Canon 5D is confirmed, 12 megapixel full frame sensor DSLR!

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I do hope this camera sells as well as Canon hopes, because the more units it moves, the more cost effective it will be to produce full size sensors. This is also why I will never buy an EF-S lens. Someday I will want to replace my 20D, but not soon. It has the resolution, flexibility and low noise I want in a camera. I love shooting in RAW, and I can do that nicely, thank you.

I have a 20D too but I have both the 17-85IS and the 10-22 ef-s lenses. IMO, you are missing out on a lot by not taking advantage of your cameras ability to mount those lenses. Canon seems to be taking a 1.6x=consumer and FF=professional approach. FF is not coming down to the sub 1K price-point any time too soon. EF-S lenses will hold their value well enough. If I wanted to purchase the 5D when it became available, I could easily sell my ef-s lenses for nearly what I paid for them. This should continue to be the case in the foreseeable future.

I had the 28-135IS w/ my 10D and sold it for the 17-85IS when I upgraded to a 20D. The 17-85IS is a much better walk-around lens while the 10-22 provides real ultra-wa shooting on a 1.6x crop body. I'd seriously reconsider not buying ef-s lenses considering it is one of the advantages of your camera body.

..although the 24-105L IS does seem pretty, depending on the price.

Of all the lenses, the 10-22 is the most appealing, but I went with the 17-40L. If in the future I need a superwide, I will probably go with a Russian fisheye. Not rectilinear, but still fun I think.

The major advantage I see for this camera isnt the sexy MP count, but the potential for lower noise. Even that isn't enough to sway me, because I shot some interior pics with the 20D at ISO 3200 and processed through Neat Image. They came out quite clean. So what would really be an advantage for me? the ability to go out in bad weather, where a lot of great pics can be taken without worrying about the camera. That is distinctly lacking here.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: NFS4
Hehe. I think I'll stick with my Nikon D70 for now. All of these newfangled digicams are too advanced for me 😀

Your Gadget Whore card hangs in the balance.

Hey, I already ditched my Dell Axim X50v...and my Athlon 64 3200+ desktop computer. Soley working from a Centrino laptop now

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: NFS4
Hehe. I think I'll stick with my Nikon D70 for now. All of these newfangled digicams are too advanced for me 😀

Your Gadget Whore card hangs in the balance.

Hey, I already ditched my Dell Axim X50v...and my Athlon 64 3200+ desktop computer. Soley working from a Centrino laptop now

The n00b has been converted. Welcome. 😀

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: NFS4
Hehe. I think I'll stick with my Nikon D70 for now. All of these newfangled digicams are too advanced for me 😀

Your Gadget Whore card hangs in the balance.

Hey, I already ditched my Dell Axim X50v...and my Athlon 64 3200+ desktop computer. Soley working from a Centrino laptop now

The n00b has been converted. Welcome. 😀

aka whipped by gf 😛

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: m2kewl

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: NFS4
Hehe. I think I'll stick with my Nikon D70 for now. All of these newfangled digicams are too advanced for me 😀

Your Gadget Whore card hangs in the balance.

Hey, I already ditched my Dell Axim X50v...and my Athlon 64 3200+ desktop computer. Soley working from a Centrino laptop now

The n00b has been converted. Welcome. 😀

aka whipped by gf 😛

Wemens are EXPENSIVE!

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Hey, I already ditched my Dell Axim X50v...

Am glad I opted to wait for a VGA Pocket PC phone over the X50v, which should be hitting the consumer market soon enough.

 

[Pneumothorax]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rh71
the $$$$ are strong with this one.

Hehe. I think I'll stick with my Nikon D70 for now. All of these newfangled digicams are too advanced for me 😀

I bought the D70 last year and regret it. Canon seems to have all the new stuffs. They even released a 2nd gen 75-300 IS lens while Nikon still hasn't released one other than the uber expensive 70-200 VR (>$1500)

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Pneumothorax

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rh71
the $$$$ are strong with this one.

Hehe. I think I'll stick with my Nikon D70 for now. All of these newfangled digicams are too advanced for me 😀

I bought the D70 last year and regret it. Canon seems to have all the new stuffs. They even released a 2nd gen 75-300 IS lens while Nikon still hasn't released one other than the uber expensive 70-200 VR (>$1500)

nikon always has and most likely always will have 2 lines of cameras and lenses, consumer and pro, IMO i see nothing wrong with that

canon OTOH IMO makes way to much stuff

ill be sticking with my D70 as well, hell even if the rumored 12mp D200 comes out ill still stick with it because it currently does everything i need, there are currently no shortcummings with the camera

 

[Koenigsegg]

Originally posted by: feelingshorter

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Canon is supposedly going to be releasing a 5D which is going to be a full frame DSLR!!! 13 megapixels too!

wow, full frame and 16.6 megapixels!

haha but it costs about the same as a car

Ha, you can put each color in the 24-bit color scale on each pixel. . .minus about 100,000.

 

[Merlyn3D]

Originally posted by: feelingshorter

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Canon is supposedly going to be releasing a 5D which is going to be a full frame DSLR!!! 13 megapixels too!

wow, full frame and 16.6 megapixels!

haha but it costs about the same as a car

Yeah, I'm not sure I'd pay for something that's the price of a car, if it could easily be thrown out the car window.

Hell...even laptops aren't that expensive.

 

[shortylickens]

wow, full frame and 16.6 megapixels![/quote]

The "Low" resolution is 2496x1664. :shocked:

 

[Doggiedog]

They finally decided to put a spot meter in one of these things. That's the one thing I wish my 20D had.

That new EF 24-105mm F/4.0IS looks really nice. I may have to ebay off my EF-S 17-85mm for that lens.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
They finally decided to put a spot meter in one of these things. That's the one thing I wish my 20D had.

Same here. The thing about the 5D though is it only has a 3 fps max shooting speed. Not too useful for shooting sports.

That new EF 24-105mm F/4.0IS looks really nice. I may have to ebay off my EF-S 17-85mm for that lens.

I just did that. 🙂 Hopefully I get the 24-105 L within a month.

(P.S. If anyone is interested in my 17-85, pm me.)

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
They finally decided to put a spot meter in one of these things. That's the one thing I wish my 20D had.

Same here. The thing about the 5D though is it only has a 3 fps max shooting speed. Not too useful for shooting sports.

That new EF 24-105mm F/4.0IS looks really nice. I may have to ebay off my EF-S 17-85mm for that lens.

I just did that. 🙂 Hopefully I get the 24-105 L within a month.

You know it's going to cost more than the 24-70mm f/2.8? I can see why people want it because of the IS, but charging that much is crazy talk.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Wallydraigle

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
They finally decided to put a spot meter in one of these things. That's the one thing I wish my 20D had.

Same here. The thing about the 5D though is it only has a 3 fps max shooting speed. Not too useful for shooting sports.

That new EF 24-105mm F/4.0IS looks really nice. I may have to ebay off my EF-S 17-85mm for that lens.

I just did that. 🙂 Hopefully I get the 24-105 L within a month.

You know it's going to cost more than the 24-70mm f/2.8? I can see why people want it because of the IS, but charging that much is crazy talk.

Actually, in Canada the price of the 24-105 is similar or cheaper than the 24-70.

And I have much more interest in the 24-105 f/4L IS than I do the 24-70 f/2.8. The 24-70 is significantly heavier, and a bit short on the long end for my tastes. In fact, I specifically chose the 17-85 originally for these reasons. I didn't want to spend that kind of coin on a heavy lens that was too short on the tele end.

FWIW, Chuck Westfall claims the 24-105L will be as good or possibly better than the 24-70 (if you can ignore the lack of f/2.8).

 

[SSP]

Another toy I cant afford from Canon, or rather... choose to not buy. 😀

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: TechITguy
13 Megapixels? Holy crap!

You do realize that Canon already has a 16 Megapixel camera don't you?

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Wallydraigle

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
They finally decided to put a spot meter in one of these things. That's the one thing I wish my 20D had.

Same here. The thing about the 5D though is it only has a 3 fps max shooting speed. Not too useful for shooting sports.

That new EF 24-105mm F/4.0IS looks really nice. I may have to ebay off my EF-S 17-85mm for that lens.

I just did that. 🙂 Hopefully I get the 24-105 L within a month.

You know it's going to cost more than the 24-70mm f/2.8? I can see why people want it because of the IS, but charging that much is crazy talk.

Actually, in Canada the price of the 24-105 is similar or cheaper than the 24-70.

And I have much more interest in the 24-105 f/4L IS than I do the 24-70 f/2.8. The 24-70 is significantly heavier, and a bit short on the long end for my tastes. In fact, I specifically chose the 17-85 originally for these reasons. I didn't want to spend that kind of coin on a heavy lens that was too short on the tele end.

FWIW, Chuck Westfall claims the 24-105L will be as good or possibly better than the 24-70 (if you can ignore the lack of f/2.8).

The samples do look very good.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
sweet.. now when can i afford one.... is the question.

Not to mention the lenses. You don't buy this camera and slap a $100 kit zoom lens on it...unless you're an idiot of course.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
sweet.. now when can i afford one.... is the question.

Not to mention the lenses. You don't buy this camera and slap a $100 kit zoom lens on it...unless you're an idiot of course.

The newly introduced Canon EF 25-105 F4L lens is MSRPing for $1249.00. That's about as cheap as they get for "L" zoom lenses, excluding the 17-40 F4L.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
sweet.. now when can i afford one.... is the question.

Not to mention the lenses. You don't buy this camera and slap a $100 kit zoom lens on it...unless you're an idiot of course.

The newly introduced Canon EF 25-105 F4L lens is MSRPing for $1249.00. That's about as cheap as they get for "L" zoom lenses, excluding the 17-40 F4L.

Actually, the 70-200 f/4L is around $600. I own that lens and the 17-40 f/4L.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
sweet.. now when can i afford one.... is the question.

Not to mention the lenses. You don't buy this camera and slap a $100 kit zoom lens on it...unless you're an idiot of course.

The newly introduced Canon EF 25-105 F4L lens is MSRPing for $1249.00. That's about as cheap as they get for "L" zoom lenses, excluding the 17-40 F4L.

Actually, the 70-200 f/4L is around $600. I own that lens and the 17-40 f/4L.

Who wants that lens when you can buy a 70-200 2.8L IS for $1100 more? 😀

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
sweet.. now when can i afford one.... is the question.

Not to mention the lenses. You don't buy this camera and slap a $100 kit zoom lens on it...unless you're an idiot of course.

Heh. My next lens purchase after this is a 50 mm f/1.8, and that costs less than a 100 bux. 😛

It's just going to be used for available light photos when needed.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Actually, the 70-200 f/4L is around $600. I own that lens and the 17-40 f/4L.

Yeah, I have that lens too. Awesome lens for the price, and a lot lighter than the other 70-200L lenses. (I'm a bit weight averse for lenses.)

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
sweet.. now when can i afford one.... is the question.

Not to mention the lenses. You don't buy this camera and slap a $100 kit zoom lens on it...unless you're an idiot of course.

Heh. My next lens purchase after this is a 50 mm f/1.8, and that costs less than a 100 bux. 😛

It's just going to be used for available light photos when needed.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Actually, the 70-200 f/4L is around $600. I own that lens and the 17-40 f/4L.

Yeah, I have that lens too. Awesome lens for the price, and a lot lighter than the other 70-200L lenses. (I'm a bit weight averse for lenses.)

Yes, the weight of the 70-200 disturbs me too. So where does one get a light and sharp telephoto? Maybe the EF 200 F2.8L prime?

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
They finally decided to put a spot meter in one of these things. That's the one thing I wish my 20D had.

Same here. The thing about the 5D though is it only has a 3 fps max shooting speed. Not too useful for shooting sports.

That new EF 24-105mm F/4.0IS looks really nice. I may have to ebay off my EF-S 17-85mm for that lens.

I just did that. 🙂 Hopefully I get the 24-105 L within a month.

(P.S. If anyone is interested in my 17-85, pm me.)

Its a shame that the 24-105mm is going to cost $1250. Even if I sell off my 17-85mm, I still need to scrounge up another $700-$800.

I'm just not too thrilled with the 17-85mm. The variable aperature on it really stinks and the bokeh is non-existant.