Cat survives 2 euthanasia attempts at Utah shelter

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maziwanka

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man. they gas animals? i thought they get injections.

i can't believe she went through what was essential torture
 

Miramonti

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Aug 26, 2000
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Gassing the animals can often be excruciating for them because of their abilities to survive it, which happens. It's definitely torture for these ones.
 

Howard

Lifer
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What happened to decapitation? That has never failed to work (except for that one chicken).
 

Perknose

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man. they gas animals? i thought they get injections.

i can't believe she went through what was essential torture

They use gas and decompression chambers (equally gruesome) because of the trauma for the workers involved. Injections are up close and personal.

Think about it. You took this job at a shelter because you love animals. Now you're given the job of executing them, one by one by one by one by one. Few can stand doing this, and at least these other methods, even more awful for the animals involved, put some physical remove between the person doing the killing and their victims.

Not a good solution, I know.
Anyone have a better one that's also affordable? The shelters would be all ears, I'm sure.
 

natto fire

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They use gas and decompression chambers (equally gruesome) because of the trauma for the workers involved. Injections are up close and personal.

Think about it. You took this job at a shelter because you love animals. Now you're given the job of executing them, one by one by one by one by one. Few can stand doing this, and at least these other methods, even more awful for the animals involved, put some physical remove between the person doing the killing and their victims.

Not a good solution, I know.
Anyone have a better one that's also affordable? The shelters would be all ears, I'm sure.

Considering how polarized people get on the whole dog/cat thing and that many openly talk of wanting to kill the rival gang's mascot animal, could they not find people to use the pneumatic bolt device they use on cows? I believe that is the most affordable way to kill animals quickly/humanely. Then again if someone is enough of a prick to enjoy killing animals they are probably too selfish to volunteer at a shelter.
 

Analog

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Jan 7, 2002
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Maybe it was a quantum cat:

"WANTED - Schroedinger's cat. Dead and alive." D:D::D
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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piss poor sacing technique by the shelter. Are they not required to perform a secondary procedure--like cervical dislocation or exsanquination?

pathetic. No animal should have to wake up in a plastic bag in a cooler covered in their own vomit. In fact, gassing is probably the worst way to euthanize any animal. horrible.
 

zinfamous

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lol. Gas doesn't necessarily mean Zyklon B.

It's drowning. I don't imagine they use CO2 for animals the size of cats--maybe they do, it works for rats--but a "simple gas" is quite horrible.

Imagine drowning, without being in water. You're trapped in a box, can't go anywhere, airway is unobstructed, yet you can't breath.

It's like smoke inhalation within a burning house.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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They use gas and decompression chambers (equally gruesome) because of the trauma for the workers involved. Injections are up close and personal.

Think about it. You took this job at a shelter because you love animals. Now you're given the job of executing them, one by one by one by one by one. Few can stand doing this, and at least these other methods, even more awful for the animals involved, put some physical remove between the person doing the killing and their victims.

Not a good solution, I know.
Anyone have a better one that's also affordable? The shelters would be all ears, I'm sure.

Well, that's always the problem. They find the solution that is best for the people involved, and is of no concern for the animal being euthanized.

You want the absolute best, most humane to euthanize an animal?

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heh, Fisher--or maybe VWR or similar--actually used to make these devices for mice and rats.

For shelters, I can't imagine how injection is worse for not only the workers but also the animals. When you take your own pet in to be put down, you use an injection. It is considered humane and gentle, and certainly much easier for the owner, being able to be there. I don't think injections for the workers would make any difference. Why is it considered too icky for the workers who don't know these animals, but appropriate and precious for lifelong owners?
 

Hugo Drax

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They use gas because its cheaper and faster, they do batches of 100-150 cats at once in the chamber.

the system is simple they do not feed/provide water to the cats for 24 hours, then put one can of catfood so they can easily lead them to go into the chamber and it minimizes the amount of vomit and urine/fecal matter that needs to be cleaned up.

They use CO2 as the asphyxiant since it is cheap and does not create any toxic pollution.
 

HumblePie

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Oct 30, 2000
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They use gas and decompression chambers (equally gruesome) because of the trauma for the workers involved. Injections are up close and personal.

Think about it. You took this job at a shelter because you love animals. Now you're given the job of executing them, one by one by one by one by one. Few can stand doing this, and at least these other methods, even more awful for the animals involved, put some physical remove between the person doing the killing and their victims.

Not a good solution, I know.
Anyone have a better one that's also affordable? The shelters would be all ears, I'm sure.

Sell them back to China? At least we would have a steady valued export by that country.
 

ElFenix

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You want the absolute best, most humane to euthanize an animal?

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i have to wonder... your brain doesn't immediately cease working just because your heart stops. it may go into some sort of overwhelming panic mode that overrides all conscious thought... :hmm:
 

Evadman

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Came to make a 9 lives comment. Already made.
Decided to make a Schr&#246;dinger comment. Already made.
Only thing left was a RvB comment. That too?

Cat is awesome. /Thread
 

natto fire

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It's drowning. I don't imagine they use CO2 for animals the size of cats--maybe they do, it works for rats--but a "simple gas" is quite horrible.

Imagine drowning, without being in water. You're trapped in a box, can't go anywhere, airway is unobstructed, yet you can't breath.

It's like smoke inhalation within a burning house.

But we can't, it is pretty much impossible to force someone who is accustomed to equating extreme stress to something as trivial as UPS is running a day late, or McDonalds was out of McRibs, or whatever the latest distraction is.

Not saying that I have lived a rough life, but I have told some stories about my travels in the past couple years that always land me on the hot seat about how or why I lived in such a way, when modern living was so close. I have a hard time thinking this way, because I see so many modern conveniences being an Achilles heel to how we should really see the world. My mentality might skew this. I hate to be snob, but if you have not scaled a 14'er, get the fuck out of mountaineering journalism. Way too much misinformation about a sport that can be just as fatal as any extreme sport if you do it wrong.

Granted, it is not a huge loss, I think that any human who challenges a mountain and dies should stay where they die, if nothing else, to remind you that you can be an arrogant prick without any repercussions.

Via law. I prefer to avoid the dark edges of computing. i have a pretty good feeling that if I took a poll right now, only a small few would realize it doesn't matter.