Canada's marijuana laws prompt American...threats?

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: MustaphaMond

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: MustaphaMond
Heh. I'm not a Mormon, but I don't drink caffeine and drink alcohol rarely.

I hope you like living in your artificial reality

I don't drink for the stimulation, but b/c I like a nice wine with my steak or seafood.

But the stimulation is still there, thus, your artificial reality

thats like saying I smoke crack for the taste

One drinks wine for the taste, right?

but there is still the chemical stimulation

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: MustaphaMond

I agree that Brave New World was a rather alarming book, especialy considering the huge increase of aderal and prozac perscritions, but you can't compare the drug SOMA, which you were supposed to take if you felt the least bit upset to smoking pot occasionaly.

Perhaps, but it's a slippery slope.

It's a slipery slope if you think the world is black and white

There is no spoon :Q

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whoa:Q
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[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: MustaphaMond

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: MustaphaMond
Heh. I'm not a Mormon, but I don't drink caffeine and drink alcohol rarely.

I hope you like living in your artificial reality

I don't drink for the stimulation, but b/c I like a nice wine with my steak or seafood.

But the stimulation is still there, thus, your artificial reality

thats like saying I smoke crack for the taste

One drinks wine for the taste, right?

but there is still the chemical stimulation

More people drink wine for the taste than the chemical stimulation. No one buys a $200 bottle of "chemical stimulation" to go with their Peking Duck.

nik

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
More people drink wine for the taste than the chemical stimulation. No one buys a $200 bottle of "chemical stimulation" to go with their Peking Duck.

I know, but Mustaphamond said that if you get chemical stimulation that you are living in an artificial reality, if you drink a glass of wine, rerdless if you want to or not, you are getting stimulated chemicaly.
I don't agree with his statement at all, I don't think that drinking a glass of wine is living in an artificial reality as I don't think that smoking occasionaly is living in an artificial reality, I was simply pointing out the absurdity in his statement

 

[Lucky]

More people drink wine for the taste than the chemical stimulation.

If you ever went to a four year college you wouldn't be saying that. 😉

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: MusicSoundsBetterWithYou
http://www.dancesafe.org/ubbthreads...Old=allposts&Main=72500&Search=true#Post72500

Read that on how these damn conservatives wield an undue influence on our politics...with nearly 2 million of our voting age population in prison, which is a 2% swing in the election, and that doesnt even take into account the redistrincting based on population of the electoral votes...

Hahahaha! Yes, it's all a conservative plot. That's how Clinton the Crook stayed in office for 2 full terms.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: MusicSoundsBetterWithYou
http://www.dancesafe.org/ubbthreads...Old=allposts&Main=72500&Search=true#Post72500

Read that on how these damn conservatives wield an undue influence on our politics...with nearly 2 million of our voting age population in prison, which is a 2% swing in the election, and that doesnt even take into account the redistrincting based on population of the electoral votes...

Hahahaha! Yes, it's all a conservative plot. That's how Clinton the Crook stayed in office for 2 full terms.

you can't single out clinton for being a crook, most politicians are full of sh!t

 

[crazygal]

it would be a sad day for the us if they ever leagalized it 🙁

 

[MusicSoundsBetterWithYou]

undue influence not conspiracy moron...im third party anyway....id say about 30% of the good in clintons term in office came from republican fiscal policy

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: crazygal
it would be a sad day for the us if they ever leagalized it 🙁

why is this?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
More people drink wine for the taste than the chemical stimulation. No one buys a $200 bottle of "chemical stimulation" to go with their Peking Duck.

I know, but Mustaphamond said that if you get chemical stimulation that you are living in an artificial reality, if you drink a glass of wine, rerdless if you want to or not, you are getting stimulated chemicaly.
I don't agree with his statement at all, I don't think that drinking a glass of wine is living in an artificial reality as I don't think that smoking occasionaly is living in an artificial reality, I was simply pointing out the absurdity in his statement

eh... again, my opinion. Should I just wear a goddamn target on my chest?


Anyway, a glass of wine is meant for taste. The wine's fermentation process isn't meant to produce something for people to get wasted on, it's meant to produce a taste. That's not living in an artificial reality.
Smoking pot changes your reality. It changes the way you think for the moment and changes the way your mind perceives things for the time being. How is that not an artificial reality?

nik

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: crazygal
it would be a sad day for the us if they ever leagalized it 🙁

why is this?

Because everybody'd be stoned out of their minds accomplishing nothing, munching on everything or just sleeping instead of positively contributing to society.

We'd turn into an oversized Columbia.

nik

 

[vi edit]

Anyway, a glass of wine is meant for taste. The wine's fermentation process isn't meant to produce something for people to get wasted on, it's meant to produce a taste. That's not living in an artificial reality.
Smoking pot changes your reality. It changes the way you think for the moment and changes the way your mind perceives things for the time being. How is that not an artificial reality?

So says the man who - quote - "LOVES his ABSOLUT".

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Anyway, a glass of wine is meant for taste. The wine's fermentation process isn't meant to produce something for people to get wasted on, it's meant to produce a taste. That's not living in an artificial reality.
Smoking pot changes your reality. It changes the way you think for the moment and changes the way your mind perceives things for the time being. How is that not an artificial reality?

So says the man who - quote - "LOVES his ABSOLUT".

And I do. You ever drink Vodka? No one in their right mind drinks it for the taste :disgust:

Vodka isn't wine. There's a reason I have 80 proof sitting in my freezer.

And, if I get your drift, I've never said that I don't like my artificial reality. I have a problem in life and sometimes I like to drink a little to feel a little disconnected from my problems that I can't seem to figure out how to fix. Yes, I know that's not a good thing. But until someone makes it illegal or I figure out a better way of dealing with things or actually figure out a way of fixing things, I'm going to keep my disconnected feeling every month or so.

nik

 

[eakers]

nik, i respect that you have opinons, i dont agree with them but i respect them nonetheless.


you obviously are all for drinking in moderation, is the only thing preventing you from being all for smoking in moderation the laws against it?

 

[MusicSoundsBetterWithYou]

damn....nik is the first person ive seen here to admit that hes a hypocrite...jus like pretty much EVERYONE in this world...props for that at least...dont agree with him at ALL tho🙂

 

[sandorski]

Wow! Of course there are some negative effects to smoking pot, just as there are negative effects to smoking tobacco, drinking alcohol, or eating junk food. Since those comparisons are well discussed already, I'd like to focus on other aspects of our lives, for the sake of all the "don't need no external stimulus" types. (FFMCobalt, Mustaphamond, and the like)

Do you guys watch TV? Listen to music? Play video games? Participate in other "external stumili"? Eat chocolate or other pleasure foods? Certainly there are some fundamental differences between some of these "external stimuli" and the smoking of "pot", but since you guys make the assertion that your opinion is based on some sort of superior lifestyle that emphasizes "reality/realism", shouldn't you abstain from these other "external stimuli" as well?

 

[luv2chill]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: crazygal
it would be a sad day for the us if they ever leagalized it 🙁

why is this?

Because everybody'd be stoned out of their minds accomplishing nothing, munching on everything or just sleeping instead of positively contributing to society.

We'd turn into an oversized Columbia.

nik

My you have quite the active imagination!!! Because that's just what the Netherlands is like. Marijuana has been decriminalized there for a long time and the majority of dutch citizens don't use it. The people getting high in Amsterdam are pretty much all refugees of countries where MJ is still illegal.

Make pot legal and it will lose its allure for a lot of folks. When you're a kid, half the reason you do something is because you're not "supposed to".

l2c

 

[eakers]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: crazygal
it would be a sad day for the us if they ever leagalized it 🙁

why is this?

Because everybody'd be stoned out of their minds accomplishing nothing, munching on everything or just sleeping instead of positively contributing to society.

We'd turn into an oversized Columbia.

nik

do you have any idea of the political termoil that is going on in columbia now?! that was made in very very bad taste.

furthermore, just like many people choose not to drink and not to smoke cigarettes its unreasonable to expect an entire country to start smoking a lot of pot because it becomes legal.

wait: furthermore drugs are very very illegal in columbia i have no idea what that sentence means!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: eakers
nik, i respect that you have opinons, i dont agree with them but i respect them nonetheless.


you obviously are all for drinking in moderation, is the only thing preventing you from being all for smoking in moderation the laws against it?

Nah. I don't appreciate being drunk, and I don't appreciate drunks. I don't appreciate pot smokers or pot or anything having to do with it.

nik

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: eakers

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: crazygal
it would be a sad day for the us if they ever leagalized it 🙁

why is this?

Because everybody'd be stoned out of their minds accomplishing nothing, munching on everything or just sleeping instead of positively contributing to society.

We'd turn into an oversized Columbia.

nik

do you have any idea of the political termoil that is going on in columbia now?! that was made in very very bad taste.

furthermore, just like many people choose not to drink and not to smoke cigarettes its unreasonable to expect an entire country to start smoking a lot of pot because it becomes legal.

I have no idea what's going on in Columbia now. It was a random selection in my mind of the countries that I've known to be rocked and controlled by drugs. And, truthfully, I couldn't care any less right now about the people in Columbia. I'm too busy covering my own ass.

nik

 

[BD2003]

Smoking pot changes your reality. It changes the way you think for the moment and changes the way your mind perceives things for the time being. How is that not an artificial reality? nik

Spoken by a man who has obviously never smoked. It really isnt an earth shattering sensation that changes reality, like textbooks would have you think.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Smoking pot changes your reality. It changes the way you think for the moment and changes the way your mind perceives things for the time being. How is that not an artificial reality? nik

Spoken by a man who has obviously never smoked. It really isnt an earth shattering sensation that changes reality, like textbooks would have you think.

So testamonials from countless people who've smoked it negate the possibility that I might have a small peek into the wide world of TheDumbingOfSociety?

nik

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: MacBaine
So...like eakers said... if I got a bunch of 25 year old drug opponents, you would believe them any day over the scientists from canada.... afterall, they were paid by the government, and the government wanted to relax the laws.

which studies were you refering to?
I was under the assumtion that you were refering to the studies from the "reefer maddness" era, which were completely biased. If you were making a reference to the studies done by the Canadian government it would have helped if you didn't say "I also realize that many of the old studies done half a century ago have been shown to be invalid in some aspects"

I was referring to the studies in general. A lot of the studies today have been paid for by those wishing to keep it illegal. Bascially we are saying that the studies will be biased based on who finances them. I admitted that I am not a scientist, so I cannot view the research and make my own conclusions with the insight of a scientist... I, along with most people, rely on the scientist to make conclusions for me.

Like eakers said, since the financer of the canadian studies was the canadian government, and they wanted to relax the laws, the results will be biased (according to our assumptions.) However, there are are far more studies to make me believe that there is a reason for it to be illegal.

Like I said, I am not against decriminalization, or even controlled legalization... I just feel that while the opponents of legalization may have flaws in their case, the proponents of legalization have provided an image that has all but made people ignore the scientific studies, however accurate they are. It is the same way with everything. What would you be more likely to believe... an anti-pot website that is very professional, has links to several major studies and reports, etc... or a pro-pot website that has 500 animated GIFs of a pot leaf and a background that gives you epilepsy, along with the authors "scientific facts" that merely state a few statistits such as "pot hasn't killed anybody". If you weren't biased, you would of course believe more in the first site. The pot website may be 100% accurate, and the anti-pot website may be 100% false, but people base their opinions largely off of an image... and the image most people have of pot smokers is that of a 25 year old hippie who sits on a beanbag chair smoking, eating, and sleeping all day.

 

[BD2003]

Key word is small peek. You only know what is told to you. Your insight on it would likely change if you knew the reality of it.