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Canadian Election 2011

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The internet is an idiot enabler.
I love reading the Star.

I get a kick out the lefty bias of the paper. The comments are the greatest. So much idiotic socialist nonsense spews forth, it just makes me laugh.

Don't get me wrong, some of my friends are lefties but I don't hold that against them. 😉

I am a centrist, but I have had enough of the left's hyperbole. Iggy really scares me and Jack is a fool. Harper isn't the greatest either, but at least I know what I will get from him.
 
I love reading the Star.

I get a kick out the lefty bias of the paper. The comments are the greatest. So much idiotic socialist nonsense spews forth, it just makes me laugh.

Don't get me wrong, some of my friends are lefties but I don't hold that against them. 😉

I am a centrist, but I have had enough of the left's hyperbole. Iggy really scares me and Jack is a fool. Harper isn't the greatest either, but at least I know what I will get from him.

Did you just call Harper a centrist? :awe:
 
I would like to see Harper explain how moving fund between portfolios without parliamentary approval is kosher. Border security initiative <> building up Tony Clement's riding.
 
I don't like Harper competant but mean
Ignatieff unlikeable and doesn't seem competant
I like like Jack 'still don't trust him he is a politiian' but couldn't go that far left anytime soon.
 
I don't like Harper competant but mean
Ignatieff unlikeable and doesn't seem competant
I like like Jack 'still don't trust him he is a politiian' but couldn't go that far left anytime soon.

Reality is we don't really have a viable option.
 
Reality is we don't really have a viable option.
I'm voting for iggy. I don't care if he looks like a troll.

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I am going to be extremely disappointed if the NDP and/or Liberals don't start spamming the airwaves with ads about Conservative's G8 spending.

Seriously, the Democrats and anyone left of the Conservatives in Canada are gimped when it comes to negative ads and pouncing on political goldmines.
 
I am going to be extremely disappointed if the NDP and/or Liberals don't start spamming the airwaves with ads about Conservative's G8 spending.

Seriously, the Democrats and anyone left of the Conservatives in Canada are gimped when it comes to negative ads and pouncing on political goldmines.

Fo sho. As long as political attack ads are completely true, it should all be fair game. As usual, they'll pussy out and not do it.
 
The won't spam because it wasn't an issue from the G&M

"Before long, what first appeared sensational became considerably less so. There are too many ambiguities around the Auditor-General&#8217;s investigation of last summer&#8217;s G8 and G20 expenses for the leak of a draft report to have much lasting impact. What initially caused the biggest stir &#8211; a mention of potential illegality &#8211; seemed to be debunked by the leak of subsequent drafts. And the real scandal may be the initial leak itself, more than the draft&#8217;s preliminary (and subsequently revised) findings."

As far as the attack ads go, they exist because they work unfortunatly, change the electorate response to these ads and they would go away. . .
 
The won't spam because it wasn't an issue from the G&M

"Before long, what first appeared sensational became considerably less so. There are too many ambiguities around the Auditor-General’s investigation of last summer’s G8 and G20 expenses for the leak of a draft report to have much lasting impact. What initially caused the biggest stir – a mention of potential illegality – seemed to be debunked by the leak of subsequent drafts. And the real scandal may be the initial leak itself, more than the draft’s preliminary (and subsequently revised) findings."

As far as the attack ads go, they exist because they work unfortunatly, change the electorate response to these ads and they would go away. . .

I remember the Swiftboat ads from way back when before I gave a shit. Who cares if they're lies?

Now all this "he didn't come back for you" (If it were true, who gives a shit? He's a citizen.) fear mongering before the election officially began from Harper. I want to see the NDP and Liberals get right down and dirty with anything available. One side certainly doesn't mind doing it. *uck the "moral highground" if it means winning.
 
Did you just call Harper a centrist? :awe:

He is, and the Conservatives have been moving more to the centre in recent years. Compared to the GOP, the Conservatives are downright liberal.

Harper makes a lot of stupid errors that get him into trouble. Still, I think Canada has been far better off. We weathered the recession better than most countries. Plus Canada has a much higher standing in the world than under the previous government. He's one of the few leaders to continually speak against rights abuses in the People's Republic of China. Afghanistan has been a huge boon to us on the international stage as well. When the Liberals sent them in, they didn't even have the proper equipment.

Iggy on the other hand is a typical tax and spend liberal. Us in Ontario have weathered eight years under the worst premier in resent memory. Statistically, not just my opinion. His brother is one of Iggy's right hand men. They're both painted with the same brush. It worries me that they would even entertain the possibility of allying with the Bloc. The Liberals support a weak, wishy washy foreign policy and an elitist, anti-libertarian domestic policy. Canadians like them because they tell them what to do without rocking the boat. They've always been a fair weather party.

The NDP is far to extreme on the political scale for most Canadians. Jack Layton also isn't well. In the last year he's had a hip replacement and treatment for cancer. He looks ill and would be well advised to step down as leader. As for their platform, there's not a lot of meat to it.

Both the Liberals and NDP have very costly platforms. The country cannot afford them. Not now, not in the foreseeable future. Everyone knows tax revenues are forecast to drop as the boomers retire. Instituting multi-billion dollar programs that only benefit a minority of people is downright foolish and irresponsible. That's what got Portugal, Ireland, and Greece into so much trouble. Spending now means serious austerity measures later. Maintaining the status quo is at least somewhat sustainable.

The Bloc can kiss my hairy arse. Bunch of traitors only there to extort money, money the province of Quebec is swimming in. I'm tired of having my tax dollars going to support those ingrates. However, they hold the balance of power in parliament right now. They're guaranteed Quebec, which holds a large number of seats. They have zero interest in the welfare of the country as a whole. For them to wield so much power should be of great concern for all Canadians. It's like electing Benedict Arnold as president of the United States!
 
He is, and the Conservatives have been moving more to the centre in recent years. Compared to the GOP, the Conservatives are downright liberal.

Harper makes a lot of stupid errors that get him into trouble. Still, I think Canada has been far better off. We weathered the recession better than most countries. Plus Canada has a much higher standing in the world than under the previous government. He's one of the few leaders to continually speak against rights abuses in the People's Republic of China. Afghanistan has been a huge boon to us on the international stage as well. When the Liberals sent them in, they didn't even have the proper equipment.

Iggy on the other hand is a typical tax and spend liberal. Us in Ontario have weathered eight years under the worst premier in resent memory. Statistically, not just my opinion. His brother is one of Iggy's right hand men. They're both painted with the same brush. It worries me that they would even entertain the possibility of allying with the Bloc. The Liberals support a weak, wishy washy foreign policy and an elitist, anti-libertarian domestic policy. Canadians like them because they tell them what to do without rocking the boat. They've always been a fair weather party.

The NDP is far to extreme on the political scale for most Canadians. Jack Layton also isn't well. In the last year he's had a hip replacement and treatment for cancer. He looks ill and would be well advised to step down as leader. As for their platform, there's not a lot of meat to it.

Both the Liberals and NDP have very costly platforms. The country cannot afford them. Not now, not in the foreseeable future. Everyone knows tax revenues are forecast to drop as the boomers retire. Instituting multi-billion dollar programs that only benefit a minority of people is downright foolish and irresponsible. That's what got Portugal, Ireland, and Greece into so much trouble. Spending now means serious austerity measures later. Maintaining the status quo is at least somewhat sustainable.

The Bloc can kiss my hairy arse. Bunch of traitors only there to extort money, money the province of Quebec is swimming in. I'm tired of having my tax dollars going to support those ingrates. However, they hold the balance of power in parliament right now. They're guaranteed Quebec, which holds a large number of seats. They have zero interest in the welfare of the country as a whole. For them to wield so much power should be of great concern for all Canadians. It's like electing Benedict Arnold as president of the United States!

lulz, none of their "budget" would pass audit.
 
You know, I'm watching the leader's debate and just realized that Ignatieff is a dead man walking if he keeps up these lines of attack.

The point he's constantly repeating about Canadians needing to rebuild our democracy isn't going to hit home with many - nobody feels that democracy is at risk, or cares about KAIROS losing funding. Instead, people are going to vote the safe known choice back into office because they know their handling of the economy has at least been "decent".

This is all such a colossal waste of time and money.
 
He is, and the Conservatives have been moving more to the centre in recent years. Compared to the GOP, the Conservatives are downright liberal.

Harper makes a lot of stupid errors that get him into trouble. Still, I think Canada has been far better off. We weathered the recession better than most countries. Plus Canada has a much higher standing in the world than under the previous government. He's one of the few leaders to continually speak against rights abuses in the People's Republic of China. Afghanistan has been a huge boon to us on the international stage as well. When the Liberals sent them in, they didn't even have the proper equipment.

Iggy on the other hand is a typical tax and spend liberal. Us in Ontario have weathered eight years under the worst premier in resent memory. Statistically, not just my opinion. His brother is one of Iggy's right hand men. They're both painted with the same brush. It worries me that they would even entertain the possibility of allying with the Bloc. The Liberals support a weak, wishy washy foreign policy and an elitist, anti-libertarian domestic policy. Canadians like them because they tell them what to do without rocking the boat. They've always been a fair weather party.

The NDP is far to extreme on the political scale for most Canadians. Jack Layton also isn't well. In the last year he's had a hip replacement and treatment for cancer. He looks ill and would be well advised to step down as leader. As for their platform, there's not a lot of meat to it.

Both the Liberals and NDP have very costly platforms. The country cannot afford them. Not now, not in the foreseeable future. Everyone knows tax revenues are forecast to drop as the boomers retire. Instituting multi-billion dollar programs that only benefit a minority of people is downright foolish and irresponsible. That's what got Portugal, Ireland, and Greece into so much trouble. Spending now means serious austerity measures later. Maintaining the status quo is at least somewhat sustainable.

The Bloc can kiss my hairy arse. Bunch of traitors only there to extort money, money the province of Quebec is swimming in. I'm tired of having my tax dollars going to support those ingrates. However, they hold the balance of power in parliament right now. They're guaranteed Quebec, which holds a large number of seats. They have zero interest in the welfare of the country as a whole. For them to wield so much power should be of great concern for all Canadians. It's like electing Benedict Arnold as president of the United States!
Harper has not thing to do with Canada economic. Canada weathered the recession well is due to the extremely high Asian demand for mineral/natural resources (potash, metal, oil, etc...)

In the same breath you can say that Australian Prime Ministers does a better job than Harper, because Australia economy is at it strongest ever and this is during the current recession (if mineral demand has nothing to do with economy.)

How many loopholes has Harper pulled to make Canada an illegitimate junta in the world stage since he has been in power?

IMHO, the present Canadian politic is a dog and pony show, and all politicians are there for the gravy train.
 
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How many loopholes has Harper pulled to make Canada an illegitimate junta in the world stage since he has been in power?

Why make statements like that? Nobody actually believes it - it's hyperbole only a partisan would say in the hopes that it catches on and gets repeated enough times to begin to sound like the truth.

sigh, iggy is done as leader.

I agree. I hope he stays on as a MP, because he sounds like a pretty stand up guy.
 
Harper is a pretty typical conservative - everyone can have everything! Low Taxes! Ferrari Jets! More more money for healthcare! yaaaaay!
 
He is, and the Conservatives have been moving more to the centre in recent years. Compared to the GOP, the Conservatives are downright liberal.

Harper makes a lot of stupid errors that get him into trouble. Still, I think Canada has been far better off. We weathered the recession better than most countries. Plus Canada has a much higher standing in the world than under the previous government. He's one of the few leaders to continually speak against rights abuses in the People's Republic of China. Afghanistan has been a huge boon to us on the international stage as well. When the Liberals sent them in, they didn't even have the proper equipment.

I don't understand people who think that different parties in power actually makes a statistically significant impact on the economy. It wouldn't matter if we had Harper in power during the recession or Dion, or even Bonhomme Carnaval. The economic growth and job losses would have been the same.

People don't realize the Liberals and Conservatives are +/- 2% in their spending plans. People also don't realize that the government actually has relatively little impact on the economy in Canada (unless they suddenly change government spending/taxes by like 20%).
 
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