Can't even be a nice guy these days

Wheezer

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Story

Try to help someone and what do you get? dead.

JEFFERSONVILLE, Ohio - A man is facing charges after a fight at a Fayette County Waffle House left another man dead.

On Sunday, Ross 'Scooter' Sykes (pictured, right) and his fiancee stopped at the restaurant near U.S. Route 35 and Interstate 71, 10TV News reported.

Employees said a group of customers began harassing a waitress after a cash register malfunctioned.

Skyes came to the waitress's defense and was knocked unconscious, 10TV News reported.

"(His fiancee) called me at 4 in the morning and said, 'There's something really wrong with Scooter, he's lying on the ground,'" said Sykes' mother, Karen Cutlip.

He was taken to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Jesse Brakeall was charged with one count of felonious assault. He posted bail and was released.

Stay with 10TV News and 10TV.com for more information.
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Ns1

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Originally posted by: jagec
+1 mobthink.

hope whoever did it gets sued to oblivion, loses his assets, and then goes to FPMITA
 

Sqube

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Whycome felonious assault and not homicide?

Guy A hits Guy B, Guy B dies. How is that not murder?
 

axelfox

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Originally posted by: Sqube
Whycome felonious assault and not homicide?

Guy A hits Guy B, Guy B dies. How is that not murder?

Probably lacked the requisite mens rea.
 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: Sqube
Whycome felonious assault and not homicide?

Guy A hits Guy B, Guy B dies. How is that not murder?


IIRC Manslaughter because the intent was never to kill him.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: Sqube
Whycome felonious assault and not homicide?

Guy A hits Guy B, Guy B dies. How is that not murder?


IIRC Manslaughter because the intent was never to kill him.

Hitting somebody hard enough or enough times to knock them unconscious / kill them is intent to kill, at least in my opinion. That guy should NOT be out on bail.
 

maxster

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Manslaughter at the minimum. I don't think they will be charged with murder since punching someone is not intent to kill. Civil suit won't really do anything since if they're not rich they'll just not pay.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: maxster
Manslaughter at the minimum. I don't think they will be charged with murder since punching someone is not intent to kill. Civil suit won't really do anything since if they're not rich they'll just not pay.

it'll make them suffer at the very least.
 

ktehmok

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I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

 

QED

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

Oh, look dear... it's another e-thug!

 

jme5343

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

Oh, look dear... it's another e-thug!

Yep, VERY tough fellow indeed.
 
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Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

Wow....just....wow. :roll:
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

Thank goodness there aren't more people like you in the world...

Let me get this straight, Group A is abusing (yes GROUP) person A, Person B see this and steps up to them, tells them to back off. Group A (or person in group A) Hits and kills person B. And your response is basically "He had it coming to him". Sorry, but that is retarded and I hope you know it. If I get anything from your post, it is that you would be the pansy sitting back (or a member of the group harassing the waitress) thinking "Yeah, she deserves to be treated like this because I didn't get my way"

I hope you get locked up real soon here, you are scum.
 

deepred98

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

you're my hero :roll:

I wonder if the guys were drunk or something?

edit: they still haven't fixed the "disgust" smiley?
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

so you wouldn't lift a finger if a group of thugs were raping your mom?
 

BoomerD

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Another case of "No good deed goes unpunished."

Seriously, while I can commend the guy for wanting to help, in this day& age, unless you're "packin heat," this can be a very stupid thing to do. FAR too many people have grown the thug mentality and will wreak their vengance on you for "daring to intervene." IMO, that doesn't make it wrong to try to help, but it COULD be a stupid thing to do.
I'm anything but a pansy, but nowadays, I think I'd just make the call to 9-11 and let the cops handle it...after all, the story says they were harassing the waitress and says NOTHING about her actually being in danger...
 

Gothgar

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the article doesn't make it sound like they pounded on him or anything it just says they hit him and he fell down and died pretty much... weird...
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: Sqube
Whycome felonious assault and not homicide?

Guy A hits Guy B, Guy B dies. How is that not murder?


IIRC Manslaughter because the intent was never to kill him.

Hitting somebody hard enough or enough times to knock them unconscious / kill them is intent to kill, at least in my opinion. That guy should NOT be out on bail.

I disagree. If you got in a school fight with someone and punched them in the face, was your intent to kill? No. If they fell over the bench behind them, smacked their head on the locker and died of head trauma, you shouldn't be prosecuted the same as someone who shot someone else with a gun. IMO.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: jagec
+1 mobthink.

hope whoever did it gets sued to oblivion, loses his assets, and then goes to FPMITA

I seriously doubt he has any money. Most neanderthals don't. I do hope he goes away for life to a FPMITA prison though...and if he has prior felonies just execute this worthless piece of crap.
 
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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

Oh, look dear... it's another e-thug!

Doesn't diminish the fact that he's right (about the civil litigation part I mean). I'd be happy to chip in for that kind of bail fund.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
I just love the weakling mentality of some of the posters here....Sue them, take them to court, ow! Wtf good does that do the guy who is dead? So his relatives might score enough cash for a new ride or a kitchen remodel over his death? You make me want to puke.

Here's a valuable tip for wannabe heroes: If you can't take a punch, don't get into a fucking fight. Or if, in a situation like this, and you want to intervene. Take your scarf (you know you have one momma's boy), put the glass sugar dispenser, or both of the salt & pepper containers from the counter in it, then confront them and start cracking heads, until they get tired of it or they cannot stand bleeding any longer.

Anyone who's solution to a relative being killed is solely civil litigation, is an ineffectual nothing. I see there a few of them here.

If someone hurt a member of my family. I'd be the first one in line to pay his bail....

Let me get this straight, you're actually defending the actions of the worthless piece of shit who did this? :confused:

Wow, just wow...