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Canadian Troops killed by US Pilot in Afghanistan

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<< I wasn't intending to imply that. Nonetheless, our soldiers there are merely a show of support, the Americans could easily do this alone. Therefore, it is my opinion our attendance is purely optional. >>


Ah, I see. I interpreted it to mean that the US was being done a favor in an operation from which Canada wouldn't benefit...
 


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<< It reminds me when the US destroyed the Chinese consulate because of "intelligence" they had gotten, despite it being clearly declared as a consulate even in the local phonebook. >>


Wait...so if you were a spy in a foreign country, would you want your listing in the local phonebook to read "Eug Johnson, Spy"? >>

??? Well, maybe not, but I certainly wouldn't name it "US Embassy" either. Errr... this was the actual operating Chinese embassy in Belgrade, and I betcha any foreign affairs diplomat would have known that. I just mentioned the phone book thing to reemphasize that if somebody had been checking something as simple as the phone book, such a mistake could have been prevented. Here is the US's take on it (which I accept by the way).


<< Hey Eug, next time we feel like making light of a sad situation should we ask you first to see if you approve? >>

Making light is fine, but it'd be nice if people could be consistent at least. If someone said, "Hey, look at the bright side of 9/11: it got rid of so many irritating accountant types" s/he would have been skewered.
 
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someone is gonna be fried for this, and it's probably not the U.S. they'll find someway to blame it on the Canadians for being in the wrong place at the wrong time...
 


<< Making light is fine, but it'd be nice if people could be consistent at least. If someone said, "Hey, look at the bright side of 9/11: it got rid of so many irritating accountant types" s/he would have been skewered. >>

And rightfully so. That had to be one of the dumbest lines I've ever heard.
 


<< Interesting how an American soldier can break a fingernail and it's on the front page of CNN, yet 4 Canadian soldiers are killed by friendly fire and CNN has no mention of this.

shinerburke, you're nothing but garbage wrapped in skin, so keep your tasteless comments to yourself. >>



Well, it is an american news organization. I bet this was all over CBC's news.
 


<< They died serving their country and humanity

May God bless them. >>



Ditto. And let me go one further... i think President Bush should award those men honorary Purple Hearts and some award for gallantry... Army Distinguished Service Cross perhaps, or the Medal of Honor if he really wanted to make a potent political point. It would be a fitting tribute to those men.
 


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<< Making light is fine, but it'd be nice if people could be consistent at least. If someone said, "Hey, look at the bright side of 9/11: it got rid of so many irritating accountant types" s/he would have been skewered. >>

And rightfully so. That had to be one of the dumbest lines I've ever heard. >>




<< If they would have been French I would have questioned if it was actually an accident or a good shot. >>


Hmmm...
 


<< Backlash, you knew it was coming. >>



<< "With friends like the Americans, who needs enemies?" Ward Lynds, a Canadian living in China, wrote to CBC's Web site. >>

So many people are so ignorant about war it's shocking. I do believe that in every major military operation the US has killed its own troops in greater numbers from friendly fire than any other nation - look at the gulf war for instance. These things will always happen, and all things equal the US is more likely to kill Caandians than their own people (and vice versa) given that there is not such a practiced communication channel between the US and Canadian military as there would be through either side's military alone.
 


<< "With friends like the Americans, who needs enemies?" Ward Lynds, a Canadian living in China, wrote to CBC's Web site. >>


That's a really stupid comment.
 


<< Veterans and military experts were quick, however, to characterize the bombing as an inevitable consequence of war. >>

I think i'll listen to them before some panzy ass college student sucking down a mocha.
 


<< Backlash, you knew it was coming. >>



Indeed.

Hmmmmm....

If Canadians are expecting more of a reaction they will be disappointed.

American's are treating this incident with MORE sorrow and regret than when our OWN troops are killed by FF.
That said, we know it's a tragic, unfortunate accident but we move on.

If Canadians are THIS shocked that soldiers die in war (whether by FF or enemy) perhaps they should rethink having a military at all... or participating in conflicts.

American FF has killed more of it's own in this conflict so 'disregard for foreign troops' seems like a silly accusation.

I find the 'loose cannon, triggy happy American's' line laughable and disgusting.

FACT IS the U.S. military invaded a foreign state and removed a hostile goverment with RECORD LOW casualties when MASSIVE casualties were predicted.

This WAS a serious mistake. The incident of course should be investigated. However, to make anything more of it (I've even heard accusation of Americans TARGETING foriegn troops ffs) is assanine.
 
<< "With friends like the Americans, who needs enemies?" Ward Lynds, a Canadian living in China, wrote to CBC's Web site. >> As he continues to broadcast his daily Commie Propaganda Show "Dudely Do-right Sucks China Off""!
 


<< If Canadians are THIS shocked that soldiers die in war (whether by FF or enemy) perhaps they should rethink having a military at all... or participating in conflicts. >>

Don't worry it's just the tards. Nobody is happy about it and it's a gross mistake, but one has to draw the line and realize it as such.

<< American FF has killed more of it's own in this conflict so 'disregard for foreign troops' seems like a silly accusation. >>

Just what I was saying. Kind of undermines the argument of silly coffee-shop philosophers.
 
What a freak this ward lynds character is, his comments are completely ludicrous. I find it hard to believe that he is living in China.

The bashing has started, and where will it end? If Canada ever did get involved in a war the tone from lynds,and others would change 180 - The U.S. would be first in line volunteering to help them out.
 
It really is amazing how anger can cloud one's judgement. We saw it firsthand--and on a much larger scale--here in the US after 9/11, we see it continuously in the Middle East, and now we get a taste of it from our Canadian neighbors. Some of my favorite quotes:



<< many Canadians were quick to see it as an example of the U.S. military's indifference to foreign troops. >>



<< With friends like the Americans, who needs enemies? >>



<< It makes you wonder how competent the U.S. military is. >>



<< Sometimes I wonder why we're there >>



<< If this guy was some kind of slack-jawed half-wit behind the wheel of a F-16, we need to find that out. >>



<< I expect more condolences from President Bush than a simple phone call to Chr&eacute;tien apologizing for the mistake >>


Moronic statements such as these are completely understandable in this situation; I only hope that a few months from now they will look back and realize how stupid they sounded.
 
Pilot ignored orders: sources
'He bombed anyway' after being told twice not to: Canadian military 'not pointing fingers' but indicates U.S. knew of training exercise
 
Some rather insensitive and pathetic comments made here. :disgust:

Someone said "CNN is an american network, not Canadian".. What does that have anything to do with it. This is a major north american incident. When The US was attacked, all we saw on our channels was news about it. If canada gets screwed, the US shouldnt care?

The story isnt even on CNNs front page anymore.. seems somewhat typical.. stepping around mistakes.. "opps"

To anyone thinking of insensitive comments, remember who was there with complete support after the States were attacked, and who just lost men, helping the US.. Other then supporting USA, our Canadians really have no business over there.

Point taken, and edited.
 


<< This is a major international incident >>


Not really. It's a sad, sad mistake but not a major international incident. A major international incident is something like the Cuban Missle Crisis.
 
As and American and a human being I feel bad that our good friends, the Canadians, lost loved ones in this tragedy.
Not that I want to see anyone die or get hurt, but I would rather it had been US soldiers than Canadian.
I am thankful for our wonderful neighbors to the north.
 


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<< Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry >>


OMG!!! Is that seriously the unit's name? BWWWAAAAHHHHH!!!! >>

Gee, remind me to laugh the next time someone slips up and nail a couple of your country's troops. Asswipe. >>



I'm an american citizen and I offer my very sincere condolences. The death of our troops and our allies is no laughing matter. Not even slightly. I'm ashamed of my countrymen for laughing at your grief, I apologize for them and assure you it is not the attitude of most of us.
 
Thanks all for the consideration and yes I believe Shiner is sincere in his apology.
FF happens and yes its unfortunate as one of the ugly parts of war which pretty much all of it is. . .
The outrage is inevitable as are all the critics, probably what saddens most Canadians is how it happened.

The dead are home and boards of inquiries are already in motion, so I don't feel compelled to comment on a situation of which I don't have the information.
I'm a little late on the jump in as I've been away from the desk for a couple of days but suffice it to say around here anyway, support is still strong for the US effort and our participation in this campaign!
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I just read all the posts in this thread. Yes, I am Canadian. My father served 34 yrs in The Canadian Armed Forces, My brother in law served 20. One of these young soldiers that died was known to my brother in law, he instructed this soldier as he went through his basic training. I wont even comment on many of the disgusting posts that were made in this thread, doing so would not be benificial in any way. I have lost alot of respect for many people after sifting through this thread. I wish I didnt read it.
 
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