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Shotgun robber no match for victim with handgun

Police say an armed robber got more than he bargained for Friday night when he targeted the wrong victim.

Just after 10 p.m. a 36-year-old man was confronted by a robber with a shotgun in the parking lot of the Walgreens located in the 3600 block of College. The man said the robber held the shotgun to his head and demanded money.

The man, a concealed handgun license holder, was able to get his handgun and fired one shot at the would-be robber. The robber dropped his shotgun and took off running fleeing south behind the store. The intended victim was not injured during this confrontation and he did not lose any property.

Patrol Officers set up a perimeter and with the assistance of our K-9 Unit began to search for the robber. An officer saw a man hiding behind a business near the area of Interstate 10 and Corley. The man matched the description of the robber. Police say the man also had a gunshot wound to his hip.

The original victim positively identified this man as the robber.

Beaumont EMS took the injured suspect to Christus Hospital St. Elizabeth for treatment. Officers then took him to the county jail. He has been charged with aggravated robbery as well as two outstanding warrants for burglary of a habitation and a pending warrant for a previous unrelated aggravated robbery.

Officers also found a vehicle near the scene of the robbery that had been reported stolen.

Police say an investigation revealed that the man had used this stolen vehicle during the commission of Saturday night's robbery attempt.

http://www.12newsnow.com/story/19253451/shotgun-robber-not-successful
 
The robber dropped his shotgun and ran away. I presume that a kill wound in the back would not be taken lightly by the authorities.
 
chusteczka said:
The robber dropped his shotgun and ran away. I presume that a kill wound in the back would not be taken lightly by the authorities.
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meh... he would have likely got away with it though. probably with some heat for sure, but anyone that puts a gun to my head deserves a bullet in their back.
 
For every story where a gun "saved" someone, there are hundreds where easy access to guns leads to tragedy. The net utility of loose gun policy is literally and figuratively in the red. Of course Americans are so desensitzed to gun violence that it probably doesn't matter anymore.
 
Dman8777 said:
For every story where a gun "saved" someone, there are hundreds where easy access to guns leads to tragedy. The net utility of loose gun policy is literally and figuratively in the red. Of course Americans are so desensitzed to gun violence that it probably doesn't matter anymore.
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And for every tragedy you hear about, there are thousands of gun owners who use their weapons responsibly. But they don't get their 15 minutes of fame.

I would love to hear your solution for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, while not restricting their use by law-abiding citizens.
 
Dman8777 said:
For every story where a gun "saved" someone, there are hundreds where easy access to guns leads to tragedy. The net utility of loose gun policy is literally and figuratively in the red. Of course Americans are so desensitzed to gun violence that it probably doesn't matter anymore.
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Bullshit.

You think that just because the government decides guns are illegal, criminals will give them up?

They're criminals. They don't follow laws. They won't give them up.

Seriously, your lack of common sense and rationality is astounding.

Gun control hurts more people than it helps. Not to mention the whole unconstutional thing.
 
I base my "common sense" on statistics. What are you basing yours on? In countries where guns are heavily regulated, they have fewer gun deaths and the ratio is anywhere from half to less than a tenth.

It's not hard to understand why so many people are incensed by these ideas. Most gun owners are responsible and gun control curtails their rights based on the misdeeds of a very small minority of them. However, the rights of 1000000 gun owners to own guns don't superceed the right of even 1 person to his/her life. That's imo of course.
 
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Dman8777 said:
I base my "common sense" on statistics. What are you basing yours on? In countries where guns are heavily regulated, they have fewer gun deaths and the ratio is anywhere from half to less than a tenth.
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I think what you just wrote is beyond comprehension for most Americans. But just in case, what are your sources?
 
Statistics be damned, better to have one and not need it than to NEED one and have none. The MFer who came over my fence had one and if he had been a better shot, I might not be here. Mine was in my safe, being legal.
 
Dman8777 said:
I base my "common sense" on statistics. What are you basing yours on? In countries where guns are heavily regulated, they have fewer gun deaths and the ratio is anywhere from half to less than a tenth.

It's not hard to understand why so many people are incensed by these ideas. Most gun owners are responsible and gun control curtails their rights based on the misdeeds of a very small minority of them. However, the rights of 1000000 gun owners to own guns don't superceed the right of even 1 person to his/her life. That's imo of course.
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There are more guns per capita in Canada than the USA and it's entirely different there. Also look at the state like Wyoming or Montana with less regulations compared to California the MOST regulated.
 
Dman8777 said:
I base my "common sense" on statistics. What are you basing yours on? In countries where guns are heavily regulated, they have fewer gun deaths and the ratio is anywhere from half to less than a tenth.

It's not hard to understand why so many people are incensed by these ideas. Most gun owners are responsible and gun control curtails their rights based on the misdeeds of a very small minority of them. However, the rights of 1000000 gun owners to own guns don't superceed the right of even 1 person to his/her life. That's imo of course.
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Again, your assertion that criminals are just going to give up and stop buying guns is based on absolutely nothing. Your stance is based on pure emotion.

I'd rather NOT have my rights abridged for any reason just because you lack rationality.
 
Dman8777 said:
I base my "common sense" on statistics. What are you basing yours on? In countries where guns are heavily regulated, they have fewer gun deaths and the ratio is anywhere from half to less than a tenth.

It's not hard to understand why so many people are incensed by these ideas. Most gun owners are responsible and gun control curtails their rights based on the misdeeds of a very small minority of them. However, the rights of 1000000 gun owners to own guns don't superceed the right of even 1 person to his/her life. That's imo of course.
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Guns PROVIDE gun owners with a right to live against violent assaults. Preventing one person from defending themselves with deadly force to attempt to prevent ten people from dying by armed robbers is basically the same argument people use to trivialize those that are falsely convicted of murder and executed.
 
Dman8777 said:
I base my "common sense" on statistics. What are you basing yours on? In countries where guns are heavily regulated, they have fewer gun deaths and the ratio is anywhere from half to less than a tenth.
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Bullshit! You're making stuff up.

Mexico has tough gun control laws, and their homicide rate is far worse than that of the USA. The US has one of the lowest homicide rates in the Western Hemisphere.

US homicide rate is lower than that of Africa, the Caribbean, Central America, South America, and Eastern Europe.

Here's the statistics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So quit making stuff up, and stop believing liberal propaganda.
 
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