Casualties of the NFL

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CVSiN

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do you bother reading articles?



I'd love to know how much non-superstars get paid in this sport.

I read the article.. and just don't fucking care..
the world doesn't need Pro Athletes..

they are overpaid for playing a game.. period..

get a real job that benefits mankind.
They do NOT deserve charity and they do not deserve to whine and cry about how life delt them a cruel blow..

they knew what they were getting into.. a contact sport where injuries happen looking for FAST money and an easy lifestyle.

no sympathy AT ALL.
 

Ns1

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I read the article.. and just don't fucking care..
the world doesn't need Pro Athletes..

they are overpaid for playing a game.. period..

get a real job that benefits mankind.
They do NOT deserve charity and they do not deserve to whine and cry about how life delt them a cruel blow..

they knew what they were getting into.. a contact sport where injuries happen looking for FAST money and an easy lifestyle.

no sympathy AT ALL.

hey man, they do have a real job and it's entertaining millions of people across the globe (which in turn creates thousands more jobs....)

i really don't care to argue this point any further.
 

KMFJD

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I read the article.. and just don't fucking care..
the world doesn't need Pro Athletes..

they are overpaid for playing a game.. period..

get a real job that benefits mankind.
They do NOT deserve charity and they do not deserve to whine and cry about how life delt them a cruel blow..

they knew what they were getting into.. a contact sport where injuries happen looking for FAST money and an easy lifestyle.

no sympathy AT ALL.

fuck the worker every chance you get cause they choose their career path....break your leg while roofing? fuck you , you could have choosen a safer job etc etc etc
 

alkemyst

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It's not like the players not know what they are getting into. It's one of the few ways that a guy with nothing but a shirt on his back can become a millionaire today.

It's a big payout and a big risk...most will never see a professional start and be hurt prior.
 

erikistired

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fuck the worker every chance you get cause they choose their career path....break your leg while roofing? fuck you , you could have choosen a safer job etc etc etc

a roofer is a legit job that contributes to society. no one goes into roofing to avoid real work.
 

Scarpozzi

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Many professional athletes have nothing else. The opportunity to play in college, make it to the NFL draft and go through all those hoops, they aren't naive. Before they made it to the NFL, they knew how punishing the game could be...

It's heartbreaking to see a man, given the opportunity to play in the pros, lose his ability to play. It's even worse to see him sacrifice his own health and safety and ultimately lose his ability to support himself or even live a normal post-NFL life...but that's the nature of the game. What's worse is, the linemen are the ones really losing out. They typically are paid less than backs and don't have the same branding opportunities as offensive players, so post-NFL licensing is nonexistant....and they suffer hard hits every play of the game...but luckily, not usually at full running speed.
 

lyssword

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That's why baseball is better, sure they tear their muscles sometimes, but getting hit in the head is pretty rare (but it does happen sometimes). I've read somewhere that football is worse for the brain than boxing.
 
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I read the article.. and just don't fucking care..
the world doesn't need Pro Athletes..

they are overpaid for playing a game.. period..

get a real job that benefits mankind.
They do NOT deserve charity and they do not deserve to whine and cry about how life delt them a cruel blow..

they knew what they were getting into.. a contact sport where injuries happen looking for FAST money and an easy lifestyle.

no sympathy AT ALL.

you are a tool.
 

Barfo

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Well that's pretty fucked up. I sort of knew many of them had a lot of medical issues but I didn't know their own union and the league were screwing them like this.
 

erikistired

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Why is entertainment not a "contributing job" to society?

it's a throw away job. life would be more boring sure, but we could live without professional sports. meanwhile we have teachers barely making ends meet. but hey, keep arguing for the athletes, i'm sure they need it.
 

lyssword

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it's a throw away job. life would be more boring sure, but we could live without professional sports. meanwhile we have teachers barely making ends meet. but hey, keep arguing for the athletes, i'm sure they need it.

I think teachers do need public support for getting govment to pay them decently, but sports are like art, they enrich/inspire people's lifes. There are definitely lots of undervalued/overvalued professions, it's human nature, and it will take time for it to get more fair.
 

oddyager

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I think teachers do need public support for getting govment to pay them decently, but sports are like art, they enrich/inspire people's lifes. There are definitely lots of undervalued/overvalued professions, it's human nature, and it will take time for it to get more fair.

I doubt it will ever become fair. Athletes/actors etc work in multi billion dollar industries. Teachers, most public services, do not.
 

boomhower

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Just so you know, there are over 1900 players in the league per season. Only the top 100 or so pull down multi-million dollar salaries. The typical NFL player leaves having grossed maybe $1M. Definitely not too shabby if you don't suffer any lingering ill effects from the game, but that's no rich class type of money where you'll be set for life.

It's when you're legally classified as handicapped where the problems come in. Especially when the union that's supposed to represent you doesn't do that at all.

This. Most football players have short careers and don't make a ton. Sure, it's more than the average American by far. I am curious what kind of insurance they get after they leave. Say they play five years and grossed a million. Take out taxes, agent fees, union dues, etc. Now lets say they have 500,000 left net. Lingering life long injuries, what kind of insurance do they have? How much of that that's left will they spend on medical care? Again, I'm not taking up for them. They made the choice to take a big paycheck for the possibility of severe injury. But I do think their medical bills should be taken care of by the union.
 

Zargon

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fuck those guys, lets make it an 18 game schedule! FUCK YEAH!

LOL seriously

Goodell is a moron. Championing 'Player Safety' but trying to add the schedule at the same time.

THey need to go do something like a 14 game 16 week season.

lets get the super bowl back in sunday while we are at it too.

before long it'll be on friggin valentines day weekend and the NFL will officially piss off most women in america and annoy alot of men
 

rasczak

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I think the situation has changed now with the salaries of players getting extremely high. The reality is that today's players make enough money that they should be able to set aside a lot of money to use later in life. Players from years ago didn't make nearly that kind of money. The physical punishment they take can leave them unable to hold jobs and provide for themselves, and they simply didn't make enough when they were playing to save for the future.

It's shameful that the players union treats former players the way it does.

One big thing that could be done to help deal with the way the medical staff handles players is for the league to mandate that independent medical firms / professionals be used instead of team doctors beholden to the coach and team management. Perhaps the NFL should just contract with a firm that would be set up to be the "medical provider" for the league -- independent of the team or league owners.

$510,000 for is the average minimum for an NFL player. Average nfl player's career 3.3 years. Take into account buying a home, all other expenses and taxes, then you're looking at $250,000 a year? x 3.3 years = $825,000. That's today's salaries as of 2010. Will $825,000 cover a lifetime of medical expenses with an NFL players average life expectancy being 52 -55 years? No. You're still looking at 26 - 28 years for those who are unable to support themselves due to injuries suffered. The players' salaries most people see are the stars of the game. Not the average player.
 

purbeast0

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it's a throw away job. life would be more boring sure, but we could live without professional sports. meanwhile we have teachers barely making ends meet. but hey, keep arguing for the athletes, i'm sure they need it.

who generates more money, a teacher or professional athlete?
 

rasczak

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who generates more money, a teacher or professional athlete?

You know, that's an interesting question. Given, that a teacher has 20 - 30 students a year, each with the potential to make $30,000 - $50,000/year. Multiply that by the average teacher's career (20 years?) That's a lot of money. At least $12,000,000. The high range $30,000,000. Somehow though, my figures seemed flawed. Anyone care to take it up and see where i may have gone wrong?
 

purbeast0

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You know, that's an interesting question. Given, that a teacher has 20 - 30 students a year, each with the potential to make $30,000 - $50,000/year. Multiply that by the average teacher's career (20 years?) That's a lot of money. At least $12,000,000. The high range $30,000,000. Somehow though, my figures seemed flawed. Anyone care to take it up and see where i may have gone wrong?

well just because potential students may make that much money does NOT mean they will generate even close to that much money.

if you are talking about actual jobs ... then you have to also look into A LOT more things on the sports side - cable providers make more money, sports apparel, the people who work at the stadium, etc.
 

CVSiN

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it's a throw away job. life would be more boring sure, but we could live without professional sports. meanwhile we have teachers barely making ends meet. but hey, keep arguing for the athletes, i'm sure they need it.

THIS..
 

CVSiN

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who generates more money, a teacher or professional athlete?

who the fuck cares about money generation?
especially when the money they generate just go right back into those incredible salaries or the owners pocket..

a fucking trashman is more credible more needed job than entertainers/athletes.

Now dont get me wrong I'm all for entertainment..
what I'm not all for the the way out of wack compensation that athletes and actors etc make..