Canadians don't seem to know much about their own government...

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Firebot
I love how those who decry that the Canadian government should be reformed or that Canadians aren't in a democratic system happen to be liberals, and decried only AFTER Harper prorogued parliament. They were quite fine with the constitutional monarchy system and the idea of an NDP Liberal coalition forming made possible by the Canadian system before prorogation.

The questions being asked are mostly technicalities. The powers held by the Queen are representational only, much like it is in Britain who also practices constitutional monarchy. Who is the head of state of Canada is basically a trick question.

Wha?

I wasn't aware that I had a problem with the system as it is.

I think the GG made a good decision.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

I know it is sad, and what worst is that Canadian refuse to accept that American republic system is a much more democratic system than the farcy govern system that Cadian call "democratic".

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I completely disagree on your assessment of the US system.

The main thing is how easily can either one be bought out?

It's clear the U.S. system is easily bought and sold by highest bidder.

Is the Canadian system similar or worse?

A few years ago government capped the donation amount from individuals and corporations to political parties. $1,100 for individuals, not sure if it's the same for corporations. Due to reduced income for the parties public funding was introduced by giving a party $1.75 per vote.

Looking out for your buddies and not the people who elected you is still a problem, but we're off to a good start.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: toonces

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
http://thewhig.com/ArticleDisp...THE%20CANADIAN%20PRESS

you see? its not just americans

I would not be surprised at all if the average Canadian knew more about the American government than they did of their own government. It's part of the Canadian psyche. It's part of their obsession.

Kind of like how the average small town resident knows more about the local politics in the nearest big city than what happens in his own. This isn't because Canadians are inferior or Americans are superior; it's just the nature of an imbalance in power between two parties.

No, but the environment makes one have an inferiority complex while the other has a superiority complex.

 

[CanOWorms]

The problem is that Canada developed from a feudal system and much of that is now ingrained into their culture. Thus, they lack an introspective nature and are unable to break themselves away from this bizarre, archaic state. It's much closer to the psuedo-democracies of Europe. It's sad that even Zimbabwe is more democratic. Their culture cannot be changed because it's owned by the government and the government is owned by the Queen and run by her servants. Why would they want to change the peasant-lord system?

When it comes to governance, the world continues the 21st century while Canada will continue the 16th century.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Firebot
I love how those who decry that the Canadian government should be reformed or that Canadians aren't in a democratic system happen to be liberals, and decried only AFTER Harper prorogued parliament. They were quite fine with the constitutional monarchy system and the idea of an NDP Liberal coalition forming made possible by the Canadian system before prorogation.

The questions being asked are mostly technicalities. The powers held by the Queen are representational only, much like it is in Britain who also practices constitutional monarchy. Who is the head of state of Canada is basically a trick question.

Wha?

I wasn't aware that I had a problem with the system as it is.

I think the GG made a good decision.

Huh? Didn't your hear all those Libs with their Senate Reform, fixed Election Dates, and other nonsense??

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Firebot
I love how those who decry that the Canadian government should be reformed or that Canadians aren't in a democratic system happen to be liberals, and decried only AFTER Harper prorogued parliament. They were quite fine with the constitutional monarchy system and the idea of an NDP Liberal coalition forming made possible by the Canadian system before prorogation.

The questions being asked are mostly technicalities. The powers held by the Queen are representational only, much like it is in Britain who also practices constitutional monarchy. Who is the head of state of Canada is basically a trick question.

No. The Queen Bitch has more roles than just as a representative in the UK.

If Canada and the UK want to practice their barbaric custom, they should remove the government recognition of this inbred bloodline as superior and let the peasants worship them if they want to.

 

[imported_Champ]

Originally posted by: ZzZGuy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

I know it is sad, and what worst is that Canadian refuse to accept that American republic system is a much more democratic system than the farcy govern system that Cadian call "democratic".

List of countries by system of government

I completely disagree on your assessment of the US system.

The main thing is how easily can either one be bought out?

It's clear the U.S. system is easily bought and sold by highest bidder.

Is the Canadian system similar or worse?

A few years ago government capped the donation amount from individuals and corporations to political parties. $1,100 for individuals, not sure if it's the same for corporations. Due to reduced income for the parties public funding was introduced by giving a party $1.75 per vote.

Looking out for your buddies and not the people who elected you is still a problem, but we're off to a good start.

the per vote thing was introduced by the liberals a long while ago while harper put in place the donation cap

 

[imported_Champ]

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

I know it is sad, and what worst is that Canadian refuse to accept that American republic system is a much more democratic system than the farcy govern system that Cadian call "democratic".

List of countries by system of government

I completely disagree on your assessment of the US system.

Inferiority complex of the average Canadian refuse to accept that our governing system isn't democratic.

We are govern by the governor general that answer to the queen. And, don't let the pseudo elections fool you into thinking that we govern ourself thought elect representatives, because ultimately the GG appoint the senates and the prime minister.

In the 80s our elected representatives failed to separate complete ties with England, and the house of common voted/asked the Queen to give more power to Canadian elected govern body to self determination/administration.

The act of self determination work quite well till 1990 when the Conservative/Mulroney ran back to the Queen and ask her to intervened and created/appointed 8 additional conservative senates to pushed through the unpopular GST. And, in recent days, Conservative/Harper begs the GG to shut out the house of common to save his cowardice hide.

I was proud to be a Canadian when our elected representatives took the initiative to move forward to a democratic and self determination system in the 80s. But, now all is lost because we are no less than a Britain colony.

American is much better than us in the above respect, because their forefather have the foresight to remove Britain monarchy legacy from their governing system

the 8 additional conservative seats is legal act under the constitution

the Governor Generals job is to look out of the best interests of the country as the representative of the head of state. Then it is fully up to her to make her decision not based on any representative member but on the best interests of the state

 

[StinkyPinky]

I'm pretty sure that in Australia the Governor General dissolved the government sometime in the 1970's due to some problem and forced a new election. Can't comment on Canada, but it seems the Queen does still wield some influence in at least some commonwealth countries.

How people put up with that shit is beyond me.

 

[imported_Champ]

Oh and for anyone who will bring up Harpers senate appointees...let me just remind you of Treudeau's and Chretian's last minute appointees

and introduce you to Bert Brown Canada's second elected senator...manitoba bc and sask have yet to hold their elections for senators but if they were in place i would bet a large amount of money that you would see their choices enter the senate

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Champ
Oh and for anyone who will bring up Harpers senate appointees...let me just remind you of Treudeau's and Chretian's last minute appointees

and introduce you to Bert Brown Canada's second elected senator...manitoba bc and sask have yet to hold their elections for senators but if they were in place i would bet a large amount of money that you would see their choices enter the senate

The criticism of Harper in this is mostly of his own making since he's the one who insisted on them being Elected in the first place. Kinda like the Fixed Date Election that he decided not to follow either.

Personally I don't find this move to be "bad" or a action deserving criticism(other than his growing list of flip flopping , but by itself it's not a deal breaker). I think it shows that he's unsure if he'll remain PM for long and that it's better to get some Conservative members in the Senate just in case. I have also heard that the Senate is having difficulty getting things done due to a lack of Members, so the 18 new Members are needed badly.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

I certainly don't see anything wrong with the queen being the head of state. It's her right and thats the way it should be.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Dark4ng3l
I certainly don't see anything wrong with the queen being the head of state. It's her right and thats the way it should be.

Why is it her 'right'? Because she has a special bloodline that Canadians (among others) worship?

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Canada has a queen?

I believe she is called Shania Twain.

Now that's one quality Canadian....she's got great assets...