Canadians don't respect the 2nd Amendment

[rudeguy]

Are you the guy who almost pulled on your muffler shop (something like that) guy?
Why are you armed while sitting at your pc?

umm....no?

And you have to be on your toes around these computers. Never know what they are going to try.

 

[Orignal Earl]

umm....no?

And you have to be on your toes around these computers. Never know what they are going to try.

Ah ok
There was a thread in OT some guy wondering if he went over board in a situation, said he was almost ready to draw.

All I wear around my house is sweats and a tshirt, if you can't chill at home there's something really wrong
Actually here in the crime capital of Canada nobody even worries about shit outside
Be cool if someone like you could come check it out for a couple of months, see how life without that constant worry would be like

 

[rudeguy]

Ah ok
There was a thread in OT some guy wondering if he went over board in a situation, said he was almost ready to draw.

All I wear around my house is sweats and a tshirt, if you can't chill at home there's something really wrong

I'm at work.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Let me answer.

I am a gun owner. I concealed carry every day. As I type this I have a Glock 19 loaded with Gold Dot +Ps on my hip. I am the definition of a gun guy/nut/enthusiast. If you do not know where your gun is, you should not own that gun. If you "forget" that you have a gun on you, you should not be carrying that gun. If we follow your logic and the guy "forgot" he had left his gun in his car and one of the kids from the school found it and shot someone, the guy would be innocent. That is not how responsible gun ownership works.

The guy in the OP and the guy from the school both need to be charged with the appropriate felonies. Its because of idiots like them that I can't carry everywhere I want to. Fuck them and I hope they can never touch a gun again for the rest of their lives.

And this is an opinion by a gun owner I can respect. Too often people just react based on their pro gun stance and feel they have to attack anything negative related to firearms. There's a middle ground for the rational people.

 

[boomerang]

if you can't chill at home there's something really wrong

You bet.

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/louisiana-...oman-found-dead-after-reporting-home-break-in

You can find a bunch of these stories easily.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I'm at work.

That's still sad to me

 

[rudeguy]

That's still sad to me

why?

If something happens at the gas station in the morning or at the store on the way home, I want to be safe. Its not that I'm worried about what could happen while I'm at work. The biggest thing I have to worry about here is falling asleep.

 

[rudeguy]

And this is an opinion by a gun owner I can respect. Too often people just react based on their pro gun stance and feel they have to attack anything negative related to firearms. There's a middle ground for the rational people.

I get pissed when gun owners do stupid things. Every time stuff like that happens, its more ammo for the anti gun idiots to put more restrictions on me. If you are going to own a gun, if you are going to carry a gun, be responsible.

 

[Orignal Earl]

You bet.

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/louisiana-...oman-found-dead-after-reporting-home-break-in

You can find a bunch of these stories easily.

Yes I'm aware, the odds of your couch killing you are greater though
Or the bad effects from all the hand sanitizer a lot of folk are fond of

 

[boomerang]

Yes I'm aware, the odds of your couch killing you are greater though
Or the bad effects from all the hand sanitizer a lot of folk are fond of

Your emotional, illogical response is not unexpected but I had thought you were smarter than this. There are thoughts that flit through all our brains that we quickly discount, but only a chosen few put them in writing.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Your emotional, illogical response is not unexpected but I had thought you were smarter than this. There are thoughts that flit through all our brains that we quickly discount, but only a chosen few put them in writing.

It's not emotional or illogical, I do not know a single person in real life, who worries about getting killed when they go outside.
I read a lot of posts here from guys who arm themselves because someone could attack them
You just posted a list of what you consider reasons that someone needs to carry

 

[rudeguy]

It's not emotional or illogical, I do not know a single person in real life, who worries about getting killed when they go outside.
I read a lot of posts here from guys who arm themselves because someone could attack them

Here's a few that should have thought about it:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shootings/020010001165.topic

OK...that's Chicago. The liberal mecca of gun safety. How about local to me?

Ride the bus? That's a cap in your ass!
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/01/watch_three_videos_of_rapid_bu.html

Sit on your couch? That's a cap in your ass!
http://fox17online.com/2014/01/05/police-two-men-shoot-into-home-on-grand-rapids-southeast-side/

 

[Orignal Earl]

Here's a few that should have thought about it:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shootings/020010001165.topic

OK...that's Chicago. The liberal mecca of gun safety. How about local to me?

Ride the bus? That's a cap in your ass!
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/01/watch_three_videos_of_rapid_bu.html

Sit on your couch? That's a cap in your ass!
http://fox17online.com/2014/01/05/police-two-men-shoot-into-home-on-grand-rapids-southeast-side/

Do you think there is anywhere in the US that you would/could feel comfortable without a gun on your hip?

 

[rudeguy]

Do you think there is anywhere in the US that you would/could feel comfortable without a gun on your hip?

Not with the current state our society is in.

 

[TerryMathews]

It's not emotional or illogical, I do not know a single person in real life, who worries about getting killed when they go outside.
I read a lot of posts here from guys who arm themselves because someone could attack them
You just posted a list of what you consider reasons that someone needs to carry

There's a difference between paranoia and due caution. Concealed carry would have saved this woman's life:

http://m.daytondailynews.com/news/news/two-arrested-in-third-dog-attack-fatality-in-17-mo/ndHPq/

 

[Orignal Earl]

There's a difference between paranoia and due caution. Concealed carry would have saved this woman's life:

http://m.daytondailynews.com/news/news/two-arrested-in-third-dog-attack-fatality-in-17-mo/ndHPq/

Yes, if that guy didn't eat that chicken he wouldn't of got salmonella poisoning.
I wonder if this is more of an OCD thing for a lot of people here

 

[rudeguy]

Yes, if that guy didn't eat that chicken he wouldn't of got salmonella poisoning.
I wonder if this is more of an OCD thing for a lot of people here

If my life is in danger or if my son's life is in danger, I want to be able to stop the threat.

People like you really confuse me. You either don't believe that crime exists or you are ok cowering in a corner hoping that the police show up before you or your loved ones get killed.

 

[TerryMathews]

Yes, if that guy didn't eat that chicken he wouldn't of got salmonella poisoning.
I wonder if this is more of an OCD thing for a lot of people here

So, how would not having a gun made that situation better?

In case you didnt know, she was eaten to death. By dogs. And the reports are that he neighbors trained them to attack her and would release them every time she left the house.

 

[Orignal Earl]

If my life is in danger or if my son's life is in danger, I want to be able to stop the threat.

People like you really confuse me. You either don't believe that crime exists or you are ok cowering in a corner hoping that the police show up before you or your loved ones get killed.

I wouldn't recommend physically threatening me, and I am a lot more jumpy about my family.

Maybe after you have been around for a couple more decades, and your kids have made it to adulthood, you will learn to relax a little more

 

[rudeguy]

I wouldn't recommend physically threatening me, and I am a lot more jumpy about my family.

Maybe after you have been around for a couple more decades, and your kids have made it to adulthood, you will learn to relax a little more

So guy walks up to you and your family in the parking lot of the mall. He has a gun and points it at your wife. He says he is going to kill her if you don't drive him some place. What do you do?

 

[Orignal Earl]

So, how would not having a gun made that situation better?

In case you didnt know, she was eaten to death. By dogs. And the reports are that he neighbors trained them to attack her and would release them every time she left the house.

I didn't even click your link
If you are worrying about getting eaten by your neighbors dogs, go ahead and arm yourself, or move, or call someone, or

 

[TerryMathews]

I didn't even click your link
If you are worrying about getting eaten by your neighbors dogs, go ahead and arm yourself, or move, or call someone, or

Go figure. There's no point in even having a conversation with you, your faith is too strong.

FWIW, what I linked to you happened 15 miles from where I live, last week.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Go figure. There's no point in even having a conversation with you, your faith is too strong.

FWIW, what I linked to you happened 15 miles from where I live, last week.

What faith are you talking about?

 

[Venix]

Let me answer.

I am a gun owner. I concealed carry every day. As I type this I have a Glock 19 loaded with Gold Dot +Ps on my hip. I am the definition of a gun guy/nut/enthusiast. If you do not know where your gun is, you should not own that gun. If you "forget" that you have a gun on you, you should not be carrying that gun. If we follow your logic and the guy "forgot" he had left his gun in his car and one of the kids from the school found it and shot someone, the guy would be innocent. That is not how responsible gun ownership works.

The guy in the OP and the guy from the school both need to be charged with the appropriate felonies. Its because of idiots like them that I can't carry everywhere I want to. Fuck them and I hope they can never touch a gun again for the rest of their lives.

No, it's not responsible. It's also not grounds for years in prison on a felony conviction. A warning, ban from the property, revocation of carry permit, or misdemeanor conviction are appropriate reactions.

This is how the law already works in sane states (and apparently also in New York before the SAFE Act). Carrying somewhere prohibited is a felony only if it's done with ill intent or results in an injury. Otherwise it's a misdemeanor. The idea that someone can commit a felony without intent or gross criminal negligence is absurd.

You understand that politicians who dislike firearms would try to disarm you regardless of whether any of these other idiots existed, right? The rare irresponsible CPL holder isn't the reason for restrictions on carrying.

 

[TerryMathews]

What faith are you talking about?

Your faith that guns are the problem.