Originally posted by: Jhhnn
How absolutely stupid are you? The jews fight to survive on there tiny slip of land, and you continue to point fingers at them as if they are the perpetrators? How about the 2000billion Muslims surrounding them who are blowing up themselves, their mothers, and their children to get back at the jews. Yep after all its the jews committing mass murder not the arabs!
You should pat yourself on the back for falling to the giant Muslim propaganda machine which tries to blame Israel for all its faults. Even before Israel existed in the 20th century the Arabs were finding reasons to kill jews, because its in the Koran.
Amazing. I point out that name-calling, denial, and willful ignorance comprise many of the statements in this thread, and you simply respond with more of the same...
Israelis aren't "the jews"- until just recently, there were more jews in the US than in Israel, and they're clearly in no danger of persecution here... And your understanding of history is woefully lacking. Jews and Christians are "People of the Book", enjoying a protected status in Koranic theology-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Book
And thrived in Islamic countries until recent times. They helped to defend Jerusalem from the Crusaders in 1096, and 1/5 of modern jews, the Sephardim, are descendants of those expelled to islamic countries by the Spanish in 1492...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_the_Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain
From the Wiki article about Spanish Jews-
Those who were fortunate enough to reach Ottoman Empire had a better fate, the Sultan Bayezid II was known to sarcastically send his gratitude to Ferdinand for sending him some of his best subjects, thus "impoverising his own lands while enriching his (Bayezid's)". Jews arriving in Ottoman Empire were mostly resettled in and around Selanik (Thessaloniki in Greek) and to some extent in Istanbul and Izmir.
It was only the rise of Zionism and British rule that turned muslims against their Jewish neighbors. Standard British technique was to rule colonial populations by pitting different segments against each other, and Palestine was no different. Muslims saw the Jewish settlers as allies of the occupation, and implementation of the Balfour declaration encouraged that view. Finally, when the Israelis expelled the pals in 1948, refusing to allow them to return at the end of hostilities, muslim sentiment basically forced their governments to do the same- which was precisely what Zionist Israel wanted. It's called population migration, or population transfer, something the founders of Israel believed in very deeply.
Not that you'll actually read or understand much of it, Vich, but it's not all about you, anyway...
Returning to Barak's alleged offer of 2000- If that were what the Israelis were willing to settle for, they had and have the power to implement it unilaterally, pulling out of many palestinian areas. But they haven't, of course, because that's not what they want, at all. They still covet and intend to take much of what little pals have left- trying to look good doing it, but doing it nonetheless...
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