Caught my roommate smoking pot in his room lastnight...

[Maximilian]

He *WAS* your best friend and you consider making his life a hell? Gawd... im glad im not your frickin friend. Just replace him, simple as.

He needs to live with somone more easy going and less lame :roll:

 

[CKent]

Ask him not to smoke indoors, it stinks and is against rules you've agreed to. Don't concern yourself with what he does outdoors, as long as he fulfills his obligation to you (pays rent).

 

[Atheus]

It is your right to tell him not to smoke indoors so do it if you want to. Be angry - he will comply.

Don't be a dick about pot in general though, there's nothing wrong with it.

 

[goatjc]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: aidanjm
since when is smoking pot some great sin. what exactly is the problem.

Who said anything about it being a "sin"?

Last I checked, pot is illegal. While having pot illegal is one of the stupidest laws we have in the US, it is STILL illegal.

I'm glad we are all law students here. To help the OP out, this is what I would recommend w/o busting your roomate's balls. Tell him to keep his pot, paraphernalia etc in his direct possesion (keep it to his room, his car, his own body). This will protect you for the unlikely event a cop comes to your house (because we all know cops are hard after the college, recreational pot smokers. . .heard they're worse than the coke runners down in Texas). Just because you live under the same roof doesnt mean you share all possesions under that roof, his room is his stuff, your room is your stuff, period. Tell him to smoke it outside IF it will not bother your neighbors and what not. If he cant do that, then I'd guess he's going to have to find somewhere else to smoke his pot.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: CKent
Ask him not to smoke indoors, it stinks and is against rules you've agreed to. Don't concern yourself with what he does outdoors, as long as he fulfills his obligation to you (pays rent).

That hands off approach will still get you convicted since you have knowledge of his activities.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Haha, wow, I can't believe some of these posts.

Bottom line- if the roommate new smoking was not allowed then the roommate is violating the terms of the rental agreement. It doesn't matter if it's cigarettes or marijuana. No smoking is no smoking.

To the moron who said that the roommate has a right to privacy in his room- BULLSHIT. For one, last I checked, in the United States marijuana is illegal, performing illegal activities in a rental unit almost always violates any rental agreement one may have. Two, as I stated in my first paragraph, if there is to be no smoking then there is to be NO smoking.

I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, but I'm also a believer in rules...

Well, you are correct, assuming that he signed a contract that had clauses directly prohibiting "illegal activities", and "smoking".

I'm guessing that since he is renting a room from a friend's parents, no such contract was signed. (Or if there was a contract, it was simple and only stipulated things like $$/month, etc..)

Illegal activites are illegal activites. A lease does not need to state that illegal activites are prohibited as, by nature of the activity being ILLEGAL, it is already prohibited...

Plus, just in case you're unware, lease terms can be verbal. While written is preferred, if the tenant was informed there was to be no smoking and admits to it, he/she is violating the terms of the lease, written or not.

So you're saying that if he, say, for example, served alcohol to a 20-year-old minor in his room, he could be kicked out for that reason only (because it is illegal, and a misdemeanor)?

What about driving over the speed limit on the road in front of the house?



Illegal activities are prohibited by law, not by the lease agreement.

Unless the lease agreement specifies that misdemeanor illegal activities are prohibited (and therefore sufficient cause to break the lease), a lessee committing a misdemeanor (on or off the property) is not grounds to break a lease.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Amused

Pot is basically harmless.

Thoughts?

There is a significant and growing body of evidence on the relationship between mental illness and cannabis. Strong
associations are consistently found between mental illness and cannabis ? but this is not the same as a causal link.

The article you provided negates itself with this statement.

It never provides an answer to whether increased cannabis use is a cause or a result of mental illness.

It's VERY common for people with certain mental illnesses to self-medicate with legal and illegal substances.

I'm confused as to whether you are agreeing with me or not.

My point is that these people will most likely self medicate even in the absence of cannabis, and often with more dangerous substances.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Seriously, it sounds like you could use a hit or 2 yourself.

QFT.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: CKent
Ask him not to smoke indoors, it stinks and is against rules you've agreed to. Don't concern yourself with what he does outdoors, as long as he fulfills his obligation to you (pays rent).

That hands off approach will still get you convicted since you have knowledge of his activities.

We're talking about a small personal amount of marijuana, not murder.

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
The article you provided negates itself with this statement.

It never provides an answer to whether increased cannabis use is a cause or a result of mental illness.

Yeah... correlation does not imply causation. I'm sure almost everyone here knows that. You also took that quote out of context. You should include the next two sentences.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Ask him to smoke outside ftw?

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: Compton

Originally posted by: MrPickins
The article you provided negates itself with this statement.

It never provides an answer to whether increased cannabis use is a cause or a result of mental illness.

Yeah... correlation does not imply causation. I'm sure almost everyone here knows that. You also took that quote out of context. You should include the next two sentences.

There is a significant and growing body of evidence on the relationship between mental illness and cannabis. Strong associations are consistently found between mental illness and cannabis ? but this is not the same as a causal link.
The evidence increasingly suggests that regular cannabis use, particularly by those who begin using at a young age, increases the risk of mental illness. There is evidence of a genetic vulnerability to psychosis being, in effect, triggered by cannabis use. Nonetheless, the social context in which cannabis use occurs clearly contributes to the strong
association between cannabis use and mental illness.

I read the entire paper. I realize my quote came out of context, but it sums up how I feel about the entire thesis.

They cite various studies showing correlation, and from this deduce causation. I happen to disagree with their findings.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
For me as a landlord........ it's not the pot smoking..... he can smoke outside. But the smokin g inside really would tee me off. It's relly hard if not impossible to get the smoke smell out (funk febreeze ). Just keep that sh!t outside.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Agreed. I can't stand when I buy computer parts, especially with fans on them, that have been in a heavy smoker's household. They wind up stinking up my room for weeks.

I wouldn't want the smoke stink all over everything.
And since smoking was banned since the beginning, well, smoking of anything isn't allowed. Plain and simple. He's in violation of the terms.

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: yllus
As a Canadian I find the American treatment of pot rather bizarre. I rather have a pot smoker live in my place than a drinker or cigarette smoker.

Depends what you think is the negatives of his smoking pot on your property, I suppose? It is your property and so your rules are the ones he should follow, but I think you're really blowing things out of proportion. What's the worst that could happen if he continued?

It's just the unenlightened Americans. That said, I'm not one of them.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: yllus
As a Canadian I find the American treatment of pot rather bizarre. I rather have a pot smoker live in my place than a drinker or cigarette smoker.

Depends what you think is the negatives of his smoking pot on your property, I suppose? It is your property and so your rules are the ones he should follow, but I think you're really blowing things out of proportion. What's the worst that could happen if he continued?

It's just the unenlightened Americans. That said, I'm not one of them.

People are inherently stupid and thus vulnerable to marketing & propaganda. If Canada had a conservative christian past and spent as much money as the US government does trying to make its people believe all drug use is abuse and that it's a sin as bad as murder, the Canadians would feel the same way. Some people are able to think for ourselves, of course... but far too few.

 

[animalia]

where is this? a dormitory? a house? an apt? I need more details. If you are sharing a house or apt with him, don't worry about it. But if it's in a dorm room you will get busted eventually, one of the RAs will smell it in the halls or someone who doesnt like you will rat you out. I've had firsthand experience with this. If you live in a dorm get yourself a new roomate unless you want the cops pressuring you to rat out your friend, which trust me, isn't fun.

EDIT: I see your parents own it. NVM. tell him not to smoke in the house, because you arent going to get blamed for it.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Haha, wow, I can't believe some of these posts.

Bottom line- if the roommate new smoking was not allowed then the roommate is violating the terms of the rental agreement. It doesn't matter if it's cigarettes or marijuana. No smoking is no smoking.

To the moron who said that the roommate has a right to privacy in his room- BULLSHIT. For one, last I checked, in the United States marijuana is illegal, performing illegal activities in a rental unit almost always violates any rental agreement one may have. Two, as I stated in my first paragraph, if there is to be no smoking then there is to be NO smoking.

I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, but I'm also a believer in rules...

Well, you are correct, assuming that he signed a contract that had clauses directly prohibiting "illegal activities", and "smoking".

I'm guessing that since he is renting a room from a friend's parents, no such contract was signed. (Or if there was a contract, it was simple and only stipulated things like $$/month, etc..)

Illegal activites are illegal activites. A lease does not need to state that illegal activites are prohibited as, by nature of the activity being ILLEGAL, it is already prohibited...

Plus, just in case you're unware, lease terms can be verbal. While written is preferred, if the tenant was informed there was to be no smoking and admits to it, he/she is violating the terms of the lease, written or not.

So you're saying that if he, say, for example, served alcohol to a 20-year-old minor in his room, he could be kicked out for that reason only (because it is illegal, and a misdemeanor)?

What about driving over the speed limit on the road in front of the house?



Illegal activities are prohibited by law, not by the lease agreement.

Unless the lease agreement specifies that misdemeanor illegal activities are prohibited (and therefore sufficient cause to break the lease), a lessee committing a misdemeanor (on or off the property) is not grounds to break a lease.

For the first one, quite possibly, I'm no lease expert though. The second one, you're being a retard. If you'd like to have an intelligent conversation then please use intelligent examples and statements.



I do want to say, I <3 POT! I think the OP would be dumb to kick him out for getting caught, but he has a right to say, "I don't want that going on in my house again", and if it does, then kick him out.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Haha, wow, I can't believe some of these posts.

Bottom line- if the roommate new smoking was not allowed then the roommate is violating the terms of the rental agreement. It doesn't matter if it's cigarettes or marijuana. No smoking is no smoking.

To the moron who said that the roommate has a right to privacy in his room- BULLSHIT. For one, last I checked, in the United States marijuana is illegal, performing illegal activities in a rental unit almost always violates any rental agreement one may have. Two, as I stated in my first paragraph, if there is to be no smoking then there is to be NO smoking.

I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, but I'm also a believer in rules...

Well, you are correct, assuming that he signed a contract that had clauses directly prohibiting "illegal activities", and "smoking".

I'm guessing that since he is renting a room from a friend's parents, no such contract was signed. (Or if there was a contract, it was simple and only stipulated things like $$/month, etc..)

Illegal activites are illegal activites. A lease does not need to state that illegal activites are prohibited as, by nature of the activity being ILLEGAL, it is already prohibited...

Plus, just in case you're unware, lease terms can be verbal. While written is preferred, if the tenant was informed there was to be no smoking and admits to it, he/she is violating the terms of the lease, written or not.

So you're saying that if he, say, for example, served alcohol to a 20-year-old minor in his room, he could be kicked out for that reason only (because it is illegal, and a misdemeanor)?

What about driving over the speed limit on the road in front of the house?



Illegal activities are prohibited by law, not by the lease agreement.

Unless the lease agreement specifies that misdemeanor illegal activities are prohibited (and therefore sufficient cause to break the lease), a lessee committing a misdemeanor (on or off the property) is not grounds to break a lease.

For the first one, quite possibly, I'm no lease expert though. The second one, you're being a retard. If you'd like to have an intelligent conversation then please use intelligent examples and statements.



I do want to say, I <3 POT! I think the OP would be dumb to kick him out for getting caught, but he has a right to say, "I don't want that going on in my house again", and if it does, then kick him out.

OP - Did this tenant sign a lease? Do you have a copy of the lease he signed? If so, post it please..

 

[SilverTrine]

I personally wouldnt want pot or someone who smoked pot at my residence. He'll more likely hang around with people who could potentially steal your stuff. Also despite whoevers opinion it is illegal so you could feasibily have cops busting down your door at any moment.
Also from first hand experience pot can become a problem in your life fast. Maybe if you do it once a month on your 'relax' day but too often it becomes the center of peoples lives and leads them the wrong direction.

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: Amused
Just make sure he is not dealing or having dealers at the house. Your parents could lose their property if it is suspected that trafficking is going on in the house.

Silly, I know, but that's the war on drugs for you.

Pot is basically harmless. However, you want to be sure he's not mixed up in any other drugs. As long as he's honest and gainfully employed, pot is just not a big deal.

Finally, make sure he opens a window and keeps his bong clean. A lot of pot smoking can make a room smell funky and bong water is just nasty.

BTW, you'll be annoyed with just about any roommate. You just pick the ones that annoy you least.

:thumbsup:

 

[Clockwerk]

Tell roomate to get a vaporizer, stop being a dick.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Clockwerk
Tell roomate to get a vaporizer, stop being a dick.

Va-poo-rizer [jack black] :Q

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[akshatp]

Originally posted by: SilverTrine
I personally wouldnt want pot or someone who smoked pot at my residence. He'll more likely hang around with people who could potentially steal your stuff. Also despite whoevers opinion it is illegal so you could feasibily have cops busting down your door at any moment.
Also from first hand experience pot can become a problem in your life fast. Maybe if you do it once a month on your 'relax' day but too often it becomes the center of peoples lives and leads them the wrong direction.

WTF? I am very curious to know how old you are.

Umm sicne when did pot smokers get lumped in with common thieves???

You do know that pot is the "green" stuff that you smoke right??? I think you may have it confused with some other drug like Cocaine or H.

I used to smoke pot when I was in college. I didnt hang around with theives. I know and hang out with LOTS of people that smoke pot today. I dont steal.

 

[potato28]

Just tell him to smoke outside...

 

[MetalMat]

Can I join him?