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Caught someone cheating on a test (unwittingly confessed into a mic)

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phisrow

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Sep 6, 2004
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Definitely terminate the guy, as hard as possible. Academic dishonesty is absolutely the worst thing that a student, qua student, can possibly be guilty of. The fellow really ought, in a perfect world, to have the test zeroed, a failing grade in the class, an expulsion, and a nice mark in the old record. It would be good taste to give him notice, a short formal letter would do, so that he can do the honorable thing and turn himself in, but if he doesn't do that, let him burn(if he does do that, still let him burn, because he's still guilty of gross academic misconduct).
 

Aharami

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Aug 31, 2001
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the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him
 

MrScott81

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Aug 31, 2001
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I think the dude deserved to be narced on, since he was dumb enough to brag about it in the first place...

I'm not saying I've never cheated, I'm just saying, when and if I did, I sure as hell wasn't bragging to anyone about it.
 

3chordcharlie

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Mar 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: complacent
Cheating hurts everyone. You need to make a copy of it and anonymously drop it off at the principles office. It IS your business; his cheating hurt you just as much as the girl he cheated from.

It doesn't hurt him at all. He'll still get his grade.

Yes, it does. It hurts everyone who doesn't cheat.

BTW - are there rules about recording such a conversation without consent? I suspect that there are.
 

MrScott81

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: complacent
Cheating hurts everyone. You need to make a copy of it and anonymously drop it off at the principles office. It IS your business; his cheating hurt you just as much as the girl he cheated from.

It doesn't hurt him at all. He'll still get his grade.

Yes, it does. It hurts everyone who doesn't cheat.

BTW - are there rules about recording such a conversation without consent? I suspect that there are.

Who cares about consent.

 

3chordcharlie

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Mar 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: MrScott81
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: complacent
Cheating hurts everyone. You need to make a copy of it and anonymously drop it off at the principles office. It IS your business; his cheating hurt you just as much as the girl he cheated from.

It doesn't hurt him at all. He'll still get his grade.

Yes, it does. It hurts everyone who doesn't cheat.

BTW - are there rules about recording such a conversation without consent? I suspect that there are.

Who cares about consent.

Intentionally recording the conversation may be a crime.
 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Intentionally recording the conversation may be a crime.

Depends on the state and how it applies to the situation.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Intentionally recording the conversation may be a crime.

Depends on the state and how it applies to the situation.

That's why I'm asking, not telling;)

It is quite possible that the recording is illegal, unless a warrant was obtained, which is definitely not the case here.

I still think the OP should report the cheating, but before he divulges that a recording exists, it would be intelligent to find out whether making the recording was legal.
 

Gibson486

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Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: MrScott81
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: complacent
Cheating hurts everyone. You need to make a copy of it and anonymously drop it off at the principles office. It IS your business; his cheating hurt you just as much as the girl he cheated from.

It doesn't hurt him at all. He'll still get his grade.

Yes, it does. It hurts everyone who doesn't cheat.

BTW - are there rules about recording such a conversation without consent? I suspect that there are.

Who cares about consent.

Intentionally recording the conversation may be a crime.

it doesn't matter. The OP is no better because he was being just as sneaky by secretly recording him.

 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Intentionally recording the conversation may be a crime.

Depends on the state and how it applies to the situation.

That's why I'm asking, not telling;)

It is quite possible that the recording is illegal, unless a warrant was obtained, which is definitely not the case here.

I still think the OP should report the cheating, but before he divulges that a recording exists, it would be intelligent to find out whether making the recording was legal.

Well, he's a minor so the worse he'll get is a slap on the wrist if it is illegal. It's not like they'll send him to "bang him in the ass" prison.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
it doesn't matter. The OP is no better because he was being just as sneaky by secretly recording him.

This is not an academic offense, and may have been perfectly legal.

I would cover my bases on that though; in fact I would have checked before I made the recording.
 

EyeMWing

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Jun 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Baked
Snitch. You gonna get killed by a drive-by.

You from Baltimore? :p

Anyway, narc on his stupid ass. Survival of the fittest; he gave you a leg up on him, take it.

And because I feel like it, my philosophy is that if you can sell anyone out for your own good, you should do it with VERY few exceptions. You can trust very few people, very few people should trust you.
 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Gibson486
it doesn't matter. The OP is no better because he was being just as sneaky by secretly recording him.

Errrr....no.

 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Chraticn
The AP biology classes at our school are split into 2 class periods, 2 and 4. There's a girl in two who works ridiculously hard and (obviously) does quite well on the tests. We had a major test recently, and this completely scummy kid decided to sneak into second block while their teacher was out and everyone was on the computers, find that girl's scantron, copy the answers into notebook paper, then memorize those answers and use them on his own test.


Of course, he has a huge ego, so he tells me and several other bio students while we're in gym. So, today, we just asked him to retell the story while my friend was holding his Dell DJ at hip level. What we have is a step by step of how he ripped off this girl's test answers.

I wish I could upload the actual .wav, but the DJ isn't recognized by my computer, as I don't have the drivers for it.

So how do I go about this? This kid is an absolute bastage and needs to be taken down.


Get him. He may be ramping up for something spectacular if you don't shut him down now. I'd lay dollars to donuts this is not the only thing he's doing; it's the only offense you know about.

Just go to the teacher or administration with the recording and be up front about it with them. They'll be far more mature about it than this crowd.

Let us know how it turns out.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: Aharami
the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him

The bolded part is why you narc on them, people end up with responsbility later in life and do you want the guy that cheated his way through life in charge of decisions that could put your life in danger?

There are many professions out there where bad or uninformed decisions can result in the deaths of innocent people and cheaters can end up those positions. Think about that the next time you think you shouldn't turn someone in.
 

complacent

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Dec 22, 2004
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You are all a bunch of unethical, immature fools. Tattling is a word reserved for someone who tells the actions of another when those actions do not affect that person. If Timmy eats a cookie before dinner, and Betsy tells on him, it is tattling. If Timmy steals a cookie from a store and Betsy tells on him, it is being responsible.

You need to let officials know because it adversely affects everyone at that school. You my be able to change this individuals life by preventing him from cheating and forcing him to study.

I would assume that the majority of you that call names and say things like tattle-tale and narc have cheated before, don't care what happens to those around you, and I doubt any one of you holds a decent, high paying job or even a 4 year college degree.
 

complacent

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Dec 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: Aharami
the best thing you can do is to let him go. cheaters never prosper. by you letting him go now, he's going to get more and more bold - and evetually get caught in college...where he'd get expelled for cheating. or worse, he's going to get caught in real life and either be fired or put in jail.

but by you turning him in now, he will get cautious and a) cheat carefully, or b) not cheat.

this guy deserves to fail in life...let him

The bolded part is why you narc on them, people end up with responsbility later in life and do you want the guy that cheated his way through life in charge of decisions that could put your life in danger?

There are many professions out there where bad or uninformed decisions can result in the deaths of innocent people and cheaters can end up those positions. Think about that the next time you think you shouldn't turn someone in.

I agree. Do you want an accountant who cheated his way through school to do your taxes?