Cheesecake = Pie

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dullard

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Originally posted by: DaY
For the record; a Pizza IS a pie.
Few people would argue against you DaY. But, for the record, a cat is an animal. We still don't go around saying "cat animal" everytime we want to talk about a cat. The term "pizza pie" is equally stupid. The two terms "pizza" and "pie" refer to two distinct categories of items just like "cat" and "animal" are distinct. The words should never, ever be uttered together. You can eat pizza, or you can eat a pie. You don't eat a pizza pie.

To be more clear, a tart is a short pie without a top. A pizza is a short pie without a top. So a pizza is a tart. Are you arguing that we should call it a "pizza tart pie pastry food"?

Yes, waiter, I'd like to order a pepporoni pizza tart pie pastry food with extra cheese!
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Phil
Then call it cheesepie and get laughed at by donkeys.
Cheesepie is not its name. Its name is cheesecake. But that doesn't make it a cake. It is still a pie that was misnamed at one point in its life.

No, it's a cake.

Lemon Meringue cake?
 

dfi

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Phil
Pies. Have. Lids.
Hey Phil, look at this:
Originally posted by: Injury
pie1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p)
n.
A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust.
Notice the USUALLY part? Pies don't need a lid.

My definition: if the bulk is solid enough that there are well defined air pockets (like bread has) then I call it a cake. If not, I call it a pie. Thus to me, cheesecake is a pie.

OH WOW I DIDN'T SEE THAT DARRRRR.
Yes, I noticed the "usually" bit. My definition: no lid = cake. Lid = pie.

Just because that's your definition, doesn't mean your definition is right. I can define pizza as anything with cheese on it. And since cheesecake has cheese on it, it's a pizza. And since pizza is pie, cheesecake is pie. My definition (premise) is wrong, and thus my conclusion becomes questionable (but in this case it's right!)
 
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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: DaY
For the record; a Pizza IS a pie.
Few people would argue against you DaY. But, for the record, a cat is an animal. We still don't go around saying "cat animal" everytime we want to talk about a cat. The term "pizza pie" is equally stupid. The two terms "pizza" and "pie" refer to two distinct categories of items just like "cat" and "animal" distinct. The words should never, ever be uttered together. You can eat pizza, or you can eat a pie. You don't eat a pizza pie.

To be more clear, a tart is a short pie without a top. A pizza is a short pie without a top. So a pizza is a tart. Are you arguing that we should call it a "pizza tart pie pastry food"?

Yes, waiter, I'd like to order a pepporoni pizza tart pie pastry food with extra cheese!

The world pizza is believed to be from an Old Italian word meaning "a point," which in turn became the Italian word "pizzicare," which means "to pinch" or "pluck."

Pizza and pie are not synonymous. "Pizza" doesn't immediate imply it's a pie.
 
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Originally posted by: dullard
Pizza and pie are not synonymous.
That is what I just said. They are distinct and different. Thus the term "pizza pie" should not be used.
"Pizza" doesn't immediate imply it's a pie.
Hmm, what do I say about this:
Originally posted by: DaY
For the record; a Pizza IS a pie.

Meh, my wording was off. The word pizza doesn't imply it's a pie, but we all know what a pizza is, since it's only ever a pie.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: DaY
For the record; a Pizza IS a pie.
Few people would argue against you DaY. But, for the record, a cat is an animal. We still don't go around saying "cat animal" everytime we want to talk about a cat. The term "pizza pie" is equally stupid. The two terms "pizza" and "pie" refer to two distinct categories of items just like "cat" and "animal" are distinct. The words should never, ever be uttered together. You can eat pizza, or you can eat a pie. You don't eat a pizza pie.

To be more clear, a tart is a short pie without a top. A pizza is a short pie without a top. So a pizza is a tart. Are you arguing that we should call it a "pizza tart pie pastry food"?

Yes, waiter, I'd like to order a pepporoni pizza tart pie pastry food with extra cheese!

You're a tart. A delicious tart.
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: dfi
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Phil
Pies. Have. Lids.
Hey Phil, look at this:
Originally posted by: Injury
pie1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p)
n.
A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust.
Notice the USUALLY part? Pies don't need a lid.

My definition: if the bulk is solid enough that there are well defined air pockets (like bread has) then I call it a cake. If not, I call it a pie. Thus to me, cheesecake is a pie.

OH WOW I DIDN'T SEE THAT DARRRRR.
Yes, I noticed the "usually" bit. My definition: no lid = cake. Lid = pie.

Just because that's your definition, doesn't mean your definition is right. I can define pizza as anything with cheese on it. And since cheesecake has cheese on it, it's a pizza. And since pizza is pie, cheesecake is pie. My definition (premise) is wrong, and thus my conclusion becomes questionable (but in this case it's right!)

When donkeys are involved, my definition is always right, for I am the King Of Donkeys.
 

Juno

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in new jersey, we call pie instead pizza.

pizza = pie.

if you are speaking of custard pie then name it. pumpkin pie, apple pie and etc.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Juno
in new jersey, we call pie instead pizza.

pizza = pie.

if you are speaking of custard pie then name it. pumpkin pie, apple pie and etc.

This still leaves the Cheesecake issue. Where do you stand on that?
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Tom
Is a jelly filled donut a pie ?

No.

Yes it is. It's filled and covered.

No, it's baked and then injected.

Sounds like my Friday nights.

boom-tish

OK, I lol'd!

As did I buddy :D
I'm sure it's the first stages of mental instability, but meh. Injecting sweet young things while baked FTW.