Caught someone cheating on a test (unwittingly confessed into a mic)

[tami]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I say that your a pu§§y if you tell on him. Plain and simple. I mean, sure it could be wrong or what not (in your opinion), but who the he|| cares?

wtf is with your funny formatting of hell and pussy? :roll:

take him down. if he kept it to himself, then fine. but he didn't. he told, and he wanted to look cool. well, he wouldn't look cool anymore if he got in trouble.

do something to that ego of his.

and yes, do it anonymously.

 

[Queasy]

720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-1, -2: An eavesdropping device cannot be used to record or overhear a conversation without the consent of all parties to the conversation under criminal statutes. An eavesdropping device is anything used to hear or record a conversation, whether the conversation is in person or conducted by any means other than face-to-face conversation, such as a telephone conversation.

In addition, it is criminally punishable to disclose information one knows or should know was obtained through an eavesdropping device. Offenses of the eavesdropping law are punishable as felonies, with first offenses categorized as lesser felonies than subsequent offenses. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-4. Civil liability for actual and punitive damages is authorized as well. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-6.

Just telling the administration that this guy told you and your friends that he cheated off this girl should be enough. They'll investigate and likely catch him. You shouldn't even have to tell them about the recording.

 

[weirdichi]

With great drivers, come great responsibilities. Let all the others stand idley by while the guy talkin on the cell phone at the pizza place gets beat up by the woman's gorilla boyfriend. I'm not sayin any of the other people could've stood up to the guy, but at least do SOMETHING! All the people who are against narcing are probably in HS also. I can't believe all those that just would let the guy go and hope that he'll get caught later. The OP even said that the guy's cheated before. This guy's time has come. Do as other have suggested and drop it off in the office.

 

[complacent]

For one thing, he would need to hire a lawyer and press charges. I doubt his parents would do that.

Second, they can do a statisical collusion detectionanalysis between their exams and catch him that way.

Third, did he access a computer to get her answers? If so, there is a record of it,

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

Originally posted by: complacent
For one thing, he would need to hire a lawyer and press charges. I doubt his parents would do that.

Second, they can do a statisical collusion detectionanalysis between their exams and catch him that way.

Third, did he access a computer to get her answers? If so, there is a record of it,

Nope, no computers were accessed, he just picked up the scantron.


Any help on drivers for the DJ? Although I think that uploading the files here may be wrong.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
All I'm saying is, there's a reason why people hate "tattle tells"

I bet you cheat.

 

[Gibson486]

OK, everyone here is making this a bigger deal than it really is....

kid cheated wrong....it was wrong

He secretly recorded him....while not as bad, that is still wrong.

If you have to ask whether it is right to tell on him, maybe, or maybe not, its your gut telling you to leave the situation alone. Don't turn this into some moral dilemma.

 

[tikwanleap]

Just turn him in anonymously.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: complacent
Cheating hurts everyone. You need to make a copy of it and anonymously drop it off at the principles office. It IS your business; his cheating hurt you just as much as the girl he cheated from.

Are you serious? How on earth does this guys cheating hurt the OP assuming there is no curve?

As per the OP, don't be a narc bastard.

By turning him in, he's doing him a favor. If you get away with cheating the whole time, you don't learn, and when you get out into the real world the only way you can make any progress is by continuing to lie and bs your way through, but in the end you're found out to be a fony and end up unemployed or in a bad position with no way of promotion.

If he's disciplined now, he won't cheat again if he thinks he'll get caught. Going forward he will have to earn his grades which will benefit him in the end.

Besdies, it's not so much the cheating that should bother you, but the ego he has developed doing it.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: complacent

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Aharami
the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him

The bolded part is why you narc on them, people end up with responsbility later in life and do you want the guy that cheated his way through life in charge of decisions that could put your life in danger?

There are many professions out there where bad or uninformed decisions can result in the deaths of innocent people and cheaters can end up those positions. Think about that the next time you think you shouldn't turn someone in.

I agree. Do you want an accountant who cheated his way through school to do your taxes?

There was an article in the papera few years ago about rampant cheating in engineering departments. It was described as a plague and included some very scary allegations.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Landroval

Originally posted by: complacent

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Aharami
the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him

The bolded part is why you narc on them, people end up with responsbility later in life and do you want the guy that cheated his way through life in charge of decisions that could put your life in danger?

There are many professions out there where bad or uninformed decisions can result in the deaths of innocent people and cheaters can end up those positions. Think about that the next time you think you shouldn't turn someone in.

I agree. Do you want an accountant who cheated his way through school to do your taxes?

There was an article in the papera few years ago about rampant cheating in engineering departments. It was described as a plague and included some very scary allegations.

cheating happens alot in engineering school.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Landroval

Originally posted by: complacent

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Aharami
the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him

The bolded part is why you narc on them, people end up with responsbility later in life and do you want the guy that cheated his way through life in charge of decisions that could put your life in danger?

There are many professions out there where bad or uninformed decisions can result in the deaths of innocent people and cheaters can end up those positions. Think about that the next time you think you shouldn't turn someone in.

I agree. Do you want an accountant who cheated his way through school to do your taxes?

There was an article in the papera few years ago about rampant cheating in engineering departments. It was described as a plague and included some very scary allegations.

cheating happens alot in engineering school.

Comforting... I guess it's ok if our physicians cheat, too. I mean it's not like anything bad can happen when a selfish, lazy, or stupid asshat engages in a harmless prank...

 

[UglyCasanova]

Yet further proof that no one on here (except for sampson of course) will ever, EVER get laid. You are in high school, this stuff doesn't matter anyways. People cheat, it sucks. Get over it.

 

[complacent]

Here is a firsthand story about faking knowledge:

I am 24 years old and work in a medium sized hospital. My background is in Computer Science. I am working on a very large project for the hospital, integrating very many large systems. I have one team member that does the same work that I do, with 25+ years of experience in Radiology. She is 50 years old. They paid for her to come up here and help me with the project, and she was supposed to be my boss. However, her motto is "fake it till ya make it" and it shows. They have since reversed their decision, based upon her lack of knowledge that she professed to have, and I have since been given the near 6-figure salaray promotion she was SUPPOSED to get. Would I have gotten this promotion if I had never once reported on her lack of progress and let her ride my coat tails? No.

Cheating and faking it hurt a lot of people. I have had to carry the burden of this project and do literally 95% of the work because no one ever exposed her as a cheater.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Landroval

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Landroval

Originally posted by: complacent

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Aharami
the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him

The bolded part is why you narc on them, people end up with responsbility later in life and do you want the guy that cheated his way through life in charge of decisions that could put your life in danger?

There are many professions out there where bad or uninformed decisions can result in the deaths of innocent people and cheaters can end up those positions. Think about that the next time you think you shouldn't turn someone in.

I agree. Do you want an accountant who cheated his way through school to do your taxes?

There was an article in the papera few years ago about rampant cheating in engineering departments. It was described as a plague and included some very scary allegations.

cheating happens alot in engineering school.

Comforting... I guess it's ok if our physicians cheat, too. I mean it's not like anything bad can happen when a selfish, lazy, or stupid asshat engages in a harmless prank...

It is scary....and I am scared to go under the new built tunnel in Boston because if it.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
OK, everyone here is making this a bigger deal than it really is....

kid cheated wrong....it was wrong

He secretly recorded him....while not as bad, that is still wrong.

If you have to ask whether it is right to tell on him, maybe, or maybe not, its your gut telling you to leave the situation alone. Don't turn this into some moral dilemma.

If your morals are determined by your gut feelings, I just don't know what to say.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Gibson486
OK, everyone here is making this a bigger deal than it really is....

kid cheated wrong....it was wrong

He secretly recorded him....while not as bad, that is still wrong.

If you have to ask whether it is right to tell on him, maybe, or maybe not, its your gut telling you to leave the situation alone. Don't turn this into some moral dilemma.

If your morals are determined by your gut feelings, I just don't know what to say.

Dude, this is in no way a moral dilemma.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: Baked
Snitch. You gonna get killed by a drive-by.

You from Baltimore?

Anyway, narc on his stupid ass. Survival of the fittest; he gave you a leg up on him, take it.

And because I feel like it, my philosophy is that if you can sell anyone out for your own good, you should do it with VERY few exceptions. You can trust very few people, very few people should trust you.

You ruthless, bloodthirsty, sick cruel bastard.

...

If I were gay, I'd love you.

- M4H

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Gibson486
OK, everyone here is making this a bigger deal than it really is....

kid cheated wrong....it was wrong

He secretly recorded him....while not as bad, that is still wrong.

If you have to ask whether it is right to tell on him, maybe, or maybe not, its your gut telling you to leave the situation alone. Don't turn this into some moral dilemma.

If your morals are determined by your gut feelings, I just don't know what to say.

Dude, this is in no way a moral dilemma.

Do I look like a dude to you? Would you like to explain your statement, or should I just take your word for it?

 

[complacent]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
Dude, this is in no way a moral dilemma.

Do you know the meaning of those two words? A moral dilemma is a situation where you are unsure whether you should or shouldn't do something solely because you are unsure whether or not it is ethically right or wrong.

It has beens stated that he can do it without being caught. The fact that he is unsure whether it is right or wrong, not out of fear of being caught, makes it, by definition, a moral dilemma.

You don't win a lot of arguments do you?

 

[axelfox]

anonymous cd

 

[complacent]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
Dude, this is in no way a moral dilemma.

You must have cheated on the reading comprehension tests.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
It is scary....and I am scared to go under the new built tunnel in Boston because if it.

As a CE the articles I have read about the tunnel indicate the problems are not as severe as the press is making them out to be. Yes the leaks are bad, yes they have compromised some of the fire suppression/protection systems but the leaks can be sealed. The turnpike authority appears to be dragging their feet because they wish to do a thorough analysis of the problem before attempting a fix so they don't waste money as the current problems are fairly minor and it's buying them time to study the problem thorougly and ensure there isn't a deeper and more complex issue involved.

Many people many not realize it but I believe every CE firm on ENR's (Engineer News Record) top 10 list had significant contract work on the central artery project. It was and will continue to be one of the most complex construction projects ever attempted and turned out rather well given the climate and the problems encountered during construction.

 

[bootymac]

You guys are just as bastard-like as he is for recording him

If it was me, I wouldn't tell, and give him props. But that's just me. Otherwise tell the girl and let her deal with it

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Queasy

720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-1, -2: An eavesdropping device cannot be used to record or overhear a conversation without the consent of all parties to the conversation under criminal statutes. An eavesdropping device is anything used to hear or record a conversation, whether the conversation is in person or conducted by any means other than face-to-face conversation, such as a telephone conversation.

In addition, it is criminally punishable to disclose information one knows or should know was obtained through an eavesdropping device. Offenses of the eavesdropping law are punishable as felonies, with first offenses categorized as lesser felonies than subsequent offenses. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-4. Civil liability for actual and punitive damages is authorized as well. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-6.

Just telling the administration that this guy told you and your friends that he cheated off this girl should be enough. They'll investigate and likely catch him. You shouldn't even have to tell them about the recording.

Ahem, you should have looked up case law first...

"Illinois is, by statute, a two-party state. However, case law from both the IL Supreme Court and various Illinois appellate courts have declared Illinois a one-party state in the case of private citizens (businesses and plain folks - NOT law enforcement). The reigning consensus is that one-party consensual recording is merely "enhanced note-taking" and since some folks have total recall without recording, how can the other party have any expectation of privacy to a conversation held with another person.

Illinois requires prior consent of all participants to monitor or record a phone conversation. Ill. Rev. Stat. Ch. 38, Sec. 14-2. There is no specific business telephone exception, but in general courts have found extension telephones do not constitute eavesdropping devices. Criminal penalties for unlawful eavesdropping include up to three years' imprisonment or $10,000 in fines and the civil remedy provides for recovery of actual and punitive damages.

In the state of Illinois it is illegal to monitor cordless phones"