Number1
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maybe the conservatives did hire a bunch of people to post comments
This looks like something a liberal would post to discredit or try to discredit the cons. Politic as usual.
sdifox
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Apparently same day a liberal version was posted. I am just linking it for the lulz.
The phone calls made "on behalf" of Joe Volpe does stink though.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/04/15/cv-election-volpe-harassment.html
Imp
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- Feb 8, 2000
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Meh, let's not pretend any of the parties are actually any better than anyone else. They're all politicians, they (have to) lie, cheat and steal to keep their jobs.
The only reason I won't vote for Harper is because he's lower taxes and spend, non-fiscal conservative. All the bs he's pulled in the past couple years doesn't bother me THAT much.
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
Vintage pics of the leaders. See when Stephen "Call me Steve" Harper was sporting the Bieber cut and Iggy looked like a PCCML!
www.vintagevoter.ca/
www.vintagevoter.ca/
sandorski
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hehe, May was kind of a cutie pie without her glasses and with angles. Duceppe and Layton look nothing like they do now.
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
Harper was 'approachable, easy-going' when he was Steve. My how things have changed. Try approaching him now. As for easy-going, that train has long passed. Forget trains, now it's my way or the highway! 
OMG
Jack is like Bourne in his ability to completely disguise his former self. . .
No wonder Duceppe is so bitter, he wasn't getting any
Jack is like Bourne in his ability to completely disguise his former self. . .
No wonder Duceppe is so bitter, he wasn't getting any
Has anyone been watching our own little Fox News North? I've been watching Ezra Levant's show for the last 40 minutes. It's quite lame and jammed-packed full of lies and half-truths (or "straight talk" as they call it) so I'm sure they'll do well.
sdifox
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ah nothing like pissing off a renowned writer with plenty of time in her hand.
Please do post other views here. I am doing it for the lulz.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/election-2011-a-dark-fiction/article1991748/
I am a fiction writer. So here’s a fiction.
A vacuum cleaner salesman comes to your door. “You must buy this vacuum cleaner,” he says. “Why?” you say. “Because I know what’s good for you,” he says. “I know things you don’t know.” “What are they?” you say. “I can’t tell you,” he says, “because they’re secret. You are required to trust me. The vacuum cleaner will create jobs.”
“Where is the vacuum cleaner made?” you say. “In another country,” he says. “So the jobs will be created in another country? Not here?” you say. You believe it’s your right to query: It’s your money and, come to think of it, you pay this guy’s salary.
“Stop bickering,” he says. “I am competent. That’s my story and I’m sticking it to you.” “I’m not bickering,” you say. “I’m asking relevant questions. How much will the vacuum cleaner cost me?” “I can’t tell you that,” he says. “Why not? Because it’s more than you claimed at first?” you say. “Or because you don’t really know the cost?” “I can’t tell you that, either,” he says. “But you have to pay.”
“Just a minute!” you say. “You want me to commit to an unknown, very large sum? That’s not fair! And it’s not competent, either.” “More bickering!” he says. “We need stability!” “But I might have to go on paying huge sums for decades!” you say. “We’re already up to our necks in debt! I’ll have to give up other things – I won’t be able to pay for the doctor, or support for special needs, or drinking water, or care for the elderly, or the kids’ education, or … and what happens if there’s a pandemic, or a natural catastrophe such as an earthquake, and you’ve already spent the money that could have helped in a disaster?”
“You are a very negative person,” he says. “You are not welcome here.” “Where is here?” you say. “In my country,” he says. “These are my mountains, this is my hockey, this is my flag. Mine! All mine! And I’m stamping my image on all of it!” “I like those icons, too,” you say, “but I think they should be shared with everyone, don’t you?” “What is this ‘shared’ of which you speak?” he says. “I believe in the individual and nothing but. Talk to the hand! Weak to the wall!”
“I don’t want to pay for the vacuum cleaner,” you say. “You have to pay for it,” he says. “See, it says here on this document. Isn’t this your signature?” “Yes,” you say, “but the document’s been changed to mean the exact opposite of what I signed. If I altered a document like that, I’d end up in jail.” “You are double-plus not welcome,” he says. “I make the rules around here.”
“But –” you say. “Don’t interrupt,” he says. “In addition to the vacuum cleaner, you will have to pay for several very expensive jails, the cost of which is unknown.”
“But the crime rate is falling!” you say. “Not for long,” he says. “I’m planning to have it rise again. Once people have their money vacuumed away, with none left for doctors, or the kids’ education, or making sure you don’t eat poisoned food – all those frills – they’ll get scared and depressed and desperate, the middle class will be toast, and the crime rate will rise. Anyway, I will criminalize lots more things. Because we need to fill up those jails!”
“I get the feeling you don’t like me,” you say. “Is it because I’m a girl? Or because I don’t want you to run up huge debts without telling me what the money is for? What happened to accountability? It used to sound so great!”
“You are beneath my notice,” he says, giving me the Death Glare. “Once I really get the whip hand, I will never have to answer another question from anyone. Not one question. Not ever again.”
***
“That’s a very dark fiction,” says the reader. “Surely people won’t sign away their right to know how their money is being spent! That would result in tyranny! It can’t happen here!”
“Anything can happen anywhere,” I say.
Margaret Atwood’s latest non-fiction book is Payback: Debt and the Shadow Side of Wealth.
Please do post other views here. I am doing it for the lulz.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/election-2011-a-dark-fiction/article1991748/
I am a fiction writer. So here’s a fiction.
A vacuum cleaner salesman comes to your door. “You must buy this vacuum cleaner,” he says. “Why?” you say. “Because I know what’s good for you,” he says. “I know things you don’t know.” “What are they?” you say. “I can’t tell you,” he says, “because they’re secret. You are required to trust me. The vacuum cleaner will create jobs.”
“Where is the vacuum cleaner made?” you say. “In another country,” he says. “So the jobs will be created in another country? Not here?” you say. You believe it’s your right to query: It’s your money and, come to think of it, you pay this guy’s salary.
“Stop bickering,” he says. “I am competent. That’s my story and I’m sticking it to you.” “I’m not bickering,” you say. “I’m asking relevant questions. How much will the vacuum cleaner cost me?” “I can’t tell you that,” he says. “Why not? Because it’s more than you claimed at first?” you say. “Or because you don’t really know the cost?” “I can’t tell you that, either,” he says. “But you have to pay.”
“Just a minute!” you say. “You want me to commit to an unknown, very large sum? That’s not fair! And it’s not competent, either.” “More bickering!” he says. “We need stability!” “But I might have to go on paying huge sums for decades!” you say. “We’re already up to our necks in debt! I’ll have to give up other things – I won’t be able to pay for the doctor, or support for special needs, or drinking water, or care for the elderly, or the kids’ education, or … and what happens if there’s a pandemic, or a natural catastrophe such as an earthquake, and you’ve already spent the money that could have helped in a disaster?”
“You are a very negative person,” he says. “You are not welcome here.” “Where is here?” you say. “In my country,” he says. “These are my mountains, this is my hockey, this is my flag. Mine! All mine! And I’m stamping my image on all of it!” “I like those icons, too,” you say, “but I think they should be shared with everyone, don’t you?” “What is this ‘shared’ of which you speak?” he says. “I believe in the individual and nothing but. Talk to the hand! Weak to the wall!”
“I don’t want to pay for the vacuum cleaner,” you say. “You have to pay for it,” he says. “See, it says here on this document. Isn’t this your signature?” “Yes,” you say, “but the document’s been changed to mean the exact opposite of what I signed. If I altered a document like that, I’d end up in jail.” “You are double-plus not welcome,” he says. “I make the rules around here.”
“But –” you say. “Don’t interrupt,” he says. “In addition to the vacuum cleaner, you will have to pay for several very expensive jails, the cost of which is unknown.”
“But the crime rate is falling!” you say. “Not for long,” he says. “I’m planning to have it rise again. Once people have their money vacuumed away, with none left for doctors, or the kids’ education, or making sure you don’t eat poisoned food – all those frills – they’ll get scared and depressed and desperate, the middle class will be toast, and the crime rate will rise. Anyway, I will criminalize lots more things. Because we need to fill up those jails!”
“I get the feeling you don’t like me,” you say. “Is it because I’m a girl? Or because I don’t want you to run up huge debts without telling me what the money is for? What happened to accountability? It used to sound so great!”
“You are beneath my notice,” he says, giving me the Death Glare. “Once I really get the whip hand, I will never have to answer another question from anyone. Not one question. Not ever again.”
***
“That’s a very dark fiction,” says the reader. “Surely people won’t sign away their right to know how their money is being spent! That would result in tyranny! It can’t happen here!”
“Anything can happen anywhere,” I say.
Margaret Atwood’s latest non-fiction book is Payback: Debt and the Shadow Side of Wealth.
This seems to be a common liberal platform. The following people were absolutely terrible when it came to explaining why they would make a good leader or why they should get your vote:
-John Kerry
-Stephane Dion
-Michael Ignatieff
I was watching some thing last night on CBC where Ignatieff was interviewed 1 on 1, not a debate or anything. His answer to damn near everything was that you shouldn't trust Harper. That tells us absolutely nothing about why we should trust Ignatieff. Now the conservatives are 99% likely to win and it's because the opposition is retarded.
sdifox
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sdifox
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I don't know if they're attacking his politics or implying that his penis is defective because he's a somewhat unemotional robot.
The handshaking cartoon was a very real photo op where outisde his house he gives his kid s a moning handshake instead of a hug as they head out for the day.
Played into perfectly of showing Harper cold, even to his own family, overblown obviously but images are worth 1000 words
Played into perfectly of showing Harper cold, even to his own family, overblown obviously but images are worth 1000 words
Why most of you guys are busy trying to show how much Harper sucks, the rest of the country is awakening to find the NDP ahead of the Liberals in 2 seperate polls and even ahead of the BQ in Quebec.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/d...als+into+second+place+Poll/4657970/story.html
Depending on which poll you follow, one has the Conservatives at 34%, with NDP and Liberal tied at 24%, another has the Conservatives at 43% and NDP 24% versus Liberal 21%
The main problem is that the Liberals have shifted more and more towards the left since in the past decade starting the decline since Martin took over (the Chretien government for all its fault was actually fairly fiscally conservative and paid down the debt quite a bit). All this talk in recent years of carbon tax and coalition government has destroyed the Liberals in the eyes of centrist Canada. Not to mention the Liberals have had incredibly weak leaders. Dion? Ignatieff? Bob Ray? Trudeau's son? I hate Layton and how two faced he is and would never ever vote NDP, but he is quite a strong leader and politician. I think Layton is running the strongest campaign by going directly after Ignatieff rather then Harper. People who won't vote NDP he will never get, but people who won't vote Conservative he has a great shot at wooing in, which he is doing.
The Liberals are in shambles, and simply don't get that shifting further to the left is hurting them much more then helping. The Liberals are in strong danger of becoming an irrelevant 3rd party. The best part of this is that while the left is trying to push ABC (anything but conservative), it may actually give the Conservatives their much fantasized majority.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/d...als+into+second+place+Poll/4657970/story.html
Depending on which poll you follow, one has the Conservatives at 34%, with NDP and Liberal tied at 24%, another has the Conservatives at 43% and NDP 24% versus Liberal 21%
The main problem is that the Liberals have shifted more and more towards the left since in the past decade starting the decline since Martin took over (the Chretien government for all its fault was actually fairly fiscally conservative and paid down the debt quite a bit). All this talk in recent years of carbon tax and coalition government has destroyed the Liberals in the eyes of centrist Canada. Not to mention the Liberals have had incredibly weak leaders. Dion? Ignatieff? Bob Ray? Trudeau's son? I hate Layton and how two faced he is and would never ever vote NDP, but he is quite a strong leader and politician. I think Layton is running the strongest campaign by going directly after Ignatieff rather then Harper. People who won't vote NDP he will never get, but people who won't vote Conservative he has a great shot at wooing in, which he is doing.
The Liberals are in shambles, and simply don't get that shifting further to the left is hurting them much more then helping. The Liberals are in strong danger of becoming an irrelevant 3rd party. The best part of this is that while the left is trying to push ABC (anything but conservative), it may actually give the Conservatives their much fantasized majority.
Putting it in perspective, Layton has gone from 13 seats and 8.5% percent support in the 2004 election (in which Liberals won with 40.9% and 172 seats), to 17.5% and 29 seats in 2008 (Liberals down to 103 seats and 30.2% under Dion).
Now he is poised to gain much more and at 24% the NDP is now above the Liberals. The Liberals simply don't get it.
Now he is poised to gain much more and at 24% the NDP is now above the Liberals. The Liberals simply don't get it.
Things are such a mess right now in Canadian politics.
Did you guys watch the debates? Harper was staring at the camera instead of his rivals...it was very odd. Then later in the debate we had Ignatief stuttering, looking uncomfortable, and seeming weak and untrustworthy.
Layton completely won the debate IMO. My concern is whether or not I can live with what he would do to the country economically. If you look at what Obama has done from the left in the US, it scares me.
I thought I was a decided "green" voter, but at this point I honestly don't know what to do. I know for certain I will not be voting liberal or conservative. My issue is that the alternatives look better from a theoretical idealistic standpoint, but that may not carry through in practice.
Did you guys watch the debates? Harper was staring at the camera instead of his rivals...it was very odd. Then later in the debate we had Ignatief stuttering, looking uncomfortable, and seeming weak and untrustworthy.
Layton completely won the debate IMO. My concern is whether or not I can live with what he would do to the country economically. If you look at what Obama has done from the left in the US, it scares me.
I thought I was a decided "green" voter, but at this point I honestly don't know what to do. I know for certain I will not be voting liberal or conservative. My issue is that the alternatives look better from a theoretical idealistic standpoint, but that may not carry through in practice.
sandorski
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double post for emphasis
This thread does not need to be derailed, thanks mr random uppercase guy.
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