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Interesting....

As soon as I found such a device, I would immediately go talk to a lawyer (after taking pictures etc), and hand the lawyer the device. There's no way I'd say a word to any LEO (fed, local, doesn't matter) without my lawyer saying it's OK. Nothing good can come of it. The general public tends to naively believe that if you haven't done anything wrong you should just go ahead and talk to them and answer their questions. Sometimes that's true, but sometimes that's not, better safe than sorry.
 
Pneumothorax said:
Oh gawd, IF we were in the middle of Obama's 2nd term and somehow the Dems kept super-majority control of both houses of congress, you'd still be Buh-Buh-Bushing....
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If the shoe fits...

Various presidents have lasting legacies. Lincoln won the Civil War and freed the slaves. TR busted the Trusts and created the national park and forest system. FDR instituted the New Deal, Won WW2, interned Japanese Americans. Johnson pushed the civil rights acts, escalated in Vietnam, and began the Great Society. GWB fearmongered passage of the Patriot Act, invaded Iraq, actively promoted the greatest looting spree in the history of finance.

The past is immutable, shaping the present and the future, regardless of whatever revisionist spin might be applied to it.
 
they should track all foreigners. but if i found such a device, i'd have fun with it, capture a wild animal and attach the device to it, they'd find hell trying to chase a rabbit in the woods not to mention question thier asses off. lol
 
Double Trouble said:
As soon as I found such a device, I would immediately go talk to a lawyer (after taking pictures etc), and hand the lawyer the device. There's no way I'd say a word to any LEO (fed, local, doesn't matter) without my lawyer saying it's OK. Nothing good can come of it. The general public tends to naively believe that if you haven't done anything wrong you should just go ahead and talk to them and answer their questions. Sometimes that's true, but sometimes that's not, better safe than sorry.
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This is the best way to handle this kind of situation. The presumption of innocence should outweigh any of this Patriot Act paranoia.
 
Jhhnn said:
The US govt is large enough, MotF Bane, that nobody can really take control of every aspect of it in less that 2 years. That's particularly true wrt entrenched parts of the organization that have been semi-autonomous for decades, like the FBI.

I'm sure that the field agents and their immediate supervisors feel that they're acting within the guidelines of repubs' patriot act and past practice. It's not like any Admin has the time or the inclination to reach out and personally oversee every aspect of their operations, nor is it fair to say that the Obama Admin is necessarily pleased with the idea that the Bureau operates this way, but they're stuck with it so long as the partisan ravings of guys like Mitch McConnell strike a chord in the electorate.

Hell, the responses from the usual ravers in this thread alone ought to tell us that....
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At least you're willing to admit that the federal government is too large to be controlled. So, when do we start to shrink it?
 
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