Charlie Kirk shot in the neck during Utah debate and has now passed.

[Pens1566]

I’m pretty sure if the kid was a leftist or a democrat they wouldn’t have waited a day or so to announce they had him in custody and would be all over trumpeting he was a radical leftist. Instead the day was used scrubbing the internet of the kid.

And the back pedaling from people like Nancy Mace wouldn't be happening either.

 

[KMFJD]

Yes, but I also saw contradictory claims saying his former friend (and fellow gamer) had described him as "very left wing". Though, now I look for that report, it now says




So, who knows? Still as clear as mud.

I mean, those bullet casing inscriptions seem a bit contrdictory - anti-fascist references, plus a homophobic remark. Not to mention they seem a heck of a lot of words to 'engrave' on a bullet casing. Who goes to that much effort? That Luigi guy only inscribed three short words, not long, rambling sentences.

nah, as soon as i saw the halloween picture of him it was obvious to me...the slavic squat / keke pose are 4 chan staples, same with the markings on the bullets, that's all classic 4chan/kiwi farms shit

 

[pmv]

I could understand if Charlie's critics simple had a disdain for him.

But you volks are souless, full of spite and hatred which will rot your
heart, time in memorial. No example of pity for his widow nor his two
young children, whom will be raised without the love of their father.

I would not even wish this on Obomda nor Chairman Joe.

Have any of you ever watched a vid of Kirk entering the lions' den and
axe "prove me wrong." He is a threat to you and the established sewer.
Many of you hate America as well, despise Christians, abhor free enterprise,
seek to destroy American culture and work to establish the bourgeoisie class.
Marxxx, Engel, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Castro are your spirit brothers, waiting at the gates of Hell. The old red guard and Politburo await you.

You are a petty and specious lot; history will cast you aside. Your ashes will have no material value, not in the fields, nor even to strengthen brickwork.
You shall blow aimlessly in the desert, to be trampled and defiled by man and beasts alike.

Come you are the despoiler of the earth.

Bots are writing (bad) poetry now!

A lot of people probably died violently that same day (e.g. in Gaza, or Ukraine). I don't feel any reason to pick this one in particular out, for individual expressions of sorrow. I note that (false-flagger) Starmer did. Another reason to dislike that guy.

 

[pmv]

nah, as soon as i saw the halloween picture of him it was obvious to me...the slavic squat / keke pose are 4 chan staples, same with the markings on the bullets, that's all classic 4chan/kiwi farms shit

I'll have to take your word for that, I don't even know enough to know what "kiwi farms" refers to. I just hope we do eventually get the truth and it isn't buried (alongside the Epstein file) or, worse, fabricated to fit a Trump agenda.

 

[igor_kavinski]

It was sad to see Candace Owens mourning him. I thought she was better than that.

 

[Wreckem]

I'll have to take your word for that, I don't even know enough to know what "kiwi farms" refers to. I just hope we do eventually get the truth and it isn't buried (alongside the Epstein file) or, worse, fabricated to fit a Trump agenda.

The right already pushed the agenda it was a leftist trans anti racist ideology from the get go with the help of the ATF/FBI. That’s what dominated the news cycle. It’s already been used to rile up the far right. Even though it’s clear the kid isn’t a leftist or a democrat.

It was either a false flag right on right violence or he’s a accelerationist. Either way though the right is going to continue to run with and push radical leftist.

 

[KMFJD]

It's nice to see Charlie's wife helping to tone down the violent rhetoric:

“You have no idea what you have just unleashed across this entire country and this world. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.“

best response i saw was - “You thought my husband was craven, watch me use his literal corpse as a prop!”

 

[KMFJD]

It was sad to see Candace Owens mourning him. I thought she was better than that.

 

[Perknose]

The kid? He's not Christian. His parents are. Actually his values are polar opposite.

So . . . he's a MAGA Republican?

 

[Perknose]

I would not even wish this on Obomda nor Chairman Joe.

Yes, you sound like a lovely, well-balanced person, with nothing but love and respect in your heart, from "time in memorial" (sic)

 

[KMFJD]

just lol, what a stupid stupid administration

 

[Amused]

I could understand if Charlie's critics simple had a disdain for him.

But you volks are souless, full of spite and hatred which will rot your
heart, time in memorial. No example of pity for his widow nor his two
young children, whom will be raised without the love of their father.

I would not even wish this on Obomda nor Chairman Joe.

Have any of you ever watched a vid of Kirk entering the lions' den and
axe "prove me wrong." He is a threat to you and the established sewer.
Many of you hate America as well, despise Christians, abhor free enterprise,
seek to destroy American culture and work to establish the bourgeoisie class.
Marxxx, Engel, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Castro are your spirit brothers, waiting at the gates of Hell. The old red guard and Politburo await you.

You are a petty and specious lot; history will cast you aside. Your ashes will have no material value, not in the fields, nor even to strengthen brickwork.
You shall blow aimlessly in the desert, to be trampled and defiled by man and beasts alike.

Come you are the despoiler of the earth.

 

[Amused]

 

[mikeymikec]

Yes, but I also saw contradictory claims saying his former friend (and fellow gamer) had described him as "very left wing". Though, now I look for that report, it now says




So, who knows? Still as clear as mud.

Meh... right-wingers are often like "everyone left of me is far left", while voting for the orange guy.

I mean, those bullet casing inscriptions seem a bit contrdictory - anti-fascist references, plus a homophobic remark. Not to mention they seem a heck of a lot of words to 'engrave' on a bullet casing. Who goes to that much effort? That Luigi guy only inscribed three short words, not long, rambling sentences.

(mainly responding to the anti-fascist point) They can be contradictory and still be an accurate set of events. For example, I'd bet that 90% of enthusiastic 2A proponents are a) Trump suppporters and b) still trumpet the idea that a point of 2A is to defend against fascism. The classic trope of "it's fascism when you don't like it".

It would be interesting to find out whether the bullet casing assertions remain as part of the official narrative after the premature "lefty" stuff has well and truly been washed away.

 

[Brainonska511]

Brooks and Capehart on Americans’ reactions to the killing of Charlie Kirk

New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk and the tough questions it raises about the political environment in the country.

www.pbs.org

David Brooks losing his fucking mind. People are insane to think this is anything like George Floyd being murdered by racist cops. And that "our" is very telling. Who is "our" supposed to be, Mr Brooks?


Edit: fixed phone typos

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Meh... right-wingers are often like "everyone left of me is far left", while voting for the orange guy.



(mainly responding to the anti-fascist point) They can be contradictory and still be an accurate set of events. For example, I'd bet that 90% of enthusiastic 2A proponents are a) Trump suppporters and b) still trumpet the idea that a point of 2A is to defend against fascism. The classic trope of "it's fascism when you don't like it".

It would be interesting to find out whether the bullet casing assertions remain as part of the official narrative after the premature "lefty" stuff has well and truly been washed away.

I love how we started with the bullets having pro-trans anti-fascist carvings in them, and it's now transitioned to extreme-right red-on-red.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Brooks and Capehart on Americans’ reactions to the killing of Charlie Kirk

New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk and the tough questions it raises about the political environment in the country.

www.pbs.org

David Brooks losing his fucking mind. People are insane to think this is anything like George Floyd being murdered by racist cops. And that "out" is very telling. Who is "our" supposed to elbe Mr Brooks?

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Yup, can't wait until our local conservatives come in here to talk about how insane and disgusting this is.

 

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[mikeymikec]

It was sad to see Candace Owens mourning him. I thought she was better than that.

Nope. She's a right-wing apologist who likes to sanewash Hitler.

 

[mikeymikec]

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Christ, they go after furries too? Just how little time do these people have on their hands? <remembers that the GQP have played "trans people are like furries" games too>

 

[mikeymikec]

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The picture looks like Pelosi. Am I missing something?

 

[pmv]

Meh... right-wingers are often like "everyone left of me is far left", while voting for the orange guy.

I don't know, the original report seemed pretty clear about the guy's politics, but then it's been removed as the source apparently subsequently backtracked.

I just would be interested to know if he really was on 'the left', as in my experience the left, are just nowhere near as ruthless as the right (nor, crucially, as competent when it comes to murderous violence and using firearms). The closest examples would be nationalist groups like the IRA (who are _kind of_ leftist, but not exclusively or consistently so - like a lot of nationalist organisations their support is apparently split between "Marxists" and religious conservatives).

That applies even on smaller scales and to non-violent cases - just look at the utterly ruthless Stalinist bureaucratic tactics of the Labour Party right under Starmer compared to the hopeless wishy-washy approach of the left of that party with Corbyn (who failed to purge the party of Starmer's mob when he had the chance). The right don't mess around or worry about moral scruples. It's almost always the left who hobble themselves by worrying about morality.

If there are leftists out there as murderously ruthless as this it's just interesting to know.

(mainly responding to the anti-fascist point) They can be contradictory and still be an accurate set of events. For example, I'd bet that 90% of enthusiastic 2A proponents are a) Trump suppporters and b) still trumpet the idea that a point of 2A is to defend against fascism. The classic trope of "it's fascism when you don't like it".

It would be interesting to find out whether the bullet casing assertions remain as part of the official narrative after the premature "lefty" stuff has well and truly been washed away.

Thing is, I would expect a rightist to throw around references to "Marxism" or "communism" rather than fascism. Though the report also mentioned that those anti-fascist references are actually in the Helldivers game (not a game I've played at all, so I don't know). So maybe it's from that? Perhaps he's just another contradictory 'politically all over the place' nutter?

 

[mikeymikec]

I love how we started with the bullets having pro-trans anti-fascist carvings in them, and it's now transitioned to extreme-right red-on-red.

One thing I heard about the "pro trans markings" was that some fuckwit on the case mistook the engravings of a bullet manufacturer (TRN) to mean something trans-ish.

 

[Amused]

The picture looks like Pelosi. Am I missing something?

The congressman who stated he was going to blatantly violate the first Amendment by using the government to go after every American who was not respectful after Kirk's death on social media made fun of Paul Pelosi's attempted murder... on social media.