cheney indicted

[OBLAMA2009]

Bribery is a very serious crime.

And what crimes has julian assange commited? The fact that you don't like him does not make what he has done illegal.

did they put anyone is prison for leaking the pentagon papers or for leaking info about watergate??

 

[BurnItDwn]

did they put anyone is prison for leaking the pentagon papers or for leaking info about watergate??

Leaking and publishing are different.

Also, Asange is not in the USA, and not an American, so I'm not quite sure of which US laws he's broken.

Pentagon papers being released show the people of the country that they could not trust their government. While it was embarrassing for the administration, it was good that it was released. And watergate, again, good that the info was leaked. While I may trust the government with my tax dollars, I don't trust them enough to believe they should be allowed to keep so many secrets from me. We should have a full disclosure and honesty policy for all matters of government.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Leaking and publishing are different.

Also, Asange is not in the USA, and not an American, so I'm not quite sure of which US laws he's broken.

Pentagon papers being released show the people of the country that they could not trust their government. While it was embarrassing for the administration, it was good that it was released. And watergate, again, good that the info was leaked. While I may trust the government with my tax dollars, I don't trust them enough to believe they should be allowed to keep so many secrets from me. We should have a full disclosure and honesty policy for all matters of government.

i think i agree. lying to start a war and getting hundreds of thousands of people killed/injured. now THAT is a serious crime

 

[Lemon law]

Well, someone had to be tye first to indict Cheney. Now that its a precident everyone better fight to get in second dibs on the rascal.

 

[Michael]

Blackjack200 - The FCPA applies to foreign employees and agents etc. of US companies. Not just to the USA-based employees.

Michael

 

[jrodson69]

Yeah, this one will go somewhere. LOL.

Nigeria discussing bribery? Kind of like a Democrat opining on small government!

 

[Zebo]

Where's Harvey? This will make his day!

Harvey's rant is correct - it's long for sure but it's like arguing against gravity which is why there are no takers, ever. Trying is about a dumb as jumping out of a c130 without a chute which none does either. Wish he'd do the same for Obamanomics and Obama security surveillance state, or BlackBush as I like to call him, but the man has loyalties.

 

[Lemon law]

To some extent, the Nigerian indictment of Cheney depends on the quality of the the the Nigerian evidence against Cheney. But if Nigeria can lay out a very credible and provable case against Cheney in Interpol and in front of US judges, and it will be very different than if the the Nigerian case is weak and circumstantial.

Since we know little now, much of what we posting is just guesses.

In terms of bias, I admit I would love to see Cheney nailed, but we all have to admit its the quality of the evidence that should determine the end results.

 

[dali71]

Silly Nigerians, you just fucked with the wrong guy

 

[dualsmp]

Silly Nigerians, you just fucked with the wrong guy

No doubt. Cheney doesn't like bad news.

 

[Generator]

Obama and Bush has made it clear...the rich and connected are above the law. They act with impunity! So get use to that shit sandwhich America, lawlessness is here to stay.

Sincerely,

Goldman Sachs

p.s. Thanks for bailout billions for stealing your pensions. Suckers...

 

[Craig234]

LAGOS – Nigeria has negotiated a 250 million dollar settlement deal that would see it drop charges against US ex-vice president Dick Cheney and others over a bribery scandal, an official said Tuesday.

Oh, the irony.

The deal reached by officials from Nigeria and energy firm Halliburton, Cheney's former company, must still be approved by the West African country's government, said Femi Babafemi, a spokesman for the anti-graft agency.

"The attorney general of the federation will have to ratify that on behalf of the federal government," he said, adding that a decision would come before the end of the week. The money would be paid "in lieu of prosecution."

Officials told AFP on Monday that the Nigerian government would consider a settlement deal in the case following weekend negotiations in London.

The London talks came after Nigerian authorities charged Cheney and others last week over a bribery scandal linked to construction of a liquefied natural gas plant. Cheney was head of Halliburton before becoming US vice president following 2000 elections.

Babafemi said the 250 million would include some 130 million currently frozen in Switzerland, with the rest paid in fines.

A source close to the case speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed the 250 million total amount, but said 100 million was in Switzerland, while a further 30 million dollars was in Monaco.

Those sums had been paid to an intermediary, but were never passed on as part of the bribery scheme, according to the source.

The case involves an alleged 182 million dollar cash-for-contract scandal over 10 years until 2005 over construction of the liquefied natural gas plant in southern Nigeria.

Others charged included Halliburton CEO David Lesar, as well as Halliburton Inc., its former subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), former KBR head Albert "Jack" Stanley and that firm's current leader William Utt.

Halliburton declined comment, but has previously denied involvement in the allegations. A spokesman for Cheney has dismissed the accusations against him as baseless.

The consortium involved in the gas plant, TSKJ, was also charged. Companies in TSKJ included France's Technip, Snamprogetti (formerly a subsidiary of a company owned by Italy's Eni), KBR and Japan's JGC.

US authorities said last year that Halliburton and KBR had agreed to pay 177 million dollars to settle charges from the Securities and Exchange Commission in the United States over the scandal.

KBR agreed to pay a further 402 million dollars to settle criminal charges brought by the US Justice Department.

This scandal is a good example of the double standard for the right, where Cheney is almost untouched in the US for this.

How many more times coverage has Obama's birth certificate got than this scandal?

 

[rudder]

Any diplomat assigned to a third world shit hole is likely guilty of bribery. That is the only way stuff gets done in those places.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Nigeria gets 2 payoffs instead of just 1.

Smart doing

 

[herm0016]

in afirca bribes are required to do business. this is a political stunt.

 

[trenchfoot]

$250 mil? Way too low...bad negotiating by Nigeria unless more uhhhh, more privately funded humanitarian donations to a certain select few aid foundations that claim to represent the starving masses is in the pipe along with the settlement.

 

[Craig234]

in afirca bribes are required to do business. this is a political stunt.

LOL, the Republican apologists are out, as I said.

The law doesn't apply to Republican politicians.

And everyone does this, every American company doing business there is paying *over half a billion dollars in *US* fines to the SEC and Justice Department*.

Dishonest ignorant people here.

 

[Corn]

Dishonest ignorant people here.

Yes, you certainly are.

 

[marincounty]

The justice dept should hire Ken Starr to investigate. Give him a couple of years and about $100 million to investigate. I'm sure Cheney has done something illegal, maybe if we have investigators crawl up his ass they will find something.

 

[Genx87]

What did he do? Send an email to somebody in Nigeria asking them to help him move funds and to provide bank information?

 

[Craig234]

The justice dept should hire Ken Starr to investigate. Give him a couple of years and about $100 million to investigate. I'm sure Cheney has done something illegal, maybe if we have investigators crawl up his ass they will find something.

Why do we need to investigate, did you see the article they're *already* paying over a half billion dollars for wrongdoing to the *US* government.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Bribery is a very serious crime.

And what crimes has julian assange commited? The fact that you don't like him does not make what he has done illegal.

He's wanted for rape, sexual assault and some other stuff in Sweden but i hear the US are trying to link him to crimes in the US, if that happens he should be so lucky to be in Sweden because they won't let him go, Britains rules for extradition to the US are essentially "if you ask, we deliver".

That's why i don't buy him going into hiding before because he was afraid of extradition from Sweden to the US, he's trying to make the rape and assault charges about Wikileaks so retards who don't know better to defend him while in reality, the rape and assault charges has nothing to do with Wikileaks but everything to do with Julian Assange.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

You equate bribery with a night on the town? You consider it normal business ethics? Certainly not in the real world and not in the US. Also the US has very serious federal laws about US companies bribing overseas. IF (and I stress the IF) there is anything to this I would expect a US federal indictment to follow.

Given Cheney's health situation, the decade that has passed since he led Haliburton, and personal doubts about Nigerian justice system I'm not going to bank on him being led off in an orange jumpsuit any time soon.

Obviously it is how the real world works. And it works this way in the US. there are just to many pretensious holier than though pussies in America that can't see that if you want something to get done, you give money.
Why do you think companies give donations to politicians? However you want to spin it, it's a form of bribery.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Leaking and publishing are different.

That very much depends on Assanges role, if he aided or even encouraged it he has commited a crime in the US and then it doesn't matter much what nation he's a citisen of, in that case he'd be safer in Sweden than in any other nation with the possible exception of Iran.

 

[Craig234]

That very much depends on Assanges role, if he aided or even encouraged it he has commited a crime in the US and then it doesn't matter much what nation he's a citisen of, in that case he'd be safer in Sweden than in any other nation with the possible exception of Iran.

There is zero evidence Assange 'aided or encouraged it' any more than the New York Times 'aided or encouraged' Daniel Ellsberg by being a newspaper.

Being a publisher means accepting the information and publishing it, just as the New York Times did and dozens of other American newspapers, and papers are doing now.