Carly Fiorina Gives Us Good Reason To Boycott HP - Compaq Products.

[Harvey]

As I was making dinner, last night, I had Lou Dobbs show on CNN in the background. I about dropped my whole dinner when I heard the following, including the quote from Carly Fiorina, CEO of HP - Compaq:

In a report released just today, chief executives from some of this country's leading technology company defended their exporting of American jobs to cheap overseas labor markets. The CEO's are members of the something called the Computer System Policy Project. It's an advocacy organization for the technology industry. It's made up of CEOs of such companies as Dell Computer, Hewlett Packard, IBM, Intel, and Motorola.

Carly Fiorina the CEO of HP and a member of the group says, ... "There is no job that is America's god given right anymore."

AFIC, Ms. Fiorina's attitude is ample reason for all Americans to boycott all HP and Compaq products. I won't miss their lame computers, but I'm sorry to say I'm off all HP printers, scanners, and other technology products where they have been leaders.

I find it disgusting that the CEO of a major American company has such little regard for her fellow citizens in the country that has given her the opportunity to rise to the heights of corporate leadership and incidentally made her disgustingly rich. This is not a rant; it's just my statement of what I intend to do about it. I invite all of my fellow AnandTech members who agree to join me in not buying anymore of her company's products.

I also think the positions of other companies in this group, Dell, IBM, Intel, and Motorola, should be similarly evaluated. If they have no respect for American workers, there is no reason any of us who are still employed should waste our money buying their products and supporting their foreign misadventures.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Given her correct usage of "rights," I might just buy an HP printer now...I love educated women.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Harvey
As I was making dinner, last night, I had Lou Dobbs show on CNN in the background. I about dropped my whole dinner when I heard the following, including the quote from Carly Fiorina, CEO of HP - Compaq:

In a report released just today, chief executives from some of this country's leading technology company defended their exporting of American jobs to cheap overseas labor markets. The CEO's are members of the something called the Computer System Policy Project. It's an advocacy organization for the technology industry. It's made up of CEOs of such companies as Dell Computer, Hewlett Packard, IBM, Intel, and Motorola.

Carly Fiorina the CEO of HP and a member of the group says, ... "There is no job that is America's god given right anymore."

AFIC, Ms. Fiorina's attitude is ample reason for all Americans to boycott all HP and Compaq products. I won't miss their lame computers, but I'm sorry to say I'm off all HP printers, scanners, and other technology products where they have been leaders.

I find it disgusting that the CEO of a major American company has such little regard for her fellow citizens in the country that has given her the opportunity to rise to the heights of corporate leadership and incidentally made her disgustingly rich. This is not a rant; it's just my statement of what I intend to do about it. I invite all of my fellow AnandTech members who agree to join me in not buying anymore of her company's products.

I also think the positions of other companies in this group, Dell, IBM, Intel, and Motorola, should be similarly evaluated. If they have no respect for American workers, there is no reason any of us who are still employed should waste our money buying their products and supporting their foreign misadventures.

Welcome to P&N Harvey. Sorry about your dinner. When this came up in a different thread yesterday don't forget your fellow AT Economy experts in here are against you. They want all jobs to be sent overseas this way there would be more service jobs here instead of Manufacturing and they are the highest paid jobs ever in this best Economy the U.S. has ever seen too. HP, Dell and the rest are an American Company on paper only but that's OK, make sure you go out and buy their products and support this booming and soaring Economy.

 

[smashp]

dont Worry.


HP is going down the Crapper.

Soon that Feminist B!tch will be Promoted to Customer.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Given her correct usage of "rights," I might just buy an HP printer now...I love educated women.

How about her correct usage of WRONGS? :disgust:

smashp -- I have nothing against "feminists," in the sense of females asserting their rights and realizing the most from their potential. I have four very bright, overachieving sisters, any of whom can hold their own in a conversation among the highest levels in their respective fields. This isn't about feminism; it's about selling out American citizens for the sake of personal and corporate greed.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: smashp
dont Worry.


HP is going down the Crapper.

Soon that Feminist B!tch will be Promoted to Customer.

Them jumping on board with Intel developing the Itanium and their buyout of Compaq will end up biting her in the ass!

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: smashp
dont Worry.


HP is going down the Crapper.

Soon that Feminist B!tch will be Promoted to Customer.

Them jumping on board with Intel developing the Itanium and their buyout of Compaq will end up biting her in the ass!

How is this Possible.


HP made Compaq WORSE

 

[Fatdog]

Trust me, Compaq was worse before HP came along.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fatdog
Trust me, Compaq was worse before HP came along.

Hardly! A friend called me to ask for help with her two year old Compaq POS. I asked her for the exact model number and configuration of her machine and headed the Compaq website. Of course, that forwarded to hp.com, and I started searching for info.

Many of the links were broken, and many more had no useful info so I picked up the phone and called their toll free support number. After working my way through a miserable decision tree, I finally reached a live person... in India. I told him I knew the machine was out of warranty, but I needed help because the Compaq/HP site was broken.

This moron had lots of well worded phrases in his script sheet, but he didn't understand half of the words he was saying. :disgust:

I tried five more times with the same results before I got a U.S. based American who not only understood the words I was speaking, but helped me find the info I needed. He also apologized for both the site and the crappy state of their customer service. :|

I promised I would not reveal his name.

 

[0roo0roo]

i agree with her. there are other reasons to dislike her, but i don'tthink thats one.

 

[Red Dawn]

N/M, too lazy to search for a link to back my statement

 

[Fatdog]

I wasn't refering to the current state of Personal PC "support" at HP, which we all know blows goats.

 

[chess9]

Nice post, Harvey, and I agree with you. These people are certainly NOT thinking straight. I can understand-barely-giving menial jobs to illegal aliens, er, undocumented workers, but these high tech jobs need to stay here if she expects Americans to be able to afford to purchase her products.

-Robert

 

[dmcowen674]

Carly and the rest are still at it. Now these very same individuals that have shipped the High Tech jobs overseas to India are warning that the U.S. is rapidly becoming a third world Country while India is becoming a Technology Leader.

1-8-2004 U.S. Could Lose Technology Dominance, Executives Say

Our competitiveness as a nation is not inevitable," said Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carleton S. "Carly" Fiorina. At a press briefing alongside Intel Corp. chief executive Craig R. Barrett, Fiorina cited declining federal government spending on research and development compared with other countries

With India, China, Russia and other countries rapidly becoming technology centers, the executives warned that without such measures the United States could lose its dominance in the knowledge economy.

By some estimates by financial consulting firms, 10 percent of jobs at U.S. information technology vendors will move offshore by the end of this year. Throughout all U.S. companies, Forrester Research predicts the loss of about 3.3 million jobs by 2015.

Already, some Democratic presidential candidates have criticized the practice. Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) has introduced legislation that would require employees of call centers to identify their location.

Organizations of technology employees, many of whom remain out of work after the post-tech-bubble downturn, argue that companies are simply reaping greater profits at the expense of U.S. workers. In November, Indiana Gov. Joseph E. Kernan (D) canceled a $15 million contract with an outsourcing firm that would have had engineers in India upgrading state computers, even though a domestic contractor cost more.

 

[Witling]

As a flaming liberal (no pun intended), I found the following quote interesting.

"By some estimates by financial consulting firms, 10 percent of jobs at U.S. information technology vendors will move offshore by the end of this year. Throughout all U.S. companies, Forrester Research predicts the loss of about 3.3 million jobs by 2015.

Already, some Democratic presidential candidates have criticized the practice. Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) has introduced legislation that would require employees of call centers to identify their location."

Sen. Kerry's effort is misplaced. It's like having a huge cistern full of water on the roof. The cistern is starting to develop leaks. Kerry's (and similar) solutions are, "Let's patch the cistern." The integration of the world economy has unleashed forces that are too powerful for "patches." Look for a moment at the immigration picture. It is what it is, and despite fierce laws, illegal immigration continues (gravity never rests). I won't even get into Bush's lates pronouncement on immigration. The fact is, fierce and powerful economic forces are pushing these changes. I am not against resisting that tide. But, the politicians have put a gloss on all of this to get what they want.

Yo! DieHard Conservatives. How did you like the latest Bush speech on immigration?

 

[rahvin]

Fiorina gave me reasons to boycott HP when she destroyed HP's calculator division. No real need to boycott, she's been in progress on destroying the long term value of HP for years now. When she leaves the damage she has done to the corporation will be finally seen. There is a reason the Packard and Hewlett families resigned from the board in protest. I give them about another 4 years before Dell and competitors eat the rest of the business divisions alive that are still profitable.

 

[Passions]

Hewlett Packard = Brand of American engineering and brillance.
HP = Brand of oversees sweatshop labor.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Given her correct usage of "rights," I might just buy an HP printer now...I love educated women.

Yeah, it's only funny until your job is outsourced. I'm sure your handlers could get some poor drifter off the streets of Bangalore to crunch numbers instead of you for a mere fraction of your salary.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

No one said it was funny, just that she used RIGHTS correctly, which she did. You do NOT have a RIGHT to have a job with any particular employer. You have a RIGHT to earn a living under the Common Law, but that's not the same thing. Companies have to do what is best for the survival of the company, just like you and I have to do what is best for our own survival. What's best in the case of engineering type jobs is to keep yourself educated and up to date so that the foreign guy who wants your job isn't qualified enough to take it from you.

I swear, the mentality of people who just want life to be predictable, safe and easy is absolutely disturbing. You should pay a little more attention to Nature, which is *anything* but predictable or safe, to say nothing of easy.

Jason

 

[Fatdog]

It's not going to matter if he's qualified or not, he's going to get it anyways. Why pay a qualified engineer $80k here, when they can pay him $30k for the same work?

Even if he's not as quallified, it still cheaper to fix his mistakes over there than having it done right here the first time.

 

[jpeyton]

Guess what? American's today do not feel compelled to pay more for a "Made In America" badge on their consumer goods. Blame them, not the companies who are simply supplying to fill that demand.

 

[sandorski]

Lou was in a bad mood last night. He started tearin into a couple guests over the Immigation issue so hard I was taken aback.

I don't understand some people though. Many complain about "Illegals" stealing their jobs(one's they wouldn't want to boot) and what not, but seem to have no problem with Corps simply removing the Jobs they actually might be willing to do. Criticize Bush and you are "Unamerican", show no duty to the US worker and you are "American". There's something seriously wrong with that thinking.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
No one said it was funny, just that she used RIGHTS correctly, which she did. You do NOT have a RIGHT to have a job with any particular employer. You have a RIGHT to earn a living under the Common Law, but that's not the same thing. Companies have to do what is best for the survival of the company, just like you and I have to do what is best for our own survival. What's best in the case of engineering type jobs is to keep yourself educated and up to date so that the foreign guy who wants your job isn't qualified enough to take it from you.

I swear, the mentality of people who just want life to be predictable, safe and easy is absolutely disturbing. You should pay a little more attention to Nature, which is *anything* but predictable or safe, to say nothing of easy.

Jason

Any reason why she added the word 'anymore' to the end of her statement? I wonder if she thinks there used to be jobs that were America's God given right.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: smashp
dont Worry.


HP is going down the Crapper.

Soon that Feminist B!tch will be Promoted to Customer.

Them jumping on board with Intel developing the Itanium and their buyout of Compaq will end up biting her in the ass!

HP helped Intel devolp the Itanium....I must have missed that somewhere.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Genesys
HP helped Intel devolp the Itanium....I must have missed that somewhere.

Isn't that something special?

Intel's another company that is exporting many of it's jobs to Indian telephone banks. :disgust: