Charlotte, NC riots

[Atreus21]

No thread on this yet? Or am I just not looking hard enough?

A black man allegedly refuses to drop a gun as ordered by a black cop. Black cop kills black man. Race riots ensue.

Makes sense. Why should we wait for an investigation? Let's jump to conclusions dammit.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article103301802.html

https://twitter.com/Myrna_Perez/status/778828429248622592

https://twitter.com/LibertarianQn/status/778845840496594944

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/778787322141765632

https://twitter.com/Nomysahir/status/778828917658361856

 

[glenn1]

Black Lives Matter protesters do seem to have an uncanny knack for championing the most questionable possible examples of supposed unjustified shootings by police. Here black Police Chief says gun was recovered at the scene but no book. Must be a conspiracy.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article103155137.html

 

[highland145]

Makes sense. Why should we wait for an investigation? Let's jump to conclusions dammit.

Well, there is a free 12 pack and a bag of Cheetos to be had, amirite?


https://twitter.com/Myrna_Perez/status/778828429248622592

That is nuts...

 

[Atreus21]

Well, there is a free 12 pack and a bag of Cheetos to be had, amirite?


https://twitter.com/Myrna_Perez/status/778828429248622592

That is nuts...

Linked that one in the OP, mate.

 

[PokerGuy]

On my local news there was no mention of the race of the cop, they pushed the narrative of "once again, poor innocent man gunned down for no reason by evil cops, something needs to be done about all these racist killings!".

Then people act surprised when riots ensue. Typical race baiting and agenda pushing garbage.

Instead of waiting to see what actually occurred (an investigation), the narrative is pushed. Some say the guy was holding a book, cops claim he had a gun and was ordered to drop it but didn't. Pictures taken by witnesses show what appears to be a gun next to him. I don't know what actually happened at this point, but kind of curious to push the whole racism angle when the cop is an african american.

All reason and logic has been tossed out the window at this point in favor of pushing the narrative.

 

[highland145]

Linked that one in the OP, mate.

I know. Copied so I could mention it specifically.

 

[Atreus21]

On my local news there was no mention of the race of the cop, they pushed the narrative of "once again, poor innocent man gunned down for no reason by evil cops, something needs to be done about all these racist killings!".

Then people act surprised when riots ensue. Typical race baiting and agenda pushing garbage.

Instead of waiting to see what actually occurred (an investigation), the narrative is pushed. Some say the guy was holding a book, cops claim he had a gun and was ordered to drop it but didn't. Pictures taken by witnesses show what appears to be a gun next to him. I don't know what actually happened at this point, but kind of curious to push the whole racism angle when the cop is an african american.

Even if the worst case is true, that a cop killed an unarmed man for no good reason, I can't understand rioting before putting some faith in the justice system.

 

[Atreus21]

I know. Copied so I could mention it specifically.

Yeah? Well next time you check with me first, got it?



Kidding.

 

[highland145]

lol,

Yes, Sir.

 

[PokerGuy]

Even if the worst case is true, that a cop killed an unarmed man for no good reason, I can't understand rioting before putting some faith in the justice system.

IF the guy really was unarmed and IF the cop was not under any threat and just killed a guy, and IF the cop was then not made accountable (not charged, acquitted), then a lot of anger is justified. But now we're just jumping straight past all that logic stuff and straight into riot mode.... With the media cheering on the "justified anger in the community" -- as if that makes it OK to riot and loot.

 

[Brainonska511]

Even if the worst case is true, that a cop killed an unarmed man for no good reason, I can't understand rioting before putting some faith in the justice system.

You're asking people to have faith in a system that has systematically discriminated against them for years? Good luck with that.

And even if the police were in the right here, they've lost a lot of faith and trust in the communities they are serving thanks to years of systematic abuses and lack of accountability.

I don't think any of it is an excuse for violence, but you should try to see it from their perspective.

 

[WackyDan]

https://www.facebook.com/lenard.s.bennett/posts/1380126515335337

Of course, then we have packs of blacks targeting individual whites in parking decks in Charlotte last night.

I live in Charlotte. Disgraceful behavior.

 

[highland145]

CWP or stay home.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You're asking people to have faith in a system that has systematically discriminated against them for years? Good luck with that.

And even if the police were in the right here, they've lost a lot of faith and trust in the communities they are serving thanks to years of systematic abuses and lack of accountability.

I don't think any of it is an excuse for violence, but you should try to see it from their perspective.

Blacks are discriminated against as far as police stops etc but not in shootings. Don't have time at the moment but NYT posted a study (Harvard if memory serves me right) that shows blacks were less likely to be killed by a police than whites.

They have a lot to be angry about, but the narrative is false and they pick the worst examples to try and make their point. And I do agree with the above that the media is fanning the flames.

 

[Atreus21]

You're asking people to have faith in a system that has systematically discriminated against them for years?

Yes. They have to start giving the justice system a chance to do justice.

And even if the police were in the right here, they've lost a lot of faith and trust in the communities they are serving thanks to years of systematic abuses and lack of accountability.

I don't think any of it is an excuse for violence, but you should try to see it from their perspective.

I do see it from their perspective to the extent that I'm able. But they are responsible for their actions. A biased justice system is a bad enough problem without blacks rioting and perpetuating nasty stereotypes whenever a black man gets shot, rightly or wrongly, by police.

Do they expect people to sympathize with their complaint when they act like this? If you want to change civilization, you need to begin by acting civilized. Otherwise known as following Martin Luther King's example.

 

[Genx87]

On my local news there was no mention of the race of the cop, they pushed the narrative of "once again, poor innocent man gunned down for no reason by evil cops, something needs to be done about all these racist killings!".

Then people act surprised when riots ensue. Typical race baiting and agenda pushing garbage.

Instead of waiting to see what actually occurred (an investigation), the narrative is pushed. Some say the guy was holding a book, cops claim he had a gun and was ordered to drop it but didn't. Pictures taken by witnesses show what appears to be a gun next to him. I don't know what actually happened at this point, but kind of curious to push the whole racism angle when the cop is an african american.

All reason and logic has been tossed out the window at this point in favor of pushing the narrative.

If only there were video available.

 

[highland145]

If only there were video available.

You would think they would clear and post the video asap to try and prevent the looting/violence.

 

[Genx87]

Yes. They have to start giving the justice system a chance to do justice.



I do see it from their perspective to the extent that I'm able. But they are responsible for their actions. A biased justice system is a bad enough problem without blacks rioting and perpetuating nasty stereotypes whenever a black man gets shot, rightly or wrongly, by police.

Do they expect people to sympathize with their complaint when they act like this? If you want to change civilization, you need to begin by acting civilized. Otherwise known as following Martin Luther King's example.

You know in the 1960s all that rioting and protesting achieved a political outcome to their greviences. So why does it surprise you 50 years later unsolved issues are being protested and violence committed?

Through the course of history acting civilized has not always given way to change. A lot of change through human history was achieved by violence. For decades the black community has tried to gain a political change of their interaction with police by acting civilized. That hasnt fixed the issue.. So now they are going to resort to violence. I suspect violence will get more done. Only so many cities will burn before the politicians move to action.

 

[Roflmouth]

No thread on this yet? Or am I just not looking hard enough?

A black man allegedly refuses to drop a gun as ordered by a black cop. Black cop kills black man. Race riots ensue.

Clearly an example of the white patriarchy keeping blacks down, LOL. Watching idiot liberals twist themselves into pretzels to excuse this rampant thuggery should be hilarious.

 

[Roflmouth]

You're asking people to have faith in a system that has systematically discriminated against them for years? Good luck with that.

And even if the police were in the right here, they've lost a lot of faith and trust in the communities they are serving thanks to years of systematic abuses and lack of accountability.

I don't think any of it is an excuse for violence,

Sure you do.

 

[Atreus21]

Through the course of history acting civilized has not always given way to change. A lot of change through human history was achieved by violence. For decades the black community has tried to gain a political change of their interaction with police by acting civilized. That hasnt fixed the issue.. So now they are going to resort to violence. I suspect violence will get more done. Only so many cities will burn before the politicians move to action.

You might use similar reasoning to justify abortion clinic bombings and other acts of terrorism.

So do you endorse their rioting, the indiscriminate destruction of private property and beating of whites as shown in the linked videos? If you don't, I'd like to know why not given your reasoning above.

 

[Roflmouth]

If you have been paying attention I can understand why you cant fathom


People apparently have seen enough of the same script. Instead of waiting for the lack of charges and


You know in the 1960s all that rioting and protesting achieved a political outcome to their greviences. So why does it surprise you 50 years later unsolved issues are being protested and violence committed?

Through the course of history acting civilized has not always given way to change. A lot of change through human history was achieved by violence. For decades the black community has tried to gain a political change of their interaction with police by acting civilized. That hasnt fixed the issue.. So now they are going to resort to violence. I suspect violence will get more done.

You're right, of course. We're only three more looted Walmarts away from the make-believe epidemic of unarmed black men being executed by white cops being completely eliminated.

 

[Jaskalas]

I don't think anyone is happy to see #BLM championing yet another case where logic and reason do not support them.
Their narrative excuse for violence turns from racial injustice to anarchy and hatred against police. They're calling that officer blue, not white or black. Apparently anyone who takes up the badge to defend their neighborhood is a traitor.

 

[TheGardener]

Riots (aka peace protests) like we are seeing Charlotte, are convincing more voters that Democrats like Obama and Clinton can't protect them and the country. Latest Rasmussen poll has Trump up over Clinton by 5% points. Black people may unwittingly put Trump into the White House.

 

[HomerJS]

A couple of problems I have with the OP.

Do we have confirmation he had a gun? I've heard people who know him say he has the same weekday routine, read a book and wait for the bus. I've already heard he is handicapped and stutters. We don't know yet how the communication ensued. Nobody has characterized this as a race riot except the OP. Flaming much?

Put in the context of Tulsa not surprised this happed even I do not condone.

The one think I will look for is the cops telling the entire truth. In many of these cases that hasn't happened and trust with the community has eroded.

Why don't we all wait until more evidence comes in.