Cheney Pushes For Military Action Against Iran Before End Of Term

Page 5 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

What does that make you?

Sorry my entire family including I support the U.S armed forces.

I've never wished for the death of anyone in our military or any civilians ever.

I post my theory on what will happen. I don't go yeee-hawww dead Iranians I will profit. Yee haw war time.. send in the troops .. I want a good t.v show to watch.

So unless you can prove otherwise how about you stfu?
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
76
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
25,375
142
116
Originally posted by: Nebor
Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)
:laugh:

Don't sprain your brain talking about world oil markets when you clearly know nothing about how they work.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
76
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.

They won't control crap after the first week of bombing runs.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.

They won't control crap after the first week of bombing runs.

So U.S bombing is going to do something never before done in the history of the world?

Take out 100% of Iran's military capabilities?

Amazing.
What video game do you play? I must know.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
25,375
142
116
my forums ---> Add Ignored User ---> Nebor

That's much better ;)

No sense in wasting our time arguing international politics with a child.
 
Jun 26, 2007
11,925
2
0
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.

I've seen you post several times that Iran controls the strait of homouz and i don't understand how you figure, explain it to me in short sentences that even i can understand.

Basically, Iran does NOT control the strait of Hormouz.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
76
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.

They won't control crap after the first week of bombing runs.

So U.S bombing is going to do something never before done in the history of the world?

Take out 100% of Iran's military capabilities?

Amazing.
What video game do you play? I must know.

Battlefield 2. God damn MEC....
 

nick1985

Lifer
Dec 29, 2002
27,153
6
81
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.

They won't control crap after the first week of bombing runs.

So U.S bombing is going to do something never before done in the history of the world?

Take out 100% of Iran's military capabilities?

Amazing.
What video game do you play? I must know.

Battlefield 2. God damn MEC....

srsly...the T-90!!!!

 
Jun 26, 2007
11,925
2
0
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you really believe that the Iranian military can stand up against the might of the US military, you are delusional. We'll see the most extensive bombing campaign in history. It will make shock and awe look like the 4th of July.

Iran is going to get pwned in the face.

So killing tens of thousands of civilians is good in your eyes?
You are nothing but a fanatical wacko.

Iran will just launch tens of thousands of rockets all over Israel and Baghdad and cut off the supply of oil from the M.E.

Don't be one of the people crying about $15/gallon oil prices when it happens.

I stand to profit substantially from further military engagements. I won't mind $15/gallon gasoline, but it'll never happen.

And all it'll cost is the lives a couple million Iranians.

You're the biggest coward on ATOT.

You wish for America to go to war. You don't care for the consequences.

You won't enroll to fight. You just want to profit and you are happy about it.

You are a sick individual.

& $15/gallon will happen if Iran shuts off the flow of oil from the M.E. It clearly sounds as if you have no idea what I am even talking about.. so... continue to dream.

I'm doing my best work for America right where I am.

Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)

country of OPEC?
Iran controls the strait of hormouz.

GO do your homework better.

They won't control crap after the first week of bombing runs.

Ah, the armchair generals, the ones who decided to go against the military recommendations on number of troops, the ones who thought that 20k that were supposed to act like tactical teams that haven't even been trained to do that would help.

I'm sure with a few more of you Al Quaida will be running the US in a decade.

Then you can project your power right up your arse.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
76
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nebor
Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)
:laugh:

Don't sprain your brain talking about world oil markets when you clearly know nothing about how they work.

I have an elementary understanding of oil markets (took a college course on the subject years ago) but I don't pretend to be able to explain them with much accuracy.

Iran is important, that's why the last straw with them is trying to convert to the yen.
 
Jun 26, 2007
11,925
2
0
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nebor
Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)
:laugh:

Don't sprain your brain talking about world oil markets when you clearly know nothing about how they work.

I have an elementary understanding of oil markets (took a college course on the subject years ago) but I don't pretend to be able to explain them with much accuracy.

Iran is important, that's why the last straw with them is trying to convert to the yen.

Iran is important to the US when it comes to oil exports?

Go take that class again and this time, make them present facts of this century.
 

imported_Tango

Golden Member
Mar 8, 2005
1,623
0
0
It's incredible to me how news as this one always provoke debate focusing on military issues. The issues are not those. Who cares about the Iranian air force or the missiles they have? The real issue is political and diplomatic.

If you US attacked Iran you'd have three immediate results:

1. Complete political isolation, with the exception of Israel, alienation of even long-time allies
2. Surge in terrorism against US targets
3. Long term economic effects on energy prices, increase in military and security expenditures

The US acted unilaterally in Iraq and caused one of the biggest political and military debacles of the country's history, severing relations that had been built in 50 years. This coupled with various terror attacks or attempted terror attacks around the world.

Attacking Iran with no reason at all will not only turn every single Muslim in the world against this country (and rightfully so), but alienate every single ally the US has now. No country in the world apart from Israel would ever condone something like this. People didn't like Saddam, and many countries in the area were in fact relieved to see the dictator gone. But this time it would be different: it would be a unilateral attack on a sovereign state.

People in Europe would start asking their governments to close US bases on their soil (they already did in a few) and the US would not only be severely hurt from an operational standpoint, but completely isolated from a diplomatic perspective. 50 years of good diplomatic relations with countries around the would would be wiped out in a month.

When 9/11 happened, the whole world was ready to stand with the US. The operations in Afghanistan didn't even raise an eyebrow around the world. 6 years later the picture is quite different because of Iraq. An attack on Iran would cause complete isolation. And the inevitable series of terror attacks on the US would attract very little sympathy. This time nobody would be allowed to ask "why do they hate us?" on the front pages of newspapers. And no matter how a military is strong, no country survives without allies. A unilateral way of thinking has always caused empires to eventually collapse.

And then there's the economic aftermath, which is not even imaginable.

The only good point is, not even this current administration is stupid enough to do something like this.
 
Jun 26, 2007
11,925
2
0
Economic isolation of Iran might be feasible for the US, for the EU it is NOT.

That would be like cutting off your oil supply from Canada.

It's not going to happen.

Tango is painting a picture that is about the exact thing that happened with Iraq due to US foreign policy.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
70,150
5
0
Originally posted by: Tango
It's incredible to me how news as this one always provoke debate focusing on military issues. The issues are not those. Who cares about the Iranian air force or the missiles they have? The real issue is political and diplomatic.

If you US attacked Iran you'd have three immediate results:

1. Complete political isolation, with the exception of Israel, alienation of even long-time allies
2. Surge in terrorism against US targets
3. Long term economic effects on energy prices, increase in military and security expenditures

The US acted unilaterally in Iraq and caused one of the biggest political and military debacles of the country's history, severing relations that had been built in 50 years. This coupled with various terror attacks or attempted terror attacks around the world.

Attacking Iran with no reason at all will not only turn every single Muslim in the world against this country (and rightfully so), but alienate every single ally the US has now. No country in the world apart from Israel would ever condone something like this. People didn't like Saddam, and many countries in the area were in fact relieved to see the dictator gone. But this time it would be different: it would be a unilateral attack on a sovereign state.

People in Europe would start asking their governments to close US bases on their soil (they already did in a few) and the US would not only be severely hurt from an operational standpoint, but completely isolated from a diplomatic perspective. 50 years of good diplomatic relations with countries around the would would be wiped out in a month.

When 9/11 happened, the whole world was ready to stand with the US. The operations in Afghanistan didn't even raise an eyebrow around the world. 6 years later the picture is quite different because of Iraq. An attack on Iran would cause complete isolation. And the inevitable series of terror attacks on the US would attract very little sympathy. This time nobody would be allowed to ask "why do they hate us?" on the front pages of newspapers. And no matter how a military is strong, no country survives without allies. A unilateral way of thinking has always caused empires to eventually collapse.

And then there's the economic aftermath, which is not even imaginable.

The only good point is, not even this current administration is stupid enough to do something like this.
Great post. The only part I don't entirely agree with is the last sentence. I would have said the same because to anybody with a mild sense of rationality everything you write is irrefutable. It would be a wildly insane move for the US to attack Iran. I still truly believe it will not happen, but that's not because of the lucidity of thought in the Bush administration (it has none), but rather that there are others in the government who can do their multiplications and say the alphabet and they have sway over what happens. I know that Bush is not as stupid as monkey. I think his intelligence is mildly above average (thinking 110 IQ absolute tops, and that's being very generous tonight) so perhaps he can see things from the correct perspective, but I have to believe his brain continues to be muddled from something--maybe it was the cocaine, I don't know. What I'm saying is I cannot be totally surprised by anything he does now. He's a loose cannon.

Chicken Little is running around these days but the sky is instead terrorism. Anything at all associated with it creates in many a knee-jerk reaction to do absolutely anything they can to combat it because they lack perspective of the world and just even the smallest semblance of a possibility that nukes would get into the hands of terrorists, when (I don't say if) Iran gains that power scares them to the point they cannot sleep at night because their life blood is fear of something and terrorism is the flavour of the day. Of course, when nukes get into the hands of Iran it will do absolutely nothing with them at all besides announce to the world it has them. At this point it will be impossible to invade. And if I was Iran I'd want them too with big bad Bush puffing at my house, so I can hardly blame them. On the other hand, since their president has expressed a desire to see Israel destroyed, I can't blame Israel for going on some bombing runs but the last thing the US wants to do is join in on this or even publically approve of it.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
76
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nebor
Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)
:laugh:

Don't sprain your brain talking about world oil markets when you clearly know nothing about how they work.

I have an elementary understanding of oil markets (took a college course on the subject years ago) but I don't pretend to be able to explain them with much accuracy.

Iran is important, that's why the last straw with them is trying to convert to the yen.

Iran is important to the US when it comes to oil exports?

Go take that class again and this time, make them present facts of this century.

Iran is important. But like I said, losing their oil isn't going to totally screw us.
 

wirelessenabled

Platinum Member
Feb 5, 2001
2,190
41
91
Originally posted by: SickBeast

Um, ok, who did the US attack from say 1820 to 1940? What kinds of 'imperialism' did they engage in?

Stolen from Wikipedia

1820-1829

1820-23 -- Africa. Naval units raided the slave traffic pursuant to the 1819 act of Congress. [RL30172][Slave Traffic]

1822 -- Cuba. United States naval forces suppressing piracy landed on the northwest coast of Cuba and burned a pirate station.[RL30172]

1823 -- Cuba. Brief landings in pursuit of pirates occurred April 8 near Escondido; April 16 near Cayo Blanco; July 11 at Siquapa Bay; July 21 at Cape Cruz; and October 23 at Camrioca.[RL30172]

1824 -- Cuba. In October the USS Porpoise landed bluejackets near Matanzas in pursuit of pirates. This was during the cruise authorized in 1822.[RL30172]

1824 -- Puerto Rico (Spanish territory). Commodore David Porter with a landing party attacked the town of Fajardo which had sheltered pirates and insulted American naval officers. He landed with 200 men in November and forced an apology. Commodore Porter was later court-martialed for overstepping his powers.[RL30172]

1825 -- Cuba. In March cooperating American and British forces landed at Sagua La Grande to capture pirates.[RL30172]

1827 -- Greece. In October and November landing parties hunted pirates on the Mediterranean islands of Argenteire, Miconi, and Androse.[RL30172]

[edit] 1830-1839

1831-32 ? Falkland Islands. Captain Duncan of the USS Lexington investigated the capture of three American sealing vessels and sought to protect American interests.[RL30172]

1832 ? Sumatra. (Indonesia) - February 6 to 9. A naval force landed and stormed a fort to punish natives of the town of Quallah Battoo for plundering the American ship Friendship.[RL30172]

1833 -- Argentina. - October 31 to November 15. A force was sent ashore at Buenos Aires to protect the interests of the United States and other countries during an insurrection.[RL30172]

1835-36 -- Peru. - December 10, 1835, to January 24, 1836, and August 31 to December 7, 1836. Marines protected American interests in Callao and Lima during an attempted revolution.[RL30172]

1836 -- Mexico. General Gaines occupied Nacogdoches (Texas), disputed territory, from July to December during the Texan war for independence, under orders to cross the "imaginary boundary line" if an Indian outbreak threatened.[RL30172]

1838 - The Caroline Affair on Navy Island, Canada. After the failure of the Upper Canada Rebellion of 1837 favoring Canadian democracy and independence from the British Empire; William Lyon Mackenzie and his rebels fled to Navy Island where they declared the Republic of Canada. American sympathizers sent supplies on the S.S. Caroline, which was intercepted by the British and set ablaze, after killing one American. It was falsely reported that dozens of Americans were killed as they were trapped on board, and American forces retaliated by burning a British steamer while it was in US waters.

1838-39 ? Sumatra (Indonesia). - December 24, 1838, to January 4, 1839. A naval force landed to punish natives of the towns of Quallah Battoo and Muckie (Mukki) for depredations on American shipping.[RL30172]

[edit] 1840-1849

1840 -- Fiji Islands. - July. Naval forces landed to punish natives for attacking American exploring and surveying parties.[RL30172]

1841 -- Drummond Island, Kingsmill Group (Pacific Ocean). A naval party landed to avenge the murder of a seaman by the natives.[RL30172]

1841 ? Samoa. - February 24. A naval party landed and burned towns after the murder of an American seaman on Upolu Island.[RL30172]

1842 -- Mexico. Commodore T.A.C. Jones, in command of a squadron long cruising off California, occupied Monterey, Calif., on October 19, believing war had come. He discovered peace, withdrew, and saluted. A similar incident occurred a week later at San Diego.[RL30172]

1843 -- China. Sailors and marines from the St. Louis were landed after a clash between Americans and Chinese at the trading post in Canton.[RL30172]

1843 -- Africa. - November 29 to December 16. Four United States vessels demonstrated and landed various parties (one of 200 marines and sailors) to discourage piracy and the slave trade along the Ivory Coast, and to punish attacks by the natives on American seamen and shipping.[RL30172]

1844 -- Mexico. President Tyler deployed US forces to protect Texas against Mexico, pending Senate approval of a treaty of annexation. (Later rejected.) He defended his action against a Senate resolution of inquiry.[RL30172]

1846-48 -- Mexican-American War After the annexation of Texas in 1845, the United States and Mexico failed to resolve a boundary dispute and President Polk said that it was necessary to deploy forces in Mexico to meet a threatened invasion. On May 13,1846, declared war with Mexico.[RL30172]

1849 ? Smyrna (Izmir, Turkey). In July a naval force gained release of an American seized by Austrian officials.[RL30172]

[edit] 1850-1859

1851 -- Turkey. After a massacre of foreigners (including Americans) at Jaffa in January, a demonstration by the Mediterranean Squadron was ordered along the Turkish (Levant) coast.[RL30172]

1851 -- Johanns Island (east of Africa). - August. Forces from the US sloop of war Dale exacted redress for the unlawful imprisonment of the captain of an American whaling brig.[RL30172]

1852-53 -- Argentina. - February 3 to 12, 1852; September 17, 1852 to April 1853. Marines were landed and maintained in Buenos Aires to protect American interests during a revolution.[RL30172]

1853 -- Nicaragua. - March 11 to 13. US forces landed to protect American lives and interests during political disturbances.[RL30172]

1853-54 -- Japan. Commodore Matthew Perry and his expedition made a display of force leading to the "opening of Japan."[RL30172]

1853-54 -- Ryukyu and Bonin Islands (Japan). Commodore Matthew Perry on three visits before going to Japan and while waiting for a reply from Japan made a naval demonstration, landing marines twice, and secured a coaling concession from the ruler of Naha on Okinawa; he also demonstrated in the Bonin Islands with the purpose of securing facilities for commerce.[RL30172]

1854 -- China. - April 4 to June 15 to 17. American and English ships landed forces to protect American interests in and near Shanghai during Chinese civil strife.[RL30172]

1854 -- Nicaragua. - July 9 to 15. Naval forces bombarded and burned San Juan del Norte (Greytown) to avenge an insult to the American Minister to Nicaragua.[RL30172]

1855 -- China. - May 19 to 21. US forces protected American interests in Shanghai and, from August 3 to 5 fought pirates near Hong Kong.[RL30172]

1855 -- Fiji Islands. - September 12 to November 4. An American naval force landed to seek reparations for attacks on American residents and seamen.[RL30172]

1855 -- Uruguay. - November 25 to 29. United States and European naval forces landed to protect American interests during an attempted revolution in Montevideo.[RL30172]

1856 -- Panama, Republic of New Grenada. - September 19 to 22. US forces landed to protect American interests during an insurrection.[RL30172]

1856 -- China. - October 22 to December 6. US forces landed to protect American interests at Canton during hostilities between the British and the Chinese, and to avenge an assault upon an unarmed boat displaying the United States flag.[RL30172]

1857-58 -- Utah War. The Utah War was a dispute between Mormon settlers in Utah Territory and the United States federal government. The Mormons and Washington each sought control over the government of the territory, with the national government victorious. The confrontation between the Mormon militia and the U.S. Army involved some destruction of property, but no actual battles between the contending military forces. More than 100 civilians were killed, however, in the Mountain Meadows massacre, which was a massacre of California-bound settlers from Arkansas by Mormon militia and Paiutes.

1857 -- Nicaragua. - April to May, November to December. In May Commander Charles H. Davis of the United States Navy, with some marines, received the surrender of William Walker, self proclaimed president of Nicaragua, who was losing control of the country to forces financed by his former business partner, Cornelius Vanderbilt, and protected his men from the retaliation of native allies who had been fighting Walker. In November and December of the same year United States vessels USS Saratoga, USS Wabash, and Fulton opposed another attempt of William Walker on Nicaragua. Commodore Hiram Paulding's act of landing marines and compelling the removal of Walker to the United States, was tacitly disavowed by Secretary of State Lewis Cass, and Paulding was forced into retirement.[RL30172]

1858 -- Uruguay. - January 2 to 27. Forces from two United States warships landed to protect American property during a revolution in Montevideo.[RL30172]

1858 -- Fiji Islands. - October 6 to 16. A marine expedition with the USS Vandalia enacted revenge on natives for the murder of two American citizens at Waya.[RL30172] [] [Vandalia 2]

1858-59 -- Turkey. The Secretary of State requested a display of naval force along the Levant after a massacre of Americans at Jaffa and mistreatment elsewhere "to remind the authorities (of Turkey) of the power of the United States."[RL30172]

1859 -- Paraguay. Congress authorized a naval squadron to seek redress for an attack on a naval vessel in the Parana River during 1855. Apologies were made after a large display of force.[RL30172]

1859 -- Mexico. Two hundred United States soldiers crossed the Rio Grande in pursuit of the Mexican bandit Juan Cortina.[RL30172] [1859 Mexico]

1859 -- China. - July 31 to August 2. A naval force landed to protect American interests in Shanghai.[RL30172]

[edit] 1860-1869

1860 -- Angola, Portuguese West Africa. - March 1. American residents at Kissembo called upon American and British ships to protect lives and property during problems with natives.[RL30172]

1860 -- Colombia, Bay of Panama. - September 27 to October 8. Naval forces landed to protect American interests during a revolution.[RL30172]

1861-65 -- American Civil War A major war between the United States (the "Union") and eleven Southern slave states which declared that they had a right to secession and formed the Confederate States of America,

1863 -- Japan. - July 16. The USS Wyoming retaliated against a firing on the American vessel Pembroke at Shimonoseki.[RL30172]

1864 -- Japan.- July 14 to August 3. Naval forces protected the United States Minister to Japan when he visited Yedo to negotiate concerning some American claims against Japan, and to make his negotiations easier by impressing the Japanese with American power.[RL30172]

1864 -- Japan. - September 4 to 14. Naval forces of the United States, Great Britain, France, and the Netherlands compelled Japan and the Prince of Nagato in particular to permit the Straits of Shimonoseki to be used by foreign shipping in accordance with treaties already signed.[RL30172]

1865 -- Panama. - March 9 and 10. US forces protected the lives and property of American residents during a revolution.[RL30172]

1866 -- Mexico. To protect American residents, General Sedgwick and 100 men in November obtained surrender of Matamoros, on the border State of Tamaulipas. After three days he was ordered by US Government to withdraw. His act was repudiated by the President.[RL30172]

1866 -- China. From June 20 to July 7, US forces punished an assault on the American consul at Newchwang.[RL30172]

1867 -- Nicaragua. Marines occupied Managua and Leon.1865-77 -- Post Civil War Reconstruction

1867 -- Formosa (island of Taiwan) - June 13. A naval force landed and burned a number of huts to punish the murder of the crew of a wrecked American vessel.1865-77 -- Post Civil War Reconstruction

1868 -- Japan (Osaka, Hiolo, Nagasaki, Yokohama, and Negata). - February 4 to 8, April 4 to May 12, June 12 and 13. US forces were landed to protect American interests during the civil war in Japan.[RL30172]

1868 -- Uruguay. - February 7 and 8, 19 to 26. US forces protected foreign residents and the customhouse during an insurrection at Montevideo.[RL30172]

1868 -- Colombia. - April. US forces protected passengers and treasure in transit at Aspinwall during the absence of local police or troops on the occasion of the death of the President of Colombia.[RL30172]

[edit] 1870-1879

1870 -- Mexico. - June 17 and 18. US forces destroyed the pirate ship Forward, which had been run aground about 40 miles up the Rio Tecapan.[RL30172]

1870 -- Hawaiian Islands. - September 21. US forces placed the American flag at half mast upon the death of Queen Kalama, when the American consul at Honolulu would not assume responsibility for so doing.[RL30172]

1871 -- Korea. Shinmiyangyo Battle in Korea - June 10 to 12. A US naval force attacked and captured five forts to punish natives for depredations on Americans, particularly for murdering the crew of the General Sherman and burning the schooner, and for later firing on other American small boats taking soundings up the Salee River.[RL30172]

1873 -- Colombia (Bay of Panama). - May 7 to 22, September 23 to October 9. U.S. forces protected American interests during hostilities between local groups over control of the government of the State of Panama.[RL30172]

1873-96 -- Mexico. United States troops crossed the Mexican border repeatedly in pursuit of cattle and other thieves and other brigands.[RL30172]

1874 -- Hawaiian Islands. - February 12 to 20. Detachments from American vessels were landed to preserve order and protect American lives and interests during the coronation of a new king.[RL30172]

1876 -- Mexico. - May 18. An American force was landed to police the town of Matamoros, Tamaulipas State, temporarily while it was without other government.[RL30172]

[edit] 1880-1889

1882 -- Egypt. - July 14 to 18. American forces landed to protect American interests during warfare between British and Egyptians and looting of the city of Alexandria by Arabs.[RL30172]

1885 -- Panama (Colon). - January 18 and 19. US forces were used to guard the valuables in transit over the Panama Railroad, and the safes and vaults of the company during revolutionary activity. In March, April, and May in the cities of Colon and Panama, the forces helped reestablish freedom of transit during revolutionary activity.[RL30172]

1888 -- Korea. - June. A naval force was sent ashore to protect American residents in Seoul during unsettled political conditions, when an outbreak of the populace was expected.[RL30172]

1888 -- Haiti. - December 20. A display of force persuaded the Haitian Government to give up an American steamer which had been seized on the charge of breach of blockade.[RL30172]

1888-89 -- Samoa. - November 14, 1888, to March 20, 1889. US forces were landed to protect American citizens and the consulate during a native civil war.[RL30172]

1889 -- Hawaiian Islands. - July 30 and 31. US forces protected American interests at Honolulu during a revolution.[RL30172]

[edit] 1890-1899

1890 -- Argentina. A naval party landed to protect US consulate and legation in Buenos Aires.[RL30172]

1891 -- Haiti. US forces sought to protect American lives and property on Navassa Island.[RL30172]

1891 -- Bering Strait. - July 2 to October 5. Naval forces sought to stop seal poaching.[RL30172]

1891 -- Chile. - August 28 to 30. US forces protected the American consulate and the women and children who had taken refuge in it during a revolution in Valparaiso.[RL30172]

1893 -- Hawaii. - January 16 to April 1. Marines were landed ostensibly to protect American lives and property, but many believed actually to promote a provisional government under Sanford B. Dole. This action was disavowed by the United States.[RL30172]

1894 -- Brazil. - January. A display of naval force sought to protect American commerce and shipping at Rio de Janeiro during a Brazilian civil war.[RL30172]

1894 -- Nicaragua. - July 6 to August 7. US forces sought to protect American interests at Bluefields following a revolution.[RL30172]

1894-95 -- China. Marines were stationed at Tientsin and penetrated to Peking for protection purposes during the First Sino-Japanese War.[RL30172]

1894-95 -- China. A naval vessel was beached and used as a fort at Newchwang for protection of American nationals.[RL30172]

1894-96 -- Korea. - July 24, 1894 to April 3, 1896. A guard of marines was sent to protect the American legation and American lives and interests at Seoul during and following the Sino-Japanese War.[RL30172]

1895 -- Colombia. - March 8 to 9. US forces protected American interests during an attack on the town of Bocas del Toro by a bandit chieftain.[RL30172]

1895-96 -- Venezuela. - Settlement of boundary dispute.[citation needed]

1896 -- Nicaragua. - May 2 to 4. US forces protected American interests in Corinto during political unrest.[RL30172]

1898 -- Nicaragua. - February 7 and 8. US forces protected American lives and property at San Juan del Sur.[RL30172]

1898 -- Spanish-American War On April 25, 1898, the United States declared war with Spain. The war followed a Cuban insurrection, the Cuban War of Independence against Spanish rule and the sinking of the USS Maine in the harbor at Havana.[RL30172]

1898-99 -- Samoa. Second Samoan Civil War a conflict that reached a head in 1898 when Germany, the United Kingdom, and the United States were locked in dispute over who should have control over the Samoan island chain.

1898-99 -- China. - November 5, 1898 to March 15, 1899. US forces provided a guard for the legation at Peking and the consulate at Tientsin during contest between the Dowager Empress and her son.[RL30172]

1899 -- Nicaragua. American and British naval forces were landed to protect national interests at San Juan del Norte, February 22 to March 5, and at Bluefields a few weeks later in connection with the insurrection of Gen. Juan P. Reyes.[RL30172]

1899-1913 -- Philippine Islands. Philippine-American War US forces protected American interests following the war with Spain, defeating rebellious Filipinos seeking immediate national independence.[RL30172] The U.S. government declared the ?insurgency? officially over in 1902, when the Filipino leadership generally accepted American rule. Skirmishes between government troops and armed groups lasted until 1913, and some historians consider these unofficial extensions of the war.[2]

[edit] 1900-1909

1900 -- China. - May 24 to September 28. Boxer Rebellion American troops participated in operations to protect foreign lives during the Boxer rising, particularly at Peking. For many years after this experience a permanent legation guard was maintained in Peking, and was strengthened at times as trouble threatened.[RL30172]

1901 -- Colombia (State of Panama). - November 20 to December 4. Panamanian Revolution US forces protected American property on the Isthmus and kept transit lines open during serious revolutionary disturbances.[RL30172]

1902 -- Colombia. - April 16 to 23. US forces protected American lives and property at Bocas del Toro during a civil war.[RL30172]

1902 -- Colombia (State of Panama). - September 17 to November 18. The United States placed armed guards on all trains crossing the Isthmus to keep the railroad line open, and stationed ships on both sides of Panama to prevent the landing of Colombian troops.[RL30172]

1903 -- Honduras. - March 23 to 30 or 31. US forces protected the American consulate and the steamship wharf at Puerto Cortes during a period of revolutionary activity.[RL30172]

1903 -- Dominican Republic. - March 30 to April 21. A detachment of marines was landed to protect American interests in the city of Santo Domingo during a revolutionary outbreak.[RL30172]

1903 -- Syria. - September 7 to 12. US forces protected the American consulate in Beirut when a local Moslem uprising was feared.[RL30172]

1903-04 -- Abyssinia (Ethiopia). Twenty-five marines were sent to Abyssinia to protect the US Consul General while he negotiated a treaty.[RL30172]

1903-14 -- Panama. US forces sought to protect American interests and lives during and following the revolution for independence from Colombia over construction of the Isthmian Canal. With brief intermissions, United States Marines were stationed on the Isthmus from November 4, 1903, to January 21, 1914 to guard American interests.[RL30172]

1904 -- Dominican Republic. - January 2 to February 11. American and British naval forces established an area in which no fighting would be allowed and protected American interests in Puerto Plata and Sosua and Santo Domingo City during revolutionary fighting.[RL30172]

1904 -- Tangier, Morocco. "We want either Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead." A squadron demonstrated to force release of a kidnapped American. Marines were landed to protect the consul general.[RL30172]

1904 -- Panama. - November 17 to 24. US forces protected American lives and property at Ancon at the time of a threatened insurrection.[RL30172]

1904-05 -- Korea. - January 5, 1904, to November 11, 1905. A guard of Marines was sent to protect the American legation in Seoul during the Russo-Japanese War.[RL30172]

1906-09 -- Cuba. - September 1906 to January 23, 1909. US forces sought to protect interests and re-establish a government after revolutionary activity.[RL30172]

1907 -- Honduras. - March 18 to June 8. To protect American interests during a war between Honduras and Nicaragua, troops were stationed in Trujillo, Ceiba, Puerto Cortes, San Pedro Sula, Laguna and Choloma.[RL30172]

1910 -- Nicaragua. - May 19 to September 4, 1910. Occupation of Nicaragua US forces protected American interests at Bluefields.[RL30172]

[edit] 1910-1919

1911 -- Honduras. - January 26. American naval detachments were landed to protect American lives and interests during a civil war in Honduras.[RL30172]

1911 -- China. As the nationalist revolution approached, in October an ensign and 10 men tried to enter Wuchang to rescue missionaries but retired on being warned away, and a small landing force guarded American private property and consulate at Hankow. Marines were deployed in November to guard the cable stations at Shanghai; landing forces were sent for protection in Nanking, Chinkiang, Taku and elsewhere.[RL30172]

1912 -- Honduras. A small force landed to prevent seizure by the government of an American-owned railroad at Puerto Cortes. The forces were withdrawn after the United States disapproved the action.[RL30172]

1912 -- Panama. Troops, on request of both political parties, supervised elections outside the Canal Zone.[RL30172]

1912 -- Cuba. - June 5 to August 5. US forces protected American interests on the Province of Oriente, and in Havana.[RL30172]

1912 -- China. - August 24 to 26, on Kentucky Island, and August 26 to 30 at Camp Nicholson. US forces protected Americans and American interests during revolutionary activity.[RL30172]

1912 -- Turkey. - November 18 to December 3. US forces guarded the American legation at Constantinople during a Balkan War.[RL30172]

1912-25 -- Nicaragua. - August to November 1912. US forces protected American interests during an attempted revolution. A small force, serving as a legation guard and seeking to promote peace and stability, remained until August 5, 1925.[RL30172]

1912-41 -- China. The disorders which began with the overthrow of the dynasty during Kuomintang rebellion in 1912, which were redirected by the invasion of China by Japan, led to demonstrations and landing parties for the protection of US interests in China continuously and at many points from 1912 on to 1941. The guard at Peking and along the route to the sea was maintained until 1941. In 1927, the United States had 5,670 troops ashore in China and 44 naval vessels in its waters. In 1933 the United States had 3,027 armed men ashore. The protective action was generally based on treaties with China concluded from 1858 to 1901.[RL30172]

1913 -- Mexico. - September 5 to 7. A few marines landed at Ciaris Estero to aid in evacuating American citizens and others from the Yaqui Valley, made dangerous for foreigners by civil strife.[RL30172]

1914 -- Haiti.- January 29 to February 9, February 20 to 21, October 19. Intermittently US naval forces protected American nationals in a time of rioting and revolution.[RL30172]

1914 -- Dominican Republic. - June and July. During a revolutionary movement, United States naval forces by gunfire stopped the bombardment of Puerto Plata, and by threat of force maintained Santo Domingo City as a neutral zone.[RL30172]

1914-17 -- Mexico. Tampico Affair led to Occupation of Veracruz, Mexico. Undeclared Mexican--American hostilities followed the Dolphin affair and Villa's raids . Also Pancho Villa Expedition) -- an abortive military operation conducted by the United States Army against the military forces of Francisco "Pancho" Villa from 1916 to 1917. and included capture of Vera Cruz. On March 19, 1915 on orders from President Woodrow Wilson, General John J. Pershing led an invasion force of 10,000 men into Mexico to capture Villa.

1915-34 -- Haiti. - July 28, 1915, to August 15, 1934. United States occupation of Haiti 1915-1934 US forces maintained order during a period of chronic political instability.[RL30172]

1913 -- Mexico. - September 5 to 7. A few marines landed at Ciaris Estero to aid in evacuating American citizens and others from the Yaqui Valley, made dangerous for foreigners by civil strife.[RL30172]

1914 -- Haiti.- January 29 to February 9, February 20 to 21, October 19. Intermittently US naval forces protected American nationals in a time of rioting and revolution.[RL30172]

1914 -- Dominican Republic. - June and July. During a revolutionary movement, United States naval forces by gunfire stopped the bombardment of Puerto Plata, and by threat of force maintained Santo Domingo City as a neutral zone.[RL30172]

1914-17 -- Mexico. Undeclared Mexican--American hostilities followed the Dolphin affair and Villa's raids and included capture of Vera Cruz and later Pershing's expedition into northern Mexico.[RL30172]

1915-34 -- Haiti. - July 28, 1915, to August 15, 1934. US forces maintained order during a period of chronic political instability.[RL30172]

1916 -- China. American forces landed to quell a riot taking place on American property in Nanking.[RL30172]

1916-24 -- Dominican Republic. - May 1916 to September 1924. Occupation of the Dominican Republic American naval forces maintained order during a period of chronic and threatened insurrection.[RL30172]

1917 -- China. American troops were landed at Chungking to protect American lives during a political crisis.[RL30172]

1917-18 -- World War I. On April 6, 1917, the United States declared war with Germany and on December 7, 1917, with Austria-Hungary. Entrance of the United States into the war was precipitated by Germany's submarine warfare against neutral shipping.[RL30172]

1917-22 -- Cuba. US forces protected American interests during insurrection and subsequent unsettled conditions. Most of the United States armed forces left Cuba by August 1919, but two companies remained at Camaguey until February 1922.[RL30172]

1918-19 -- Mexico. After withdrawal of the Pershing expedition, US troops entered Mexico in pursuit of bandits at least three times in 1918 and six times in 1919. In August 1918 American and Mexican troops fought at Nogales.[RL30172]

1918-20 -- Panama. US forces were used for police duty according to treaty stipulations, at Chiriqui, during election disturbances and subsequent unrest.[RL30172]

1918-20 -- Soviet Union. Marines were landed at and near Vladivostok in June and July to protect the American consulate and other points in the fighting between the Bolshevik troops and the Czech Army which had traversed Siberia from the western front. A joint proclamation of emergency government and neutrality was issued by the American, Japanese, British, French, and Czech commanders in July. In August 7,000 men were landed in Vladivostok and remained until January 1920, as part of an allied occupation force. In September 1918, 5,000 American troops joined the allied intervention force at Archangel and remained until June 1919. These operations were in response to the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and were partly supported by Czarist or Kerensky elements. [RL30172] For details, see Polar Bear Expedition.

1919 -- Dalmatia (Croatia). US forces were landed at Trau at the request of Italian authorities to police order between the Italians and Serbs.[RL30172]

1919 -- Turkey. Marines from the USS Arizona were landed to guard the US Consulate during the Greek occupation of Constantinople.[RL30172]

1919 -- Honduras. - September 8 to 12. A landing force was sent ashore to maintain order in a neutral zone during an attempted revolution.[RL30172]

[edit] 1920-1929

1920 -- China. - March 14. A landing force was sent ashore for a few hours to protect lives during a disturbance at Kiukiang.[RL30172]

1920 -- Guatemala. - April 9 to 27. US forces protected the American Legation and other American interests, such as the cable station, during a period of fighting between Unionists and the Government of Guatemala.[RL30172]

1920-22 -- Russia (Siberia). - February 16, 1920, to November 19, 1922. A Marine guard was sent to protect the United States radio station and property on Russian Island, Bay of Vladivostok.[RL30172]

1921 -- Panama - Costa Rica. American naval squadrons demonstrated in April on both sides of the Isthmus to prevent war between the two countries over a boundary dispute.[RL30172]

1922 -- Turkey. - September and October. A landing force was sent ashore with consent of both Greek and Turkish authorities, to protect American lives and property when the Turkish Nationalists entered Smyrna.[RL30172]

1922-23 -- China. Between April 1922 and November 1923, marines were landed five times to protect Americans during periods of unrest.[RL30172]

1924 -- Honduras. - February 28 to March 31, September 10 to 15. US forces protected American lives and interests during election hostilities.[RL30172]

1924 -- China. - September. Marines were landed to protect Americans and other foreigners in Shanghai during Chinese factional hostilities.[RL30172]

1925 -- China. - January 15 to August 29. Fighting of Chinese factions accompanied by riots and demonstrations in Shanghai brought the landing of American forces to protect lives and property in the International Settlement.[RL30172]

1925 -- Honduras. - April 19 to 21. US forces protected foreigners at La Ceiba during a political upheaval.[RL30172]

1925 -- Panama. - October 12 to 23. Strikes and rent riots led to the landing of about 600 American troops to keep order and protect American interests. [RL30172]

1926-33 -- Nicaragua. - May 7 to June 5, 1926; August 27, 1926, to January 3, 1933. The coup d'etat of General Chamorro aroused revolutionary activities leading to the landing of American marines to protect the interests of the United States. United States forces came and went intermittently until January 3, 1933.[RL30172]

1926 -- China. - August and September. The Nationalist attack on Hankow brought the landing of American naval forces to protect American citizens. A small guard was maintained at the consulate general even after September 16, when the rest of the forces were withdrawn. Likewise, when Nationalist forces captured Kiukiang, naval forces were landed for the protection of foreigners November 4 to 6.[RL30172]

1927 -- China. - February. Fighting at Shanghai caused American naval forces and marines to be increased. In March a naval guard was stationed at American consulate at Nanking after Nationalist forces captured the city. American and British destroyers later used shell fire to protect Americans and other foreigners. Subsequently additional forces of marines and naval forces were stationed in the vicinity of Shanghai and Tientsin.[RL30172]

[edit] 1930-1939

1932 -- China. American forces were landed to protect American interests during the Japanese occupation of Shanghai.[RL30172]

1933 -- Cuba. During a revolution against President Gerardo Machado naval forces demonstrated but no landing was made.[RL30172]

1934 -- China. Marines landed at Foochow to protect the American Consulate.[RL30172]
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
25,375
142
116
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Iran is important. But like I said, losing their oil isn't going to totally screw us.
:roll:

Should I fill in the blanks for you kiddo?

We don't set oil prices, the market does. War with Iran will cause huge spikes in oil prices; doesn't matter if that oil is being pumped in Iraq, Canada, or in the US.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
29,582
12
76
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Iran is important. But like I said, losing their oil isn't going to totally screw us.
:roll:

Should I fill in the blanks for you kiddo?

We don't set oil prices, the market does. War with Iran will cause huge spikes in oil prices; doesn't matter if that oil is being pumped in Iraq, Canada, or in the US.

I'm just saying we won't see $15\gallon gas.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
18,161
7
0
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I'll tell you this: if we attack Iran I'm on their side. I will loudly applaud every casualty they inflict upon us. If they sink our ships I'll throw a party. If they bring the world together against us I'll weep with joy. This administration MUST be stopped cold, and if it takes the deaths of a million Americans to wake us up to that fact and keep idiots like this out of power then so be it.
Ding ding ding...and ANOTHER new low hit on P&N!! Seriously though, I doubt this one can be topped (bottomed). Bravo /golf clap...

Why don't you just start assassinating neocons like you said a few posts ago?

You are one seriously mentally unstable person.
I am going to totally agree with alchemize on this one.
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
14,377
19
81
Originally posted by: wirelessenabled
Originally posted by: SickBeast

Um, ok, who did the US attack from say 1820 to 1940? What kinds of 'imperialism' did they engage in?

Stolen from Wikipedia

1820-1829

1820-23 -- Africa. Naval units raided the slave traffic pursuant to the 1819 act of Congress. [RL30172][Slave Traffic]

1822 -- Cuba. United States naval forces suppressing piracy landed on the northwest coast of Cuba and burned a pirate station.[RL30172]

1823 -- Cuba. Brief landings in pursuit of pirates...


Etc etc etc etc ad-nauseum.
:Q

Those poor Cubans!
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
18,161
7
0
Originally posted by: Tango
If you US attacked Iran you'd have three immediate results:

1. Complete political isolation, with the exception of Israel, alienation of even long-time allies
2. Surge in terrorism against US targets
3. Long term economic effects on energy prices, increase in military and security expenditures.
1. So our allies from who we buy billions of dollars worth of goods are going to turn their backs on us and side with Iran? You?re joking right? Sure they might not be happy, but I doubt they are going to do anything public about it. (Besides I am sure we will see some sort of justification for any attack.)

2. We might see a surge, but it would most likely be carried about Iranian allies such as Hezbollah and Hamas. Beyond that, anyone who wants to hate us already does hate us and doesn?t need any more justification.

3. I?ll give you this one, although it is hard to tell how ?long term? such affects will be.
 
Jun 26, 2007
11,925
2
0
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nebor
Most of our oil comes from Canada or right here in the US. One country of OPEC shutting off their only flow of income isn't going to totally screw us. I promise. ;)
:laugh:

Don't sprain your brain talking about world oil markets when you clearly know nothing about how they work.

I have an elementary understanding of oil markets (took a college course on the subject years ago) but I don't pretend to be able to explain them with much accuracy.

Iran is important, that's why the last straw with them is trying to convert to the yen.

Iran is important to the US when it comes to oil exports?

Go take that class again and this time, make them present facts of this century.

Iran is important. But like I said, losing their oil isn't going to totally screw us.

No it is not, the US imports basically no oil what so ever from Iran.

The EU though...

You think the EU would have it's second most profitable oil supplier go down under US attacks without helping them?

They are buying loads of EU military equipment, it's kinda like when the US just stopped declaring Iraq as a rouge nation and therefore could expert the chemicals to them (i'll never forget how they expressed horror about how they used those chemicals to make chemical weapons).

The US and before the Soviet Union have pretty much an equal part in the shitstorm we are currently in, the EU doesn't have a joint defense force system at all yet, it's so far from a superpower that the US can just laugh right now.

The US will not do shiat about Iran, that is a promise i can make, i'm willing to bet my car on that.
 
Jun 26, 2007
11,925
2
0
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Iran is important. But like I said, losing their oil isn't going to totally screw us.
:roll:

Should I fill in the blanks for you kiddo?

We don't set oil prices, the market does. War with Iran will cause huge spikes in oil prices; doesn't matter if that oil is being pumped in Iraq, Canada, or in the US.

I'm just saying we won't see $15\gallon gas.

1. Please do so i can ridicule you for them

2. Nope, because Iran is not a country that is important to the US kiddo but it is important to the EU and the US doesn't DOES NOT want to fuck with the EU right now.

Which was my entire point you man of lesser knowledge.