Canada's marijuana laws prompt American...threats?

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

Actually it's the government's job to build and maintain a strong national defence and our roadways, anything else they do is subject to what the majority of us want !

So, if the majority want Jim Crow laws back?

I highly doubt that would ever happen but anything is possible.When the Govrnment sets itself up as our babysitter on any issue without a mandate from the voting booth we're all in trouble.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

But see, that's just the thing. It isn't harmful to society. What leads you to believe that it is? It has to be the American propaganda on drugs, because the countries in which it is legal have shown us that it isn't a problem.

Alcohol is far more "harmful to society" than cannabis. I mean, geez. All you have to do is go hangout around a bar to figure that out. You think it would be the same as hanging out around a coffee shop in The Netherlands? :Q I don't think so. 🙂

I guess it's a pretty futile battle, though. We all know we'll never change Nik's views, and there's nothing wrong with that. We don't need to critisize him, although we can certainly engage in intelligent arguement.

Since you seem so against smoking it, what about eating it? I believe there are alcoholic beverages with cannabis in them. Would you try that? I'm just curious.. Trying to figure out your whole view on it. I know it has to be more than just "It's against the law".. What has influenced you to believe that cannabis can even be said in the same sentance as rape and murder? Again, I am not flaming you.. just trying to figure it out. 🙂

You call my words propaganda. I call pothead's words propaganda.

Until I see hardcore unbiassed scientific laboratory PROOF that pot doesn't change your state of mind, doesn't have short term or long term negative effects on health, that it doesn't hurt people around the smoker, and that it doesn't doesn't effect in any negative way any person around it at any time whatsoever, I will continue to hold my anti-marajuana views. And you will probably continue to hold yours, along with everyone else's.

Agreed?

nik

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: SSP

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

Good God man! Where did you study Law???

I have to study law in order to have an opinion on it?

nik

 

[Tab]

I couldn't agree more! I do belive that crank, speed, etc should remain illegal. Why? Because they do kill, some times when you first try it you end up dead. Beer,Vodka,Wine is more deadly than pot, its more addicitve and more deadly. Smoking Ciggars isnt illegal and its ALOT more deadly than pot. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be legalized. If it is, why doesnt the goverment slap a big tax on it? Yes, I do smoke pot. I am violent? Yes, while I am stoned? Never, I am for sure 100% more violent if I am not.

 

[crazygal]

while it's true, pot smokers won't hurt me unless they're driving or something but that's true for all drugs like crack and acid. The world doesn't need people smoking and driving.....and there's no doubt that that would happen if it's legalized

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

But see, that's just the thing. It isn't harmful to society. What leads you to believe that it is? It has to be the American propaganda on drugs, because the countries in which it is legal have shown us that it isn't a problem.

Alcohol is far more "harmful to society" than cannabis. I mean, geez. All you have to do is go hangout around a bar to figure that out. You think it would be the same as hanging out around a coffee shop in The Netherlands? :Q I don't think so. 🙂

I guess it's a pretty futile battle, though. We all know we'll never change Nik's views, and there's nothing wrong with that. We don't need to critisize him, although we can certainly engage in intelligent arguement.

Since you seem so against smoking it, what about eating it? I believe there are alcoholic beverages with cannabis in them. Would you try that? I'm just curious.. Trying to figure out your whole view on it. I know it has to be more than just "It's against the law".. What has influenced you to believe that cannabis can even be said in the same sentance as rape and murder? Again, I am not flaming you.. just trying to figure it out. 🙂

You call my words propaganda. I call pothead's words propaganda.

Until I see hardcore unbiassed scientific laboratory PROOF that pot doesn't change your state of mind, doesn't have short term or long term negative effects on health, that it doesn't hurt people around the smoker, and that it doesn't doesn't effect in any negative way any person around it at any time whatsoever, I will continue to hold my anti-marajuana views. And you will probably continue to hold yours, along with everyone else's.

Agreed?

nik

1. It changes your state of mind, but so does alcohol
2. It may have short and long term effects, but so does tobacco
3. Tobacco hurts people around the smoker
4. Tobacco affects pepole around you.

Say what you will, but your view reeks of hypocrisy.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

But see, that's just the thing. It isn't harmful to society. What leads you to believe that it is? It has to be the American propaganda on drugs, because the countries in which it is legal have shown us that it isn't a problem.

Alcohol is far more "harmful to society" than cannabis. I mean, geez. All you have to do is go hangout around a bar to figure that out. You think it would be the same as hanging out around a coffee shop in The Netherlands? :Q I don't think so. 🙂

I guess it's a pretty futile battle, though. We all know we'll never change Nik's views, and there's nothing wrong with that. We don't need to critisize him, although we can certainly engage in intelligent arguement.

Since you seem so against smoking it, what about eating it? I believe there are alcoholic beverages with cannabis in them. Would you try that? I'm just curious.. Trying to figure out your whole view on it. I know it has to be more than just "It's against the law".. What has influenced you to believe that cannabis can even be said in the same sentance as rape and murder? Again, I am not flaming you.. just trying to figure it out. 🙂

You call my words propaganda. I call pothead's words propaganda.

Until I see hardcore unbiassed scientific laboratory PROOF that pot doesn't change your state of mind, doesn't have short term or long term negative effects on health, that it doesn't hurt people around the smoker, and that it doesn't doesn't effect in any negative way any person around it at any time whatsoever, I will continue to hold my anti-marajuana views. And you will probably continue to hold yours, along with everyone else's.

Agreed?

nik

1. It changes your state of mind, but so does alcohol
2. It may have short and long term effects, but so does tobacco
3. Tobacco hurts people around the smoker
4. Tobacco affects pepole around you.

Say what you will, but your view reeks of hypocrisy.

1) I already know about alcohol; I'm not asking about it. Just because alcohol might be worse doesn't make pot okay
2) I already know about tobacco; I'm not asking about it. Just because tobacco might be worse doesn't make pot okay
3) I already know about tobacco; I'm not asking about it. Just because tobacco might be worse doesn't make pot okay
4) I already know about tobacco; I'm not asking about it. Just because tobacco might be worse doesn't make pot okay

nik

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

1) I already know about alcohol; I'm not asking about it. Just because alcohol might be worse doesn't make pot okay
2) I already know about tobacco; I'm not asking about it. Just because tobacco might be worse doesn't make pot okay
3) I already know about tobacco; I'm not asking about it. Just because tobacco might be worse doesn't make pot okay
4) I already know about tobacco; I'm not asking about it. Just because tobacco might be worse doesn't make pot okay

nik

Yes, it does make it ok.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

You're a fscking commie and you don't even realize it.

 

[kamiam]

nik, you truelly are a piece of work😕...you just will never give up even when the facts are hammered in on your pointed little head

HERE'S THE TRUTH FROM A Ph.D
and if you prefer a more scientific approach...of course, nikky, baby, I don't expect you to tax the little amount of resouces your brain has in reading these documents...everything was burnt out WHEN YOUR SCHOOL BRAINWASHED YOU:frown:

P.S. sorry I'm late to the party...guess I missed out on most of the fun-n-flames😉

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Not reading your post, Kamiam. You're too busy being a dick for me to bother with you.

nik

 

[kamiam]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Not reading your post, Kamiam. You're too busy being a dick for me to bother with you.

nik

thats about just what I expected from an OSTRICH like you

 

[zzzz]

We all know how succesful the commie states are/were in banning religion.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: kamiam

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Not reading your post, Kamiam. You're too busy being a dick for me to bother with you.

nik

thats about just what I expected from an OSTRICH like you

You see, when you pot-supporters start talking like this, it only hurts your image and your case. So far, all I have seen are a bunch of pot supporters making fun of somebody who's anti-pot. I don't care how stupid you think his opinions are, they are his opinions. I share some of them, and not others. When you sit here and try to force your ideas on each other, it doesn't work. You are not going to change each others opinions... that's the simple truth. Instead of sitting here yelling at each other, why don't you look around for some studies and reports that support your side, then discuss them in a logical and controlled manner. Maybe if you did that instead of bitching like a bunch 8th graders, you would change some peoples' minds. This goes for both sides of the argument.

 

[kamiam]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: kamiam

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Not reading your post, Kamiam. You're too busy being a dick for me to bother with you.

nik

thats about just what I expected from an OSTRICH like you

You see, when you pot-supporters start talking like this, it only hurts your image and your case. So far, all I have seen are a bunch of pot supporters making fun of somebody who's anti-pot. I don't care how stupid you think his opinions are, they are his opinions. I share some of them, and not others. When you sit here and try to force your ideas on each other, it doesn't work. You are not going to change each others opinions... that's the simple truth. Instead of sitting here yelling at each other, why don't you look around for some studies and reports that support your side, then discuss them in a logical and controlled manner. Maybe if you did that instead of bitching like a bunch 8th graders, you would change some peoples' minds. This goes for both sides of the argument.

why don't your ILK take your head out of the sand and READ some of the links instead of just blindly spreading your babble

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Designer drugs like prozac, paxil, anything else in the SSRI family (oh but they're not DRUGS drugs because they're prescribed by the nice man in the white lab coat, right?) represent a real danger, a real cultural sickness. That's your SOMA right there.

Anyone who's ever tried marijuana knows what it does. FFMCobalt has some serious insecurity issues, leave him alone.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: kamiam

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: kamiam

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Not reading your post, Kamiam. You're too busy being a dick for me to bother with you.

nik

thats about just what I expected from an OSTRICH like you

You see, when you pot-supporters start talking like this, it only hurts your image and your case. So far, all I have seen are a bunch of pot supporters making fun of somebody who's anti-pot. I don't care how stupid you think his opinions are, they are his opinions. I share some of them, and not others. When you sit here and try to force your ideas on each other, it doesn't work. You are not going to change each others opinions... that's the simple truth. Instead of sitting here yelling at each other, why don't you look around for some studies and reports that support your side, then discuss them in a logical and controlled manner. Maybe if you did that instead of bitching like a bunch 8th graders, you would change some peoples' minds. This goes for both sides of the argument.

why don't your ILK take your head out of the sand and READ some of the links instead of just blindly spreading your babble

There we go again. Good old Kamiam with his UNNECESSARY bolding of random WORDS. Why don't you f&cking read what I said, instead of doing exactly what I said not to do. I would read your link, except for the fact that I have absolutely no respect for your input, due to your uncanny lack of maturity. Maybe if you would make a post that included a well founded scientific study, and NOT insult another person in the same post, just maybe I would listen to you. Until then, you can sit in the time out corner until you grow up.

(20-1 odds that the reply to this post has at least 3 random words bolded, and has at least 2 personal insults)

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Careful, Kamiam might start harrassing you via PM...

nik

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Remember, the Canadian Senate, a body that is appointed by the Prime Minister, not elected (ie. codgy white Canadian good ol' boys) conducted a year long (or was it more) study (how much $$ do you think that cost) into marijuana, and unanimously decided for, not decriminalization, but all out legalization.

Meanwhile, a handful of people who have never tried it, and who are likely that one kid every highschool had who insisted that he never slaps his salami, seem to think they know better. Well, what are you gonna do....

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Remember, the Canadian Senate, a body that is appointed by the Prime Minister, not elected (ie. codgy white Canadian good ol' boys) conducted a year long (or was it more) study (how much $$ do you think that cost) into marijuana, and unanimously decided for, not decriminalization, but all out legalization.

Meanwhile, a handful of people who have never tried it, and who are likely that one kid every highschool had who insisted that he never slaps his salami, seem to think they know better. Well, what are you gonna do....

So you think the only people who should be conducting research into the effects of marijuana are people who use it? Yeah, I think those results would be much more accurate.

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SSP

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: BD2003
Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.

The reality of it is that nobody needs pot. Nobody needs alcohol. Nobody needs any of it. 🙂

nik

We don't need lots of things....should the government ban anything we don't need?

If it's harmful to society, why not? It is the government's job to protect society from itself.

nik

Good God man! Where did you study Law???

I have to study law in order to have an opinion on it?

nik

not study it per se, but have a much broader scope of the topic involved. It simply lends more credence to one's argument if you can support with proofs/facts etc.

That being said, I don't agree with your views, but on the topic as a whole, I couldn't care less what they do. If they're smart (no Not SMRT) they'll tax it like cigarettes, but not nearly as high, as it would just make everyone go underground for their doobies. Sell it like a commodity, tax it like a commodity, and reap the windfall.... Why do you think they conducted the study in the first place... More then likely to figure out exactly how much they can charge per blunt..

 

[PistachioByAzul]

So you think the only people who should be conducting research into the effects of marijuana are people who use it?

Read the post. The codgy old white guys decided it should be legalized. There is absolutely no basis for marijuana being illegal, that flaming reality slapped them in the face when they actually conducted a legitimate nationwide study.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

And by the way, I would point out that most cigarette smokers, junkies, and hard alcoholics will be the first to tell you how evil their respective vice is. They can't really convince themselves of that though, such is the nature of addiction, if you've ever experienced it. So where are the recovering bud smokers warning of the dangers of marijuana?

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
So you think the only people who should be conducting research into the effects of marijuana are people who use it?

Read the post. The codgy old white guys decided it should be legalized. There is absolutely no basis for marijuana being illegal, that flaming reality slapped them in the face when they actually conducted a legitimate nationwide study.

Meanwhile, a handful of people who have never tried it, and who are likely that one kid every highschool had who insisted that he never slaps his salami, seem to think they know better

I would think that somebody without a personal bias would know better. However, when you are referring to these people, are you referring to the researchers or the law makers? Now that I read it again, it sounds like you are referring to the law makers... in which case I agree with you.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

You are biased if you have no personal experience. How hard is it to smoke one joint?