CDC - Over 1 in 3 Americans has Prediabetes

[futurefields]

http://www.cdc.gov/features/diabetesprevention/

This is insane. Luckily it's reversible. I'm pretty sure I was going down that road during my MMORPG days before I realized I was wasting my sweet genetics on something that will never matter in the end. People who are addicted to video gaming and/or TV shows and/or sugar, it's time to wake up now.

You can reverse this if you make that change today. First change what you eat, and then try to pack on muscle as a calorie burner. Otherwise you're going to be injecting yourself with an insulin needle for the rest of your life or need to wear a pump that will inject you for the rest of your life. Ask people here with diabetes if they would have done something if they knew they had prediabetes and I bet they would have. It's a terrible affliction and its ripple effects can be debilitating:

yeah all u dirty rotten gamers better wise up!

 

[ElFenix]

It's a ceasar salad. That's a handful of lettuce that is basically drenched with a heavy salad dressing, caked with cheese and then adds croutons for good measure. It's exactly what I was talking about.

If you want to eat a "healthy" salad that isn't calorie heavy but still tastes awesome, cook up one or two pieces of bacon (pre-cooked bacon is about 20 calories for two slices), cook it up and dice it. A teaspoon of sugar (25 calories), two tablespoons of Dijon mustard (no calories), some red wine vinegar and cook it in a skillet. Add a couple giant handfuls of spinach and wilt it just a bit. Bam. Far more nutrients than that bowl of shit from McDonalds and comes in at under 100 calories.

This isn't rocket sciences. If you can operate a 4000 pound piece of equipment to drive to a fast food place, you should have the cognitive capacity to know what you are shoveling into your mouth at it.

you must be draining the bacon fat off first

 

[vi edit]

you must be draining the bacon fat off first

It's the pre-cooked stuff from Sams club. Says a serving is 5 slices @ 70 calories.

 

[ElFenix]

It's the pre-cooked stuff from Sams club. Says a serving is 5 slices @ 70 calories.

D:

 

[dullard]

thats a pretty stupid opinion.

Thanks for pointing out your reasons for disagreeing.

It isn't just me, experts in the field say the same thing:
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0714/160714-Pre-diabetes-label-unnecessary-and-unhelpful

 

[dullard]

Pre-diabetes is not "normal." Being short because I'm on my phone.

You'll be calling a plurality of people pre-diabetic, even a majority of people in some countries. If more than 50% of people are in a condition, then that condition is normal. It might not be a desired condition, it might not be the best possible condition, but it is not abnormal. And in this case it isn't even harmful.

Even the World Health Organization argues against the use of that term.
http://www.who.int/diabetes/publications/Definition and diagnosis of diabetes_new.pdf

Use of ‘pre-diabetes’ is discouraged to avoid any stigma associated

with the word diabetes and the fact that many people do not progress to
diabetes as the term implies. In addition this focus on diabetes may divert
attention from the important and significantly increased cardiovascular​

risk.

 

[KeithP]

Pre-diabetes does in fact exist. They could call it something else to make it sound more scary, but the diagnosis is pretty accurate since people can live with prediabetes for a number of years before it turns into full fledged type 2 diabetes.

In fact, people can live their entire lives without it turning into full fledged type 2 diabetes. It is just more meaningless BS from yet another organization trying to justify its budget by stirring up sh@t.

-KeithP

 

[marincounty]

Doctor is warning my mother she is pre-diabetic, she is 87 years old. Give me a break.
I am pretty sure she would have gotten diabetes by now if she were susceptible.

 

[Mai72]

Damn.

Just ate a whole container of Ben and Jerry's.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Doctor is warning my mother she is pre-diabetic, she is 87 years old. Give me a break.
I am pretty sure she would have gotten diabetes by now if she were susceptible.

If I was her age I'd look at the doc and say, "So what?! I'm 87 I'm doing what I want!"

 

[WelshBloke]

Doctor is warning my mother she is pre-diabetic, she is 87 years old. Give me a break.
I am pretty sure she would have gotten diabetes by now if she were susceptible.

That's pretty normal for that age. Type 2 diabetes, for a long time, affects the old. I guess thats what happens after a lifetime of normal eating. The problem now is that people cram that normal lifetime of eating into a couple of decades and then get all shocked when things go tits up.

I'd not worry either much in your mum's situation but would you rather that her doctor kept secrets about her health from her?

 

[WelshBloke]

Oh and we did two above the knee amputations, one below the knee and five forefoot/random toe amputations this week due to diabetes on my ward.

 

[QueBert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KG912GXSaI

"2 doctors told me if I drink it, I'll die. But they died 1st" LOL this lady fucking awesome.

I hope this isn't the secret to life, because I can't stand Dr. Pepper.

We have an ooooooold man in our town, like 92, for the past 25 years all he's eaten was 2 whoppers with cheese a day for lunch. No breakfast, no dinner, just 2 Whoppers. Minus the few days BK's are closed for holidays, he's eaten over 18 thousand Whoppers with cheese.

 

[OverVolt]

http://www.cdc.gov/features/diabetesprevention/

This is insane. Luckily it's reversible. I'm pretty sure I was going down that road during my MMORPG days before I realized I was wasting my sweet genetics on something that will never matter in the end. People who are addicted to video gaming and/or TV shows and/or sugar, it's time to wake up now.

You can reverse this if you make that change today. First change what you eat, and then try to pack on muscle as a calorie burner. Otherwise you're going to be injecting yourself with an insulin needle for the rest of your life or need to wear a pump that will inject you for the rest of your life. Ask people here with diabetes if they would have done something if they knew they had prediabetes and I bet they would have. It's a terrible affliction and its ripple effects can be debilitating:

Just eat what everyone else eats they said.

Well... look where that gets the average person.

 

[WelshBloke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KG912GXSaI

"2 doctors told me if I drink it, I'll die. But they died 1st" LOL this lady fucking awesome.

I hope this isn't the secret to life, because I can't stand Dr. Pepper.

We have an ooooooold man in our town, like 92, for the past 25 years all he's eaten was 2 whoppers with cheese a day for lunch. No breakfast, no dinner, just 2 Whoppers. Minus the few days BK's are closed for holidays, he's eaten over 18 thousand Whoppers with cheese.

And Lemmy lived till he was 70.

Not seeing your point here?

 

[TheVrolok]

You'll be calling a plurality of people pre-diabetic, even a majority of people in some countries. If more than 50% of people are in a condition, then that condition is normal. It might not be a desired condition, it might not be the best possible condition, but it is not abnormal. And in this case it isn't even harmful.

Even the World Health Organization argues against the use of that term.
http://www.who.int/diabetes/publications/Definition and diagnosis of diabetes_new.pdf

Your "normal" argument borders on absurd in context. You are equating "majority in a population" with "normal physiology," which just isn't correct.

I can understand why the WHO recommends against using the term "prediabetes" per se, but that is not that same as the WHO suggesting the "condition" does not exist. Prediabetes is an umbrella term describing abnormal physiology of glucose homeostasis manifested by impaired fasting glucose, abnormal oral glucose tolerance test, or an above normal (yes, above normal) HgbA1c.

Saying it isn't "harmful" is also absolutely patently false. Are you honestly going to suggest that having a hemoglobin A1c of 6.5% (diabetes) confers harm but having a hemoglobin A1c of 6.4% (prediabetes) confers no harm? By the way, that A1c difference is a mere 3 mg/dL serum glucose difference - so now we're really splitting hairs.

I am pretty sure she would have gotten diabetes by now if she were susceptible.

... wat?

If I was her age I'd look at the doc and say, "So what?! I'm 87 I'm doing what I want!"

If I were the doc, that's exactly what I would say.

 

[ImpulsE69]

It's a bunch of blah over nothing. Diabetes is very manageable. Do I want it? No, but there are way more serious things to be concerned about and most of us are going to die of heart attacks or worse cancer. Seriously, I don't know why (other than sitting on pedestals talking down to everyone else) anyone would get that worked up over 'fatties'. Chances are they are going to outlive you anyway.

If you are that concerned about it, then do what you gotta do and quit worrying about everyone else. A warning is fine, but the conversation in this thread is the usual high and mighty BS coming from a bunch of people visiting a tech forum regularly to regurgitate every news article written.

 

[lxskllr]

It's easy to use a vinaigrette, just as tasty and more healthy than corn syrup laden dressings, but again people are too lazy to read the ingredients, or simply don't care.

My salad dressing is a bit of olive oil and balsamic or wine vinegar. Tastes good, and not a lot of crap.

 

[dullard]

Saying it isn't "harmful" is also absolutely patently false. Are you honestly going to suggest that having a hemoglobin A1c of 6.5% (diabetes) confers harm but having a hemoglobin A1c of 6.4% (prediabetes) confers no harm? By the way, that A1c difference is a mere 3 mg/dL serum glucose difference - so now we're really splitting hairs.

Saying it is "harmful" is absolutely patently false. Are you honestly going to suggest that having a hemoglobin A1c of 5.7% (pre-diabetes) confers harm but having a hemoglobin A1c of 5.6% (normal) confers no harm? By the way, that A1c difference is a mere 3 mg/dL serum glucose difference - so now we're really splitting hairs.

The vast majority of people with this so-called pre-diabetes live out life without any clinical symptoms other than they had at least one test that was slightly above what was once considered normal. They don't suddenly become diabetic, they don't suffer from the symptoms or early death, etc. Calling it a disease is not the correct way to handle medicine (as is backed up by experts such as those that I linked above).

If 6.4% is shown to be harmful or seriously leads to harmful diabetes in the future, then redefine diabetes down to 6.4% (or whatever level the best clinical data shows is important). Don't make up a fake pre-disease.

 

[TheVrolok]

Saying it is "harmful" is absolutely patently false. Are you honestly going to suggest that having a hemoglobin A1c of 5.7% (pre-diabetes) confers harm but having a hemoglobin A1c of 5.6% (normal) confers no harm? By the way, that A1c difference is a mere 3 mg/dL serum glucose difference - so now we're really splitting hairs.

The vast majority of people with this so-called pre-diabetes live out life without any clinical symptoms other than one test they took once in their life was slightly above what was once considered normal. They don't suddenly become diabetic, they don't have the symptoms or early death, etc. Calling it a disease is not the correct way to handle medicine (as is backed up by experts such as those that I linked above).

I don't think you're making the point you think you're making. Essentially you just reinforced what I stated earlier, it's a spectrum and yes, as the numbers climb risk does increase. Fail attempt at being clever.

 

[Jeff7]

Depends, is cancer a deal breaker for you?

Liver: You get a pancreas!
Lungs: You get a pancreas!
Brain: You get a pancreas!

Everybody gets a pancreas!

 

[brainhulk]

It's a bunch of blah over nothing. Diabetes is very manageable. Do I want it? No, but there are way more serious things to be concerned about and most of us are going to die of heart attacks or worse cancer. Seriously, I don't know why (other than sitting on pedestals talking down to everyone else) anyone would get that worked up over 'fatties'. Chances are they are going to outlive you anyway.

If you are that concerned about it, then do what you gotta do and quit worrying about everyone else. A warning is fine, but the conversation in this thread is the usual high and mighty BS coming from a bunch of people visiting a tech forum regularly to regurgitate every news article written.

it's manageable for people who are disciplined with their bs testing, diet, and insulin administration every day. there is a shitload of people that say fuck it, i ain't got time for all that (how they got diabeeetus in the 1st place). those are the people that end up dying

 

[pete6032]

I swear salads are one of the worst healthy foods people trying to diet seem to eat. Admittedly this is anecdotal, but it seems whenever someone is trying to diet they make salads, but hate salads, they use at least half a bottle of thousand island, ranch or caesar dressing to make it palatable. Congratulations, you just made a salad about as healthy has a Big Mac!

Yep. American idea of eating "healthy" is a big Caesar salad with a buttered Hawaiian sweet roll and a diet coke.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yep. American idea of eating "healthy" is a big Caesar salad with a buttered Hawaiian sweet roll and a diet coke.

I see that all the time, big mac with super size fry, and a diet coke. Why bother, you may as well just get a real coke at that point. LOL. The aspartame or whatever else they put in anything that says "diet" or "low sugar" is probably worse for you than the sugar anyway.

 

[QueBert]

And Lemmy lived till he was 70.

Not seeing your point here?

And I bet he didn't drink 3 Dr. Peppers a year for 50 years either.