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Canadians are getting slightly upset....

This line says it all.

"Tory MP Elsie Wayne slammed the Liberal government for forcing the military to waste money on rentals, instead of investing in new ships and planes. "
 
Yea I saw the thread yesterday that half the people polled supported annexing Canada or something....

They only have 1 tank and it's always in the shop anyways....I say we start the invasion 😉
 
Why does Canada need any kind of an army? A few core of engineers guys to clear snow and build bridges in the northwest territory sure, but who messes with them?
 
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Why does Canada need any kind of an army? A few core of engineers guys to clear snow and build bridges in the northwest territory sure, but who messes with them?
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They don't need an Army, they have their big brother the US to cover thier ass. Plus If I were from Canada I would not trust an untested Army with no real combat experience to defend my country. THats why I glad I live in the greatest country in the world, the good old USA

 
Actually, some things about our military aren't so embarrassing. I know that the joint US-Canada fighting units in the Afghani mountains used Canadian snipers to great effect. Some of our vehicles are also coveted by other countries. Problem is, we can't get either out of the country without some help from the US or at least UPS. That infrastructure is gone.

But when the world wants peacekeepers, Canada is usually right in the middle of those efforts. To say that we have an untested army is unfair and untrue. They are just used differently than your own. Your forces are best suited to waging wars, while ours are more adept at preventing new ones. Please don't underestimate the value of the latter.

Craig
 
Originally posted by: chansen
Actually, some things about our military aren't so embarrassing. I know that the joint US-Canada fighting units in the Afghani mountains used Canadian snipers to great effect. Some of our vehicles are also coveted by other countries. Problem is, we can't get either out of the country without some help from the US or at least UPS. That infrastructure is gone.

But when the world wants peacekeepers, Canada is usually right in the middle of those efforts. To say that we have an untested army is unfair and untrue. They are just used differently than your own. Your forces are best suited to waging wars, while ours are more adept at preventing new ones. Please don't underestimate the value of the latter.

Craig
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I should have more specific. If I was Canadian, and my country was invaded I would much rather have the US Military fight off the opposing forces, then the Canadain Armed forces could keep the peace and hold the fort down. The US Military is a experienced and trained fighting machine, we have no business in peace keeping.......IMHO
 
Plus If I were from Canada I would not trust an untested Army with no real combat experience to defend my country.
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That's pretty stupid. The Canadian military has engaged in many of the major conflicts of our time. As Chansen mentioned Canada is among the most involved countries in the world for peace keeping (That's the little thing that happens after a big military operation).

Unfortunately the canadian military is pathetically underfunded. I mean absolutely pathetic.

US Military is a experienced and trained fighting machine, we have no business in peace keeping
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As per the definition peace keeping done effectively means there is less of a likelihood to war. It's politically and economically a better course of action when things allow.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Plus If I were from Canada I would not trust an untested Army with no real combat experience to defend my country.
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That's pretty stupid. The Canadian military has engaged in many of the major conflicts of our time. As Chansen mentioned Canada is among the most involved countries in the world for peace keeping (That's the little thing that happens after a big military operation).

Unfortunately the canadian military is pathetically underfunded. I mean absolutely pathetic.

US Military is a experienced and trained fighting machine, we have no business in peace keeping
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As per the definition peace keeping done effectively means there is less of a likelihood to war. It's politically and economically a better course of action when things allow.
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I think the reason the Canadain Military in so underfunded is that they know that if they were ever invaded that the US would back them 100%, now will Canada do the same for the US, I'm not so sure.


But they do have free health care

 
think the reason the Canadain Military in so underfunded is that they know that if they were ever invaded that the US would back them 100%, now will Canada do the same for the US, I'm not so sure.
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Sure they would help, because if we go down, then Canada would be next.

 
sean, you're right. I do not want our reservists called into action for the defense of our country. I don't think they could defend a chip wagon from a busload of hungry teens.

Still, I don't see any potential invaders on the horizon. If there are, we have two natural defenses - one on each coast. If attacked from the east, there's no way they get past the Newfies. Especially after the Newfies take them in and feed them for a month. The invaders will likely just settle down, drink some screetch and kiss a few cod. From the west, you've got Vancouver and it's thick fog of sweet-smelling smoke. It's disorienting.
 
think the reason the Canadain Military in so underfunded is that they know that if they were ever invaded that the US would back them 100%, now will Canada do the same for the US, I'm not so sure.


But they do have free health care
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It's true and I think also a little irresponsible, but you're right. Canada needs to pull its weight with military needs. Nobody is saying it should spend the same percentage of GDP as the US does, but among western nations Canada is one of the cheapest with its military.

Health care ain't free. Believe me Canadians pay for that in taxes!!
 
Who even has the resources to invade any part of North America? I doubt the Russians have the ability anymore, let alone the interest. Perhaps China does, but they'd run the risk of losing the 2008 Beijing Games.

The age of nations waging war on a grand scale is over, replaced by smaller groups carrying out acts of terror to make their point.
 
Originally posted by: chansen
Who even has the resources to invade any part of North America? I doubt the Russians have the ability anymore, let alone the interest. Perhaps China does, but they'd run the risk of losing the 2008 Beijing Games.

The age of nations waging war on a grand scale is over, replaced by smaller groups carrying out acts of terror to make their point.
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I don't think any country can invade North America, not even china. We could pluck them out of the sky and sink their ships before they got to our shores, and I don't think thet are stupid enough to try to start a nuclear war.

I was just using an invasion as example

 
While it's not really a good time to be proud of it, Canadian snipers are some of the best worldwide, and proved it in Afghanistan.

Until that yahoo chodeswallower bombed them. 🙁 Did you see the news special on that? One of them had bought an engagement ring to give to his fiancee. Now he'll never get to.

Lesson one - when command says "Hold your fire" and "Don't drop the bombs, you yokel" - don't drop the god damned bombs.
Lesson two - when you get back home, you best bend over and grab your ankles. Cause you're fscked.

- M4H
 
As Skoorb said, Canada does not have free health care. They tax you enough to cover the health care system.
 
Originally posted by: sean2002
Originally posted by: chansen
Who even has the resources to invade any part of North America? I doubt the Russians have the ability anymore, let alone the interest. Perhaps China does, but they'd run the risk of losing the 2008 Beijing Games.

The age of nations waging war on a grand scale is over, replaced by smaller groups carrying out acts of terror to make their point.
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I don't think any country can invade North America, not even china. We could pluck them out of the sky and sink their ships before they got to our shores, and I don't think thet are stupid enough to try to start a nuclear war.

I was just using an invasion as example
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And I was using it for an excuse to use the Beijing Games joke.
 
Originally posted by: Millenium
As Skoorb said, Canada does not have free health care. They tax you enough to cover the health care system.
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Yup. How'd you like to add 15% to everything you purchase, Americans? Not to mention having all your guns taken away, and the biggest fireworks you can buy are fscking sparklers. Wow, what a way to celebrate Canada Day. 😛

- M4H
 
Maybe Canada should really give up on warfare...I mean look at the Avro arrow, at the time its the best of its kind out there....and what happens? Our priminister craps the project and the best of the workers go to the US to later develop the Blackbird. Kinda makes you wonder why we even try.

As for health care, I think its 100% worth the taxes for it.
 
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