfortunately, when their superiors abuse their power, our soldiers do evil work.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

wow...simply wow.

I know, I was stunned, too, when I learned the truth.

The fact that this is what you think of our soldiers who are willing to die for your freedoms is just sad really. Im not referring to the Iraq war, I am just saying in general.

**Edit**

Its also kind of ironic that I am enlisting to fight for your right to call me a brainwashed murderer, and also to parade my name (if I am to die) around on a T-shirt.

I think the sad thing is that they signed up to defend their country, but got sent off to attack someone else's.

I hope the same doesn't happen to you.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Why not ask this marine?

Are you Narmer? 😕

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
That depends...

1) Are you radioactive?

2) Do you directly support anti-western terrorist organizations?

3) Have you recently threatened to wipe another regime off of the map?

4) Are you taking your daily marching orders from God? or some other deity perhaps?

These are just some of the questions you must ask yourself in order to determine just how much of a threat you are to those within range of your person.

good luck!

I guess if GWB was answering those questions:

1) No.
2) Yes, before 9/11.
3) Yes, after 9/11.
4) Praise Jeeee-zus-ah!

So does 3 out of 4 make him a threat?

 

[Jaskalas]

Iran is actively at war supplying and supporting fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan. All the while developing nuclear technology, with aid from the same nuclear weapons deal Pakistan?s Dr. Khan gave North Korea and Libya. Tell me silverpig, how I might be doing that in my bedroom?

As for those 11 million fighters, they can:

1: Stop their government, and thus negate all reason for us to strike their government.

2: Not attack us when we go in to attack their government.

I would be repeating myself if I had to explain the necessity that comes from if they fail to comply and actively engage in war against us. In fact, I?ll have you explain it to us. There are enemy fighters killing our people in war, what should we do about it silverpig?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

ahhh, Ms. Fonda, is that you?

Go hug another suicide bomber.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

wow...simply wow.

I know, I was stunned, too, when I learned the truth.

The fact that this is what you think of our soldiers who are willing to die for your freedoms is just sad really. Im not referring to the Iraq war, I am just saying in general.

**Edit**

Its also kind of ironic that I am enlisting to fight for your right to call me a brainwashed murderer, and also to parade my name (if I am to die) around on a T-shirt.

I think the sad thing is that they signed up to defend their country, but got sent off to attack someone else's.

I hope the same doesn't happen to you.

**This is a general question, not referring to any current wars we are now fighting**

Do you feel also saddened since our soldiers in WWII were sent off to attack someone else's country too?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

That depends...

1) Are you radioactive?

2) Do you directly support anti-western terrorist organizations?

3) Have you recently threatened to wipe another regime off of the map?

4) Are you taking your daily marching orders from God? or some other deity perhaps?

These are just some of the questions you must ask yourself in order to determine just how much of a threat you are to those within range of your person.

good luck!

Who the hell needs missiles? Our border is wide open, drive their nuclear weapons in via truck.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Keep me out of the debate between you two. My focus is on PH's dumb assertions.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Keep me out of the debate between you two. My focus is on PH's dumb assertions.

Since you agreed with his absurd post in some respects, I was seeing if you agreed with the whole thing. But if you want to dodge the question then be my guest.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Brainwashed is pretty subjective...but as to the rest...

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

That depends...

1) Are you radioactive?

2) Do you directly support anti-western terrorist organizations?

3) Have you recently threatened to wipe another regime off of the map?

4) Are you taking your daily marching orders from God? or some other deity perhaps?

These are just some of the questions you must ask yourself in order to determine just how much of a threat you are to those within range of your person.

good luck!

Let's see: Bush is taking his marching orders from G-d ("there's a higher father I listen to")
Bush has threaten three regimes (iran, iraq, and north korea)
I don't know what you mean by radioactive.

As for the anti-western part, that is such a dumb and general categorization that you will need to refine it some more. I don't know of ANY terrorist organization that hates the entire western world, from Norway to Span, America to Greece. Be more specific.

Aside from Israel, I don't know of any country that Iran has "threatened". please enlighten me.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

That depends...

1) Are you radioactive?

2) Do you directly support anti-western terrorist organizations?

3) Have you recently threatened to wipe another regime off of the map?

4) Are you taking your daily marching orders from God? or some other deity perhaps?

These are just some of the questions you must ask yourself in order to determine just how much of a threat you are to those within range of your person.

good luck!

Congratulations, you just described Bush.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Brainwashed is pretty subjective...but as to the rest...

Phucked up.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Narmer
So. by your stupid logic, since Iraq, Pakistan, Georgia, and Russia are within range of Iran's missile, Iran poses a threat to those countries as well? Furthermore, since most nations missiles are within range of other nations, does that mean they pose a threat to them? This is by far the dumbest reason I've heard from anyone regarding threats. Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight.

Here's another analogy: Since I can travel anywhere in the world, does that mean I pose a threat to everyone I meet?

palehorse74 is using the same 5th-grade 'boogey-man' logic our military uses to indoctrinate their soldiers. How else do you get them to murder and maim tens of thousands of civilians in a sham war?

Yeah, his logic sounds very aggressive and dumb=bullying. I can't believe people have such dumb thoughts. By his analogy, we pose a threat to Canada and Mexico and vice-versa, therefore we shouldn't trust them.

Do you agree with Jpeyton's statement that our soldiers are brainwashed and are currently murdering 10's of thousands of civilians too?

Brainwashed is pretty subjective...but as to the rest...

Are you saying that the civilians that were killed were at the hands of the US military? From what I gathered from yours and mr. jpeytons posts is that you believe so.