Canada is Dying (documentary)

Red Squirrel

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Worth a watch to see just how bad the drug, theft and overall crime issue has become. This focuses more on BC but it's really a problem everywhere. What's worse is some people are pushing for BC like policies even in Ontario when we already know the damage it has done to BC.

 

Charmonium

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The US has learned that drug enforcement doesn't work. There's too much money to be made. If you doubt that, just look at the opioid epidemic. That wasn't started by nasty heroin dealers but by pharma companies.

The only solutions are education and access to mental health services - with no public stigma as to the latter.

So many addicts of every sort have underlying psych issues that they're trying to escape. But dealing with that means doing a complete pivot away from blaming the addicts. Sure, individual choice is critical. But those choices have to be made on the basis of a wide and easily access base of information.

The problem there though is that it will take decades to see results and you still need to do something constructive with addicts that have no interest in recovery.
 

Red Squirrel

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Yeah it's a tough issue especially since lot of them don't want help. I think it could help to go after the traffickers (not the users) but that's probably an endless game too. Enabling them is not the solution though and that seems to be what they're doing.
 
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brianmanahan

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i don't see any way that north america doesn't end up in basically the judge dredd universe by 2100

well, unless the nuke war ends everything before that
 
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Red Squirrel

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Inflation is probably one of the main culprits, everything is just too expensive now such as housing, and the bills that come with it. You simply can't survive on a minimum wage job now days and if you have no education and no skills that's all you can find. One thing cities could do is allow for smaller dwellings and it should be legal to park a trailer on your own land and have someone live in it. Or buy land and park several trailers on it and all split the costs. or build a tiny house etc... There should be low tax regions where they allow this.

There will always be people that don't want any help though, these are the real troublemakers, they steal, assault, rape, vandalize etc. Those people need to be put in jail instead of allowed to roam free.
 
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Red Squirrel

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There would definitely still need to be some rules, like requiring sewer hockup etc. Point is there needs to be more affordable housing, and current rules make it so it's not really possible. There's minimum structure sizes which means higher taxes, and usually not allowed to have 2nd dwelling on same property etc.

Of course that's only half the problem. The more troublesome people don't even want help even if it was given to them for free.

The whole situation is a mess really, and won't be easy to solve.
 

MrSquished

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Yeah it's a tough issue especially since lot of them don't want help. I think it could help to go after the traffickers (not the users) but that's probably an endless game too. Enabling them is not the solution though and that seems to be what they're doing.

Funny thing here is you have some of the most out there insane dangerous oppresive thoughts, ideas and propaganda that you willingly spread as much as you can on the internet. Any single fact that contradicts your POV that people try to help you with, you simply willfully ignore. You refuse to accept help for your dangerous contributions to society. What do we do with people who won't take help for their mental issues such as your fact derangement syndrome?
 

BudAshes

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Funny thing here is you have some of the most out there insane dangerous oppresive thoughts, ideas and propaganda that you willingly spread as much as you can on the internet. Any single fact that contradicts your POV that people try to help you with, you simply willfully ignore. You refuse to accept help for your dangerous contributions to society. What do we do with people who won't take help for their mental issues such as your fact derangement syndrome?
He sounds like a good portion of my family members that live in Canada. They are a simple people that are confused by the chaos that is consuming their country. Kind of like the hobbits when Sarumon shows up in the shire.
 

Red Squirrel

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This is what happens when conservatives close safe injection sites... But hey Ford promised a buck a beer so all is good.
Opening the safe injection sites is what made this problem worse in first place. They need to be shut down, and health units need to stop giving free needles too, and the drug houses need to be shut down. The government needs to stop enabling the crackheads. Watch the video it talks about all of this.
 

sdifox

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Opening the safe injection sites is what made this problem worse in first place. They need to be shut down, and health units need to stop giving free needles too, and the drug houses need to be shut down. The government needs to stop enabling the crackheads. Watch the video it talks about all of this.
Ahahhahaha watch a video it explains everything. /Download complete. Is this what you mean with the Great Reset?

Safe injection sites means you go there, inject there, there are people watching you for signs of OD and they collect all the needles.

Holly fuck. At least be more competent if you are going to argue against safe injection sites

Oh and Aaron Gunn tried to run for BC Liberal party leadership. I thought he was far right? Or is it just all a grift?
 
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MrSquished

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Ahahhahaha watch a video it explains everything. /Download complete. Is this what you mean with the Great Reset?

Safe injection sites means you go there, inject there, there are people watching you for signs of OD and they collect all the needles.

Holly fuck. At least be more competent if you are going to argue against safe injection sites

He doesn't care about facts. Ever. He is the worst, such a burden on any discourse and the advancement of any decent society.
 

Red Squirrel

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Ahahhahaha watch a video it explains everything. /Download complete. Is this what you mean with the Great Reset?

Safe injection sites means you go there, inject there, there are people watching you for signs of OD and they collect all the needles.

Holly fuck. At least be more competent if you are going to argue against safe injection sites

It's common sense. Think about it. Give drugs/needles to druggies, they do more drugs, and cause more trouble. Reduce the supply, they do less. Remove the entire supply, they stop altogether. Hard to remove completely but that should be the goal. Adding to the supply and actually enabling them is just retarded. That's why we're in this mess. BC is in an even bigger mess, clearly the "solution" of enabling them more is NOT helping.

May as well start serving beer at AA meetings.
 

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Holly fuck. At least be more competent if you are going to argue against safe injection sites
That ship has sailed, gotten lost, set itself ablaze due to incompetence, and has sunk to the bottom of the sea where the ship's contents are poisoning everything they touch.
 
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sdifox

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It's common sense. Think about it. Give drugs/needles to druggies, they do more drugs, and cause more trouble. Reduce the supply, they do less. Remove the entire supply, they stop altogether. Hard to remove completely but that should be the goal. Adding to the supply and actually enabling them is just retarded. That's why we're in this mess. BC is in an even bigger mess, clearly the "solution" of enabling them more is NOT helping.

May as well start serving beer at AA meetings.



Your common cents goes against reality. Street drug laced with fentanyl is the major killer. Provide safe drug source and the death rate drops. Then you treat the addiction. Sure cost a lot more than letting them die but hey it's kind of what a compassionate society is for.

OR, you can start paying me back for thirty years of me subsidizing your rural lifestyle.
 
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MrSquished

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Your comment cents goes against reality. Street drug laced with fentanyl is the major killer. Provide safe drug source and the death rate drops. Then you treat the addiction. Sure cost a lot more than letting them die but hey it kind of what a compassionate society is for.

OR, you can start paying me back for thirty years of me subsidizing your rural lifestyle.

The guy is not only a leech on the discourse and intelligence level of society, he is a leech financially with his rural lifestyle. Which I didn't mind, until the last few years showed us what that has really accomplished for is. Nothing but a bunch of MAGA.
 

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Your comment cents goes against reality. Street drug laced with fentanyl is the major killer. Provide safe drug source and the death rate drops. Then you treat the addiction. Sure cost a lot more than letting them die but hey it kind of what a compassionate society is for.

OR, you can start paying me back for thirty years of me subsidizing your rural lifestyle.

He's really into Jesus accept all the times that he isn't (which is all the time)
 
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