Cat survives 2 euthanasia attempts at Utah shelter

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sportage

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All cats are retarded and it probably was too dumb to know how to die.
(Don't hurt me... Just kidding :D )
 

SlitheryDee

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That's incredibly biased. Think about it, would they quit trying to kill a person if they survived two attempts?

"Oh well this dude just really wants to live, let's let him go".
 

Pia

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Think about it. You took this job at a shelter because you love animals. Now you're given the job of executing them, one by one by one by one by one. Few can stand doing this, and at least these other methods, even more awful for the animals involved, put some physical remove between the person doing the killing and their victims.
My first thought is, couldn't they find a less squeamish volunteer specifically for that task so the job gets done right? I'd volunteer for that, I don't like the idea of animals suffering needlessly.

If the first occurrence of damage to the animal is a trauma to the brain that makes the animal unconscious, and the animal dies before regaining consciousness (whether due to the first trauma, or additional trauma after the animal is unconscious) the killing is as humane as it can be. Then there's just the engineering/logistics question of how to accomplish that with minimum fuss.

A captive bolt cattle gun is a pretty obvious "high-end" solution. Where the environment allows, a normal .22LR pistol would work great, the running cost for one animal should be about $0.1 (two bullets). Zero-budget but still pretty solid would be a suitable type of hammer. If the animal is large enough that a reasonable amount of hammer blows to the skull might fail to kill it, exsanguinate after the stunning blow.
 

alkemyst

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Well, that's always the problem. They find the solution that is best for the people involved, and is of no concern for the animal being euthanized.

You want the absolute best, most humane to euthanize an animal?

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heh, Fisher--or maybe VWR or similar--actually used to make these devices for mice and rats.

For shelters, I can't imagine how injection is worse for not only the workers but also the animals. When you take your own pet in to be put down, you use an injection. It is considered humane and gentle, and certainly much easier for the owner, being able to be there. I don't think injections for the workers would make any difference. Why is it considered too icky for the workers who don't know these animals, but appropriate and precious for lifelong owners?

pinning a cat or dog into that will be just as traumatic.

Lethal injection is the most humane, but labor expensive and mentally exhausting for most.
 

umbrella39

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I hope the new owner is prepared to watch the cat shiver and puke on the carpet every time she farts around it...
 

zinfamous

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They use gas because its cheaper and faster, they do batches of 100-150 cats at once in the chamber.

the system is simple they do not feed/provide water to the cats for 24 hours, then put one can of catfood so they can easily lead them to go into the chamber and it minimizes the amount of vomit and urine/fecal matter that needs to be cleaned up.

They use CO2 as the asphyxiant since it is cheap and does not create any toxic pollution.

Ah,

CO2 the absolute worst way to kill an animal. figures. I'm sure the chambers are sealed from view, too, so the techs don't have to watch them tear each other apart. pathetic.
 

zinfamous

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pinning a cat or dog into that will be just as traumatic.

Lethal injection is the most humane, but labor expensive and mentally exhausting for most.

well, it's a demonstration. I know that guillotining dogs and cats is a preposterous proposition--simply that beheading or cervical dislocation is the most humane method.

I personally can't imagine doing that to a dog or cat, however. After having sent scores upon scores of mice to mousy heaven, there is no way anyone is going to convince me (or anyone else who has worked with purpose-bread research animals), that gas, and especially CO2, is a good idea.

Hell, most of us tend to ignore the IAKUC bullshit and just do the CD--we have to do that after the gas, anyway. It's about 3 seconds of stress for the animal and the procedure to sac 20 live mice using CD is nearly half the time to watch them claw at each other in the CO2 chamber.

Oh, and you can't leave the room while they are in the chamber. It's better for you, and the animal, or so they tell you--but you are forced to watch it, anyway, because I think they want you to know the idiocy behind these policies.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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dont see anyone make a fuss when they gas or poison mouse and rats or use them as test subjects. Do it with a cat and it inhumane WTF?