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Cheapest "luxury" watch
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sygyzy
Lifer
Please don't listen to the guys here that buy mall brands. Movado is NOT a "luxury" watch brand. I'm sorry. Listen to the couple of guys in this thread that actually have visited Timezone or a Tourneau store (even to browse). There are watch values out there. Don't waste your money.
As for your clients, I am sorry that they are so arrogant. And as high and mighty as it makes everyone seem by insulting them, welcome to the real world. Physical apperances are not a mark of quality or intelligence, but there's a reason why people who can afford it, buy nice things. Usually better quality, fit, and finish. If you made as much as they do, would you pull up to a multimillion dollar deal in your Civic?
As for your clients, I am sorry that they are so arrogant. And as high and mighty as it makes everyone seem by insulting them, welcome to the real world. Physical apperances are not a mark of quality or intelligence, but there's a reason why people who can afford it, buy nice things. Usually better quality, fit, and finish. If you made as much as they do, would you pull up to a multimillion dollar deal in your Civic?
First of all, Movado is available in mall stores but not the higher quality line. The highest priced Movado you will find in a mall store is probably roughly $800, which is still overpriced. They have watches that are extremely good quality, that run for over a G. They are just trying to be in everyone's market range, kind of like Mercedes when they introduced that low-end C-class
slackerinabox
Lifer
Marketing. The people we work with are usually self made millionaires and not the born rich. My roommate is born rich and oddly cares very little about such things, it seems like 'new money' is most particular about aesthetics.
sygyzy
Lifer
You know what's really weird? The board said the post when through but I guess it never did. Here is what I wanted to say:
You mean to tell me that people who struggled and worked hard to build their forture are more "careless" about their things than people, like your roommate, born with a silver spoon in their mouths? In my personal experience, the complete opposite is true. Maybe that tells you something about what you consider to be a "waste of money" (ie nice watches). If the people who busted their backs are willing to spend their hard earned money on it, maybe it's something that MANY people view as a sign of class.
Your roommate may not care about little things but he is probably the same type of person who'll spend $1000 on a mall-brand. That's the point. He did not earn his money so he won't bother researching and buying quality.
HumblePie
Lifer
Movado is a mall brand. It's what I, and many watch collectors consider a good but entry level luxury watch. There's nothing spectacular about it unless you buy a solid gold one. I do like the Movado Eclipse watches but the rest are not that bad.
Expensive != good watch. Rolex's are expensive but in terms of craftmenship, aren't exactly the best. They are great watches too and their brand name recognition more then makes up for the high dollar price. When the average person see someone with a rolex on and they think you are rich and upper-class. It does exactly what it's suppose to do. Same with MALL brands that are expensive. Why? because more people recognize them.
I could probably walk up to 50 random people on the street and ask them if the know what a Movado or a Tag Heuer is and the majority would be able to answer correctly. A luxury watch,albeit entry level but I the average person won't know that either. If I asked the majority of people what a Breitling, Paitek Phillipe, Franck Muller, Jaeger-LeCoutre, or one of the MAJOR high end luxury watches, they wouldn't know what the hell I'm asking. You can't walk into a store usually and pick one up. And when you have a watch that costs $150K most people aren't going to recognize it unless they are watch fanatics.
Don't call Movado's crap or a non-luxury watch. They are luxury watches. Even Seikos are and pretty much any watch over $200 I call a luxury watch. Why? watches are there to tell time and you can do that reliablly with a sub $100 watch and have it look decent too. Luxury watches, like luxury cars, are there to impress. Movados can, will and do impress people. Same with Paiteks, but usually only after most people get a closer look.
Movados are also swiss made, come with sapphire crystals, keep impeccable time with typically a + OR - .7 seconds every day. That + OR - also distinguishes a good watch from a bad one. A casio watch from walmart might be + .3 seconds every day, but eventually, you are going to be minutes ahead of the real time instead of seconds. In a year you would have to reset the casio back to a closer time, while something like a Movado might stil be within a few seconds of the real time cause it gained and lost seconds instead of only one or the other.
There are other factors included in precision craftmenship for watches. Some of it is just bunk in my opinion, like adding extra jewels just to up the jewel count ala Walthom watches.
Seriously though, any "mall" brand isn't bad, you just might end up paying more then you should. Then again, most true luxury watches are going to be price fixed so getting discounts of any form is not going to be easy unless the watch is hot or fake. This is why these watches really impress, because they command a big price tag.
Expensive != good watch. Rolex's are expensive but in terms of craftmenship, aren't exactly the best. They are great watches too and their brand name recognition more then makes up for the high dollar price. When the average person see someone with a rolex on and they think you are rich and upper-class. It does exactly what it's suppose to do. Same with MALL brands that are expensive. Why? because more people recognize them.
I could probably walk up to 50 random people on the street and ask them if the know what a Movado or a Tag Heuer is and the majority would be able to answer correctly. A luxury watch,albeit entry level but I the average person won't know that either. If I asked the majority of people what a Breitling, Paitek Phillipe, Franck Muller, Jaeger-LeCoutre, or one of the MAJOR high end luxury watches, they wouldn't know what the hell I'm asking. You can't walk into a store usually and pick one up. And when you have a watch that costs $150K most people aren't going to recognize it unless they are watch fanatics.
Don't call Movado's crap or a non-luxury watch. They are luxury watches. Even Seikos are and pretty much any watch over $200 I call a luxury watch. Why? watches are there to tell time and you can do that reliablly with a sub $100 watch and have it look decent too. Luxury watches, like luxury cars, are there to impress. Movados can, will and do impress people. Same with Paiteks, but usually only after most people get a closer look.
Movados are also swiss made, come with sapphire crystals, keep impeccable time with typically a + OR - .7 seconds every day. That + OR - also distinguishes a good watch from a bad one. A casio watch from walmart might be + .3 seconds every day, but eventually, you are going to be minutes ahead of the real time instead of seconds. In a year you would have to reset the casio back to a closer time, while something like a Movado might stil be within a few seconds of the real time cause it gained and lost seconds instead of only one or the other.
There are other factors included in precision craftmenship for watches. Some of it is just bunk in my opinion, like adding extra jewels just to up the jewel count ala Walthom watches.
Seriously though, any "mall" brand isn't bad, you just might end up paying more then you should. Then again, most true luxury watches are going to be price fixed so getting discounts of any form is not going to be easy unless the watch is hot or fake. This is why these watches really impress, because they command a big price tag.
HumblePie
Lifer
Ahhh... most invicta are what I called overpriced NON-luxury watches. They usually aren't swiss made and don't usually have a good crystal lens. They ARE fashionable with the right crowd, especially their Lupa desiged watches. However, That's like saying a mickey mouse watch is fashionable with the right crowd as well. See ages 15-22 for the Lupas and 2-8 for the micky mouse watch.
There are a few lines of invicta, the Speedster which has a sapphire crystal and one of their diver lines which is okay. But if you are looking to impress people in the business world with your watch, this is one of those I would stay away from personally.
sharkeeper
Lifer
Rolex Sea Dweller (EDW) or Breguet TransAtlantic.
QueBert
Lifer
Ummm, I've seen HIGH priced Movados. How can they be not be considered a lux watch?? They have more decently priced models, but they also have ones that are expeeeensive.
Lux watch = Jacob, $35,000 - $100,000 fugly as all hell. but any snob would be impressed. Take a second out on your house if need be.
Lux watch = Jacob, $35,000 - $100,000 fugly as all hell. but any snob would be impressed. Take a second out on your house if need be.
slackerinabox
Lifer
Well, they kinda pay my rent. I wish it wasn't the case but, well, I have to adapt to them, not them to I.
sharkeeper
Lifer
Hmmm yeah well "luxury" and "cheap" go together like "rats" and "women".
You can find a decent automatic for that price. Do NOT buy a quartz watch. They are the antichrist!
I have been thinking about the same issue.
I have have been thinking that ORIS makes watches that fit into what I am looking for:
1) Swiss movement
2) European styling
3) History
4) Positive brand image
5) Affordable pricing
6) Everyday watch
http://www.oris.ch/english/index.html
I have have been thinking that ORIS makes watches that fit into what I am looking for:
1) Swiss movement
2) European styling
3) History
4) Positive brand image
5) Affordable pricing
6) Everyday watch
http://www.oris.ch/english/index.html
HumblePie
Lifer
Those are one of the Diver lines of Invictia that is decent, but I wouldn't buy it off fleabay. It's a Swiss made line with a Sapphire crystal and sweeping second hand. One of the few good ones in the Invictia lineup. Rest are craptacular chinese and taiwanese made peices of garbage.
As far as going mechanical over quartz/digital. It's all a matter of preference. Neither is more inherently better then the other. I prefer mechanical because I like the fact they don't use batteries, have more weight to them, and usually the really good ones have a clear sapphire back crystal to see the "inside" mechanics which impresses some people. Can't do that with a quartz. Then again, the best made quartz will always beat out the best made mechanical in terms of true performance for time with a very miniscule + or - time gain per day based off environmental effects. Which is why even a $20 casio walmart watch can pass a Chronometre standards test but most mechanical mades ones can't earn the title of Chronmetre from the Swiss Watch makers.
The other reason I prefer mechanical is cause for some reason, my body chemistry/electricity kills any watch with a battery in a month or two. Doesn't matter what the watch brand or "quality" is, if it has a battery it gets drained dry FAST if I wear it.
I have a Seiko 5 automatic and I've gotten quite a few compliments on it. If I had a job where clients made fun of my watch, I'd probably not wear one.
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