Caught my roommate smoking pot in his room lastnight...

[meltdown75]

just read the update...

so he was giving people his key so they could "come over and smoke"?

that's kinda wrong.

anyway, good update. lay down the law a bit, make some rules, etc. you are obviously in a position to do so.

 

[Roguestar]

I read half this thread then got sick of the BS.

Christ, I'm not an American and even I know your laws better than some of you. You cannot just go into someone else's room if they privately rent from you. You cannot go through his stuff or unlock his door or let yourself in, regardless of who owns the title deeds to the property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Edit: My my, some of you really are blind to how many casual pot users there are out there and how little the average person actually cares about whether other people do it. The "dangers" of pot include realising your job sucks, chilling out, eating whatever's in the fridge and telling your friends you love them. A far cry from the legal drug alcohol; barfights, stabbings, muggings, alcoholism. I've never seen a fight in a bar started by someone lighting up and then glassing another guy in the face, have you?

 

[imported_griffis]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
I read half this thread then got sick of the BS.

Christ, I'm not an American and even I know your laws better than some of you. You cannot just go into someone else's room if they privately rent from you. You cannot go through his stuff or unlock his door or let yourself in, regardless of who owns the title deeds to the property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Edit: My my, some of you really are blind to how many casual pot users there are out there and how little the average person actually cares about whether other people do it. The "dangers" of pot include realising your job sucks, chilling out, eating whatever's in the fridge and telling your friends you love them. A far cry from the legal drug alcohol; barfights, stabbings, muggings, alcoholism. I've never seen a fight in a bar started by someone lighting up and then glassing another guy in the face, have you?

Seeing as you are from another country you must be unable to read english. The door that was locked was the front door not his roommate's door and since no lease was signed and his parents own it, that entitles just about anyone to walk in that room even if he did.

The fourth amendment usually applies to police searches not necessarily person to person. Since there is no tenant/landlord agreement set in place though this doesn't apply.


Holy crap, you are also saying that alcohol leads to stabbings,muggings and barfights? Jesus, you just solved the whole nation's problem with one sentence.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
I read half this thread then got sick of the BS.

Christ, I'm not an American and even I know your laws better than some of you. You cannot just go into someone else's room if they privately rent from you. You cannot go through his stuff or unlock his door or let yourself in, regardless of who owns the title deeds to the property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Edit: My my, some of you really are blind to how many casual pot users there are out there and how little the average person actually cares about whether other people do it. The "dangers" of pot include realising your job sucks, chilling out, eating whatever's in the fridge and telling your friends you love them. A far cry from the legal drug alcohol; barfights, stabbings, muggings, alcoholism. I've never seen a fight in a bar started by someone lighting up and then glassing another guy in the face, have you?

you fail at arguing and reading. nothing you said applies.

 

[preslove]

You're not a tool. You're an asshole.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1


1. My parents control my life. They own the condo we are staying in and they own my car.

2. They've already taken my car for a week once because they caught him smoking cigarettes on the porch with the door open.

#1 is the source of your problem. You should fix this, now. You are obviously not standing up for yourself. If your parents want to help you out, then they should help you. They should not hold their "help" over your head and use it to control you. If they do, you should refuse (or at least very strongly consider whether it's worth accepting) such help.

And as a side note, your parents should WANT you to be independent, because that's how it will be when you get into the real world. You will have to make decisions for yourself and not base all your decisions off what they would think. They are interfering with this process by "controlling your life" now, perhaps you should bring this up to them as a problem, and discuss it as adults.


#2 just shows that your parents are retarded. Letting retarded people have a high degree of control over you is not a good idea. Even if they are your parents.

 

[imported_griffis]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: SithSolo1


1. My parents control my life. They own the condo we are staying in and they own my car.

2. They've already taken my car for a week once because they caught him smoking cigarettes on the porch with the door open.

#1 is the source of your problem. You should fix this, now. You are obviously not standing up for yourself. If your parents want to help you out, then they should help you. They should not hold their "help" over your head and use it to control you. If they do, you should refuse (or at least very strongly consider whether it's worth accepting) such help.

And as a side note, your parents should WANT you to be independent, because that's how it will be when you get into the real world. You will have to make decisions for yourself and not base all your decisions off what they would think. They are interfering with this process by "controlling your life" now, perhaps you should bring this up to them as a problem, and discuss it as adults.


#2 just shows that your parents are retarded. Letting retarded people have a high degree of control over you is not a good idea. Even if they are your parents.

Honestly how old are you ebay? Seriously, the guy is in college, most kids cannot afford to live on their own in college. I personally did but I also worked 50 hours a week to do it plus school. Most people don't do that so if his parents are helping out go for it.


THE ROOMMATE IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PARENTS

/thread

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: griffis
/thread

Hey, can we leave the thread open for a bit? Please? Thanks man.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: griffis

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: SithSolo1


1. My parents control my life. They own the condo we are staying in and they own my car.

2. They've already taken my car for a week once because they caught him smoking cigarettes on the porch with the door open.

#1 is the source of your problem. You should fix this, now. You are obviously not standing up for yourself. If your parents want to help you out, then they should help you. They should not hold their "help" over your head and use it to control you. If they do, you should refuse (or at least very strongly consider whether it's worth accepting) such help.

And as a side note, your parents should WANT you to be independent, because that's how it will be when you get into the real world. You will have to make decisions for yourself and not base all your decisions off what they would think. They are interfering with this process by "controlling your life" now, perhaps you should bring this up to them as a problem, and discuss it as adults.


#2 just shows that your parents are retarded. Letting retarded people have a high degree of control over you is not a good idea. Even if they are your parents.

Honestly how old are you ebay? Seriously, the guy is in college, most kids cannot afford to live on their own in college. I personally did but I also worked 50 hours a week to do it plus school. Most people don't do that so if his parents are helping out go for it.


THE ROOMMATE IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PARENTS

/thread

In the post that you quoted, Did I mention ANYTHING about ANYONE doing ANYTHING illegal? No.

I was just saying that this guy has a much bigger problem. Not standing up for himself. Basically he needs to grow the fvck up.

 

[Fern]

After reading your update. I think this thread should take a new direction.

But first let me say the situation with your roomate sounds a bit different now. Handing out his keys for others to come when none of you are there? H@ll no. etc. And he's not just doing the ocaisional bong by himself in his own room etc.

You seem to say that the primary reason he is your roommate is that your mother and his are good friends. OK

Then you say that your parents took away "your" car for a week because HE was smoking cigs on the fron porch. WTH????

Why are YOU punished for his activites? Particularly if both your mothers are such friends. Why does your mother not speak to him, or his mother?

I see that you're under your parent's thumb, so to speak, and they are strict etc. What I don't get is why they punish YOU for stuff he does.

I'm not tell you to grow and be independant etc. Just get through school etc.

Given that your parents are seem very controlling, live nearby, and as owners may know some of the other older people who own condo's - I think your in a situation tha's gonna blow at some point. If they don't hear of these parties (with 5 or 6 people) from some neighbor they are likely gonna walk in one day and surprise these people. And you're gonna pay.

So the threat here, IMHO, is not the police, but your parents. You say you have already spoken to hom several times, I doubt another talk will work, but try it.

You may also want to speak with your parents, but only if you can merely tell them he is "breaking" the rules. DON'T rat on your friend and give them any details. Thye already know he smokes cigs on teh porch. If they wanna think thats what your talking about , fine.

Bottom line, he may need to move out.

Fern

 

[Gulzakar]

I couldn't handle your parents.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I dont blame you at all. It is your clear your parents have serious control issues(amongst other things) and that has made you the timid little sheep you are today. Blame your parents. Get out on your own as soon as possible before its too late...with some work you can still avoid turning out like them.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: griffis

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: SithSolo1


1. My parents control my life. They own the condo we are staying in and they own my car.

2. They've already taken my car for a week once because they caught him smoking cigarettes on the porch with the door open.

#1 is the source of your problem. You should fix this, now. You are obviously not standing up for yourself. If your parents want to help you out, then they should help you. They should not hold their "help" over your head and use it to control you. If they do, you should refuse (or at least very strongly consider whether it's worth accepting) such help.

And as a side note, your parents should WANT you to be independent, because that's how it will be when you get into the real world. You will have to make decisions for yourself and not base all your decisions off what they would think. They are interfering with this process by "controlling your life" now, perhaps you should bring this up to them as a problem, and discuss it as adults.


#2 just shows that your parents are retarded. Letting retarded people have a high degree of control over you is not a good idea. Even if they are your parents.

Honestly how old are you ebay? Seriously, the guy is in college, most kids cannot afford to live on their own in college. I personally did but I also worked 50 hours a week to do it plus school. Most people don't do that so if his parents are helping out go for it.


THE ROOMMATE IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PARENTS

/thread

In the post that you quoted, Did I mention ANYTHING about ANYONE doing ANYTHING illegal? No.

I was just saying that this guy has a much bigger problem. Not standing up for himself. Basically he needs to grow the fvck up.

because he's being supported by his parents while in school? Looks like you need to grow up. There's nothing wrong with being pissed at a roommate who keeps smoking inside when you ask him not to, brings friends over to smoke without permission, when he doesn't pay half of the utilities.

 

[tomywishbone]

"You are an idiot", appears to be the obvious winner in your poll. I concur.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: uberman
You should start an "intervention." Marijuana is a gateway drug. Get about ten people together to meet with him one evening. Have it be a surprise, focus on the dangers of marijuana and why it's ruining his life.

Get him into a rehab program and he's set.

Please tell me that is a joke.

If it is not, then wow, just wow.

 

[JasonE4]

Should be "Caught my roommate smoking pot without me in his room last night..."

 

[imported_griffis]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: griffis
/thread

Hey, can we leave the thread open for a bit? Please? Thanks man.

That was cute

 

[The Green Bean]

you need to kick that rat out

/thread

 

[Captante]

Voted for idiot before reading the update.

Now I'd say talk to him & make him promise to follow your rules & if he breaks them ONCE, I'd say kick him out considering the circumstances... you have too much to lose.

Note however, that you really need to move out of your parents condo as soon as you finish school unless they agree to respect your privacy.

 

[DefDC]

Originally posted by: JasonE4
Should be "Caught my roommate smoking pot without me in his room last night..."

:thumbsup:

However, if the friend is getting a great deal living in a nice condo, he should cool it and follow the rules. Especially if the OP's nutty parents are punishing HIM things that he does.

Or he should just do like I did, and live in a $hithole and do what you want! I loved my college slum!

And legalize it, BTW! I haven't touched it in years, but I had some GOOOOOD times.



Snip from the comedian Bill Hicks (RIP)

I just cannot, you know, believe in a war against drugs when they've got anti-drug commercials on TV all day long, followed by, "This Bud's for you." I got news for you, folks. A-1, alcohol is a drug, and B-2, and here's the real one, alcohol kills more people than crack, coke and heroin ... combined each year. So, thanks for inviting me to your little alcoholic/drug den here tonight. You fine, upstanding citizens, you, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Now. You know what, if I was going to have a drug be legal, it would not be alcohol, you know why? There's better drugs and better drugs for you. That's a fact, so you can stop your internal dialogue. Wait a minute, Bill, alcohol is an accepted form of social interaction which for thousands of years has been the norm under which human beings have congregated in the form of social events and... Shut the ****** up. Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you.

Pot is a better drug than alcohol - fact, and I'll prove it. You're at a ballgame, you're at a concert, someone's really violent, aggressive and obnoxious, are they drunk or are they smoking pot? (Audience) Drunk! The one and only correct answer, tell them what they've won, Johnny. I have never seen people on pot get in a fight because... it is ****** impossible!

Hey, buddy.

Hey, what?

End of argument.

Say you get in a car accident, and you've been smoking pot. You're only going four miles an hour. Vroom... CRASH. ******, we hit something. Forgot to open the garage door, man. We got to get the garage door open so Domino's knows we're home!

 

[bobsmith1492]

Well, I went through the same thing (I made a thread at some point here...). I tried to talk to the guy but he just hid in his room and wouldn't come out. I couldn't live with that reek all the time; plus, it gave me a headache and I didn't want to get in trouble. So, I ended up talking to the RA, who just called the campus security. They came over and, like any good car mechanic, didn't smell anything so they couldn't go into his room. He got upset and took off with his girlfriend for the night; I moved out a day or two later and have tried to avoid him since. I doubt he'll get anywhere with his schooling anyway. It really is tough; he was a very likable fellow, and now he thinks I'm a snitch or whatever. Plus, I had to pay a couple hundred bucks extra for a single room. Anyway, I can't say what to do; if you can't get anywhere talking to him, then.... sometimes you have to do what you have to do. It's tough either way.

 

[LtPage1]

Normally, I'd call you an idiot, but after reading your clarification, and the idiocy of living 5 minutes away from key-wielding parents notwithstanding, it sounds like you've done your best. Find a new roommate.

 

[bluemax]

All the guys in here saying "pot is harmless" are the REAL idiots.

I've seen too many people close to me slowly ruined by the $hit.

Not to mention the pot smoking kids in the apartment next to mine (a few years back) utterly destroyed the place by the smell, burn holes in the carpet, and just being the doped-out bums they were. They had to gut the apartment after they were evicted for non-payment. I guess that's what happens when you spend all day doing nothing - it doesn't pay well.


Kick his butt out of the place before he ruins it with smoke, burns, and sloppiness associated with stoner stupidity.

And let it be known I *do* classify alcohol in the drug category. What friends and family weren't ruined by pot were done in by alcohol. Hooray.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Confront him rationally. Give him the option. He can obey the rules, or he can get out. Period. Nothing to feel bad about at all.

My friends know very well how I feel about drugs and none would EVER dishonor me by bringing them into my house. Well, not since I beat the living crap out of one friend who tried it, and flushed his stuff down the toilet.

 

[clamum]

Sounds like your parents are lame.