Car washing tips from me the detail guy

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Descartes

Lifer
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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: Krassus
Several questions:

1. What kind of soap do you use?
2. How do you soap the car up? (one of those hose attachments?)
3. What do you use to clean it? (i tried a special brush from home depot and it sucked)

I use Pollys for my business just dont use dishwasher soap get soap for specifically washing cars, they all work the same some just break wax down faster.

I apply soap to my wash mit then spray the mit soap and wash the car, I dont use a bucket at all.

I use a wash no brushes for paint.

I hope you rinse the mit as well?
 

Shockwave

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I do my work over about once every 3 months. In between is a quick hose-towel rinse. I use Zaino wax, shyte is amazing. Those who use know.
For soap, I use Dawn dishsoap. Cuts grease and grime with ease. Zaino however is not removed with Dawn, so my previous wax job isnt sent back to ground zero by using it.
To soap up the car I just fill a bucket about half full of hot water and add the soap. It lasts to the end because the cold rinse gets rid of most of the dirt, the hot soapy is just for road grease and bugs mainly. I just use a towel and lots of arm work, no brushes or anything.
As for any type of blower... NO! Havent heard any stories yet, but imagine if some sand got sucked up from a gust of wind or something. Suddenly your blower becomes a sand blaster. And some blowers I've heard vent exhaust gases out the opening as well (Like leaf blowers) and I shudder to think of small particles being blown out onto my car.
I use towels and shamies and lots of patience to dry it.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: Krassus
Several questions:

1. What kind of soap do you use?
2. How do you soap the car up? (one of those hose attachments?)
3. What do you use to clean it? (i tried a special brush from home depot and it sucked)

I use Pollys for my business just dont use dishwasher soap get soap for specifically washing cars, they all work the same some just break wax down faster.

I apply soap to my wash mit then spray the mit soap and wash the car, I dont use a bucket at all.

I use a wash no brushes for paint.

I hope you rinse the mit as well?

The mit doesnt get very dirty cleaning the paint. I use acid on wheels when they need it, so the mit stays pretty clean. I also have a spare mit with me at all times just in case one gets clogged with something that might screw the paint up.
 

rahvin

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Armor all is water based and will cause cracking and premature aging of both tires and interior plastics. Use an oil based product like clear guard.

BTW all you car washing fanatics are either young with lots of free time or insane. I was young once and washed my car once a week, I think I've washed my car once in 3 years by hand.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Armor all is water based and will cause cracking and premature aging of both tires and interior plastics. Use an oil based product like clear guard.

BTW all you car washing fanatics are either young with lots of free time or insane. I was young once and washed my car once a week, I think I've washed my car once in 3 years by hand.

Where can I get this Clear Gaurd?

 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Shockwave
1) Cold wash car. Essentially a towel and hose
2) Hot wash car. Hot soapy water + another towel
3) Apply pre wax
4) Apply wax
5) Buff
6) Repeat 4 and 5
7) Vaccum
8) Armor All all interior panels
9) Q-Tip all seams and vents
10) Armor All Window Cleaner all windows, inside and out
11) Warm clean water to damp cloth, clean leather seats
12) Apply Leather Conditioner to leather

Thats my average guide to cleaning my car. Takes around 5 to 6 hours start to finish, little longer if wax doesnt set up and dry fast.
Keep in mind, thats my average. The Delux involves Clay bar, rim cleaner, RainX and a few other goodies.
I think you're clinically insane.
i concur.

how often do you do this "average" treatment?
I do more or less the same thing (my procedure is similar but a little different) to my cars at least once a month during warm months, maybe every 2 months during cold months (have to wait for a warmer dry day, a rarity here in winter).
When I sold my old car a few months ago, the buyer remarked on how clean and almost brand-new that 5 year-old car looked. Easily netted me an extra thousand or so onto the price. Add that into the satisfaction and value of owning a clean shiny car, and I'd say it's more than worth my time.

And to the OP... dude, shut up. Soft terry cloths are just as good as microfiber and cost a lot less (and you're going to buff and wax right afterwards, remember? so a couple of swirls is not big deal because you're going to take them out anyway). And as for your pompous "I only use professional grade products" ...
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Yeah, 'cause they're cheaper!
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dmurray14

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OH my.


You call yourself a "detail guy" then suggest people dry their cars with an electric blower? Ha, ha. See you at autopia.com or any other detailing message board.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Shockwave
1) Cold wash car. Essentially a towel and hose
2) Hot wash car. Hot soapy water + another towel
3) Apply pre wax
4) Apply wax
5) Buff
6) Repeat 4 and 5
7) Vaccum
8) Armor All all interior panels
9) Q-Tip all seams and vents
10) Armor All Window Cleaner all windows, inside and out
11) Warm clean water to damp cloth, clean leather seats
12) Apply Leather Conditioner to leather

Thats my average guide to cleaning my car. Takes around 5 to 6 hours start to finish, little longer if wax doesnt set up and dry fast.
Keep in mind, thats my average. The Delux involves Clay bar, rim cleaner, RainX and a few other goodies.
I think you're clinically insane.
i concur.

how often do you do this "average" treatment?
I do more or less the same thing (my procedure is similar but a little different) to my cars at least once a month during warm months, maybe every 2 months during cold months (have to wait for a warmer dry day, a rarity here in winter).
When I sold my old car a few months ago, the buyer remarked on how clean and almost brand-new that 5 year-old car looked. Easily netted me an extra thousand or so onto the price. Add that into the satisfaction and value of owning a clean shiny car, and I'd say it's more than worth my time.

And to the OP... dude, shut up. Soft terry cloths are just as good as microfiber and cost a lot less (and you're going to buff and wax right afterwards, remember? so a couple of swirls is not big deal because you're going to take them out anyway). And as for your pompous "I only use professional grade products" ...
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Yeah, 'cause they're cheaper!
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You cant read can you? I didnt post about waxing I posted about WASHING TIPS. Terry cloth are fine if your going to WAX yes, but I was giving tips for washing only and terry cloth do NOT finish as well as microfiber do.

As for the cheaper thing your a joke unless you know what my chemicals cost then you have NO clue why I use them. I dont care about price I have to buy them in large quantities so I go that route for a few reasons also. I need to be able to use them in direct sunlight and most retail products dont allow this.

I have been doing this for 14 years so I think I know what I am doing.
 

dmurray14

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
1) Cold wash car. Essentially a towel and hose
2) Hot wash car. Hot soapy water + another towel
3) Apply pre wax
4) Apply wax
5) Buff
6) Repeat 4 and 5
7) Vaccum
8) Armor All all interior panels
9) Q-Tip all seams and vents
10) Armor All Window Cleaner all windows, inside and out
11) Warm clean water to damp cloth, clean leather seats
12) Apply Leather Conditioner to leather

Thats my average guide to cleaning my car. Takes around 5 to 6 hours start to finish, little longer if wax doesnt set up and dry fast.
Keep in mind, thats my average. The Delux involves Clay bar, rim cleaner, RainX and a few other goodies.


I feel ya. My detailing "sessions" are known to take a whole day, but probably because I'm so insanely meticulous when it comes to car detailing.

I think it's worth it in the end, though. ;)
 

Ameesh

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Krassus
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Ok, so I got lazy with the details on the final steps. It takes me generally all day, but my "maintenance" wash (once a week) is about 2 hours.
You wash your car once a week? I just can't bring myself to care about it that much.
That's because you drive a sh1tbox :D

or he has better stuff to do with his time, jesus i cant imagine spending 6 hours a week washing my car.
 

Electric Amish

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Krassus
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Ok, so I got lazy with the details on the final steps. It takes me generally all day, but my "maintenance" wash (once a week) is about 2 hours.
You wash your car once a week? I just can't bring myself to care about it that much.
That's because you drive a sh1tbox :D

Fvck you. I like my car.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: dmurray14
OH my.


You call yourself a "detail guy" then suggest people dry their cars with an electric blower? Ha, ha. See you at autopia.com or any other detailing message board.

Like I care about the other boards my system works and I have the cars out there to show for it, 10 different people 10 different ways. My clients love the work I do and I am proud of it.

None of you people can see how these cars come out and it amazes me I come here to try and help and yet people knock me without even seeing the cars I do.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Shockwave
1) Cold wash car. Essentially a towel and hose
2) Hot wash car. Hot soapy water + another towel
3) Apply pre wax
4) Apply wax
5) Buff
6) Repeat 4 and 5
7) Vaccum
8) Armor All all interior panels
9) Q-Tip all seams and vents
10) Armor All Window Cleaner all windows, inside and out
11) Warm clean water to damp cloth, clean leather seats
12) Apply Leather Conditioner to leather

Thats my average guide to cleaning my car. Takes around 5 to 6 hours start to finish, little longer if wax doesnt set up and dry fast.
Keep in mind, thats my average. The Delux involves Clay bar, rim cleaner, RainX and a few other goodies.
I think you're clinically insane.
i concur.

how often do you do this "average" treatment?
I do more or less the same thing (my procedure is similar but a little different) to my cars at least once a month during warm months, maybe every 2 months during cold months (have to wait for a warmer dry day, a rarity here in winter).
When I sold my old car a few months ago, the buyer remarked on how clean and almost brand-new that 5 year-old car looked. Easily netted me an extra thousand or so onto the price. Add that into the satisfaction and value of owning a clean shiny car, and I'd say it's more than worth my time.

And to the OP... dude, shut up. Soft terry cloths are just as good as microfiber and cost a lot less (and you're going to buff and wax right afterwards, remember? so a couple of swirls is not big deal because you're going to take them out anyway). And as for your pompous "I only use professional grade products" ...
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
Yeah, 'cause they're cheaper!
rolleye.gif

Did you get one of those terry cloths stuck up your arse or what, man? Relax. There's this wonderful notion of opinion.

And swirls ARE a big deal, even if it's just micromarring. Everytime you polish you are REMOVING clearcoat; how much is contingent upon the abrasiveness of the polish of course. The only way to truly get rid of swirls is to use an abrasive, so why in the hell would you want to introduce swirls everytime you wash? Wax does absolutely nothing for swirls, and buffing out may exacerbate surface marring when done with a terry cloth as the larger fibers come in contact with indentations.

Microfiber is pretty much the cloth of choice for detailing cars, and I honestly never hear of anyone other than the ignorant using terry cloth towels to dry. Most 100% cotton terry clothes aren't really 100% cotton anyway, and they soak up a lot less water. A nice waffle-weave microfiber will dry an entire car without having to drag it across the surface.
 

dmurray14

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: dmurray14
OH my.


You call yourself a "detail guy" then suggest people dry their cars with an electric blower? Ha, ha. See you at autopia.com or any other detailing message board.

Like I care about the other boards my system works and I have the cars out there to show for it, 10 different people 10 different ways. My clients love the work I do and I am proud of it.

None of you people can see how these cars come out and it amazes me I come here to try and help and yet people knock me without even seeing the cars I do.

Glad it works for you. If you are gonna complain about how we suck because we knock you before seeing your work, post a picture like I did.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Krassus
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Ok, so I got lazy with the details on the final steps. It takes me generally all day, but my "maintenance" wash (once a week) is about 2 hours.
You wash your car once a week? I just can't bring myself to care about it that much.
That's because you drive a sh1tbox :D

or he has better stuff to do with his time, jesus i cant imagine spending 6 hours a week washing my car.

I spend so much of my time solving problems and thinking that I derive satisfaction from something ostensibly simple like detailing a car. I also like the way it looks.
 

Ns1

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i hate my big blue towel, and i love meguiar's MF towels.


and to the person taht said using the electric blower is shibby, wanna explain why? theoretically speaking, it's far superior than toweling off your car because you're not touching the paint, which means you can't scratch/swirl it.


qualified to make an opinion .
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
You cant read can you? I didnt post about waxing I posted about WASHING TIPS. Terry cloth are fine if your going to WAX yes, but I was giving tips for washing only and terry cloth do NOT finish as well as microfiber do.

As for the cheaper thing your a joke unless you know what my chemicals cost then you have NO clue why I use them. I dont care about price I have to buy them in large quantities so I go that route for a few reasons also. I need to be able to use them in direct sunlight and most retail products dont allow this.

I have been doing this for 14 years so I think I know what I am doing.
As do I. I detailed cars to pay my way through school. It's a crappy job and the pay is crap with high overhead, and customers are stupid (except for the few who know quality work when they see it). It's certainly not something I think anyone should brag about.
And true, microfiber finishes better if you're not waxing afterwards but it's expensive and most people won't even recognize the difference.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Krassus
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Ok, so I got lazy with the details on the final steps. It takes me generally all day, but my "maintenance" wash (once a week) is about 2 hours.
You wash your car once a week? I just can't bring myself to care about it that much.
That's because you drive a sh1tbox :D

or he has better stuff to do with his time, jesus i cant imagine spending 6 hours a week washing my car.

I spend so much of my time solving problems and thinking that I derive satisfaction from something ostensibly simple like detailing a car. I also like the way it looks.

I can't believe that if you even just cut the time in half that anyone would be able to tell any difference.

My car
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: dmurray14
Originally posted by: Shockwave
1) Cold wash car. Essentially a towel and hose
2) Hot wash car. Hot soapy water + another towel
3) Apply pre wax
4) Apply wax
5) Buff
6) Repeat 4 and 5
7) Vaccum
8) Armor All all interior panels
9) Q-Tip all seams and vents
10) Armor All Window Cleaner all windows, inside and out
11) Warm clean water to damp cloth, clean leather seats
12) Apply Leather Conditioner to leather

Thats my average guide to cleaning my car. Takes around 5 to 6 hours start to finish, little longer if wax doesnt set up and dry fast.
Keep in mind, thats my average. The Delux involves Clay bar, rim cleaner, RainX and a few other goodies.


I feel ya. My detailing "sessions" are known to take a whole day, but probably because I'm so insanely meticulous when it comes to car detailing.

I think it's worth it in the end, though. ;)

Looks good to me! :beer::D Mind posting your methods?
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: dmurray14
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: dmurray14
OH my.


You call yourself a "detail guy" then suggest people dry their cars with an electric blower? Ha, ha. See you at autopia.com or any other detailing message board.

Like I care about the other boards my system works and I have the cars out there to show for it, 10 different people 10 different ways. My clients love the work I do and I am proud of it.

None of you people can see how these cars come out and it amazes me I come here to try and help and yet people knock me without even seeing the cars I do.

Glad it works for you. If you are gonna complain about how we suck because we knock you before seeing your work, post a picture like I did.

Wow a picture yeah you sure can see that up CLOSE HUH? I dont care about your picture cause it doesnt show a thing only seeing it up close can truely show anything.

 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Krassus
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Ok, so I got lazy with the details on the final steps. It takes me generally all day, but my "maintenance" wash (once a week) is about 2 hours.
You wash your car once a week? I just can't bring myself to care about it that much.
That's because you drive a sh1tbox :D

or he has better stuff to do with his time, jesus i cant imagine spending 6 hours a week washing my car.

I spend so much of my time solving problems and thinking that I derive satisfaction from something ostensibly simple like detailing a car. I also like the way it looks.

I can't believe that if you even just cut the time in half that anyone would be able to tell any difference.

My car

it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks as long as it makes you happy

 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Krassus
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Ok, so I got lazy with the details on the final steps. It takes me generally all day, but my "maintenance" wash (once a week) is about 2 hours.
You wash your car once a week? I just can't bring myself to care about it that much.
That's because you drive a sh1tbox :D

or he has better stuff to do with his time, jesus i cant imagine spending 6 hours a week washing my car.

I spend so much of my time solving problems and thinking that I derive satisfaction from something ostensibly simple like detailing a car. I also like the way it looks.

I can't believe that if you even just cut the time in half that anyone would be able to tell any difference.

You're a software developer if I remember correctly, yes? Would your clients be able to tell the difference between the use of a highly-cohesive domain model or an amorphous class hierarchy? Nope, but I do :D It's all about satisfaction in ones work I guess.
 

bernse

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
and to the person taht said using the electric blower is shibby, wanna explain why?

Well, my concern with that is a blower moves a big volume of air really fast... including dust, dirt, fluff bunnys, whatever. So, you'll be blowing all this dust onto your wet car, which makes it, uh, dirty again.

HOWEVER, :beer: for WaTaGuMp trying to help out fellow AT'rs!

:)
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
i hate my big blue towel, and i love meguiar's MF towels.


and to the person taht said using the electric blower is shibby, wanna explain why? theoretically speaking, it's far superior than toweling off your car because you're not touching the paint, which means you can't scratch/swirl it.


qualified to make an opinion .

Blasphemy! I LOOOVE my Big Blue Towel :D I drape the whole thing over my car, pat once, and move on. Granted, I do the California Water Blade right before though.

I've never used Meguiar's MF towels, but I might give them a shot. I generally use PakShak or Viper MF.
 

Electric Amish

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You're a software developer if I remember correctly, yes? Would your clients be able to tell the difference between the use of a highly-cohesive domain model or an amorphous class hierarchy? Nope, but I do It's all about satisfaction in ones work I guess.

No I'm not, but there's gotta be a point of diminishing returns