Can you prove the Bible has fallacies?

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: everman
*hands out slices of pie*

French Silk?!

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
My question is a serious question. I see so many people calling the Bible a lie, and I want to see how they arrived at that conclusion.

If you are seriously curious, the best thing you can do is read it for yourself and form your own opinion.

 

[Lyfer]

May the real religion win.

GAME. Match. SET.

 

[Bartino]

the bible does have inconsistencies in it, but you wont ever be able to totally disprove it.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Why do you have ti DISprove something that has never been PROVEn in the first place?

If you can't prove it, then you try to disprove it. Same goes for evolution and creationism.

 

[Reckoner]

One thing I know for sure, you don't ask that question here. Too many geeks who think they know it all and will bash religion any chance they get.

 

[MrWizzard]

Why do you need to disprove it? If you don't like it don't follow it. But remember your choice. YOUR choice.

EDIT: Pie Please?

 

[Bartino]

Originally posted by: everman
*hands out slices of pie*

thank you much

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
My question is a serious question. I see so many people calling the Bible a lie, and I want to see how they arrived at that conclusion.

If you are seriously curious, the best thing you can do is read it for yourself and form your own opinion.

I already believe the Bible is the Word of God; I just want to hear what other people have to say.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: everman
*hands out slices of pie*

may I have another?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

How about 3 or 4 days went by after the universe was created before the sun was created?... What was a day before there was a sun?

Where did Lilith come from?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Why do you have ti DISprove something that has never been PROVEn in the first place?

If you can't prove it, then you try to disprove it. Same goes for evolution and creationism.

You could just ignore all of them...let the loonies on all sides scream and shout how THEY are right, or that THEIR god is the ONLY true god...while you go about your life in bliss and happiness, knowing they are all wrong...Juju, the god who lives high in the great Macarena Tree is the only REAL TRUE god...the rest of them are all going to be ground up for fertilizer...

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: LtPage1
This is a really, really dumb question. You obviously don't understand people or religion at all.

How so?

look up the word "faith" and ye shall be closer to understanding truth

 

[BurnItDwn]

Many others have stated the facts.
To add to the list.

It's been translated from one language to another then to another etc. Translations are not perfect.
Over time, the same language changes and some words gain new meanings. Even if the translations were perfect, english now is different from what It was then.

At the very least, it's different from when it was originally written.
It's also being interpred differently from when it was first translated into English.
Contradictions have been posted before. I do not know any off the top of my head.
If something contradicts itself, then it's impossible for it to be 100% true/right.
Lots of the stuff that they talk about does not make sense, (Example, the earth is 6000 years old according to the bible? hahaha very funny)

I honestly do believe the bible exists to teach through symbolism and metaphors. I just do not see how ANYONE could interpret as literal fact, as so much of it seems te defy logic and science.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Many others have stated the facts.
To add to the list.

It's been translated from one language to another then to another etc. Translations are not perfect.
Over time, the same language changes and some words gain new meanings. Even if the translations were perfect, english now is different from what It was then.

At the very least, it's different from when it was originally written.
It's also being interpred differently from when it was first translated into English.
Contradictions have been posted before. I do not know any off the top of my head.
If something contradicts itself, then it's impossible for it to be 100% true/right.
Lots of the stuff that they talk about does not make sense, (Example, the earth is 6000 years old according to the bible? hahaha very funny)

I honestly do believe the bible exists to teach through symbolism and metaphors. I just do not see how ANYONE could interpret as literal fact, as so much of it seems te defy logic and science.

I myself would like to see some contradictions. Like you said, if the Bible contradicts itself it can't be 100% correct and therefore would disprove God's existance as he claims to be perfect.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Anyone need a spare lawn chair? The keg is in the corner.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Anyone need a spare lawn chair? The keg is in the corner.

Thanks...

 

[MrWizzard]

BurnItDwn

I just do not see how ANYONE could interpret as literal fact, as so much of it seems te defy logic and science.

I laughed out loud at this. ahhhhh that's good.

I see the point you are trying to make; I think you just made it wrong.

As if the human race is logical. Selfish yes, logical as a whole, no.

 

[RCN]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Many others have stated the facts.
To add to the list.

It's been translated from one language to another then to another etc. Translations are not perfect.
Over time, the same language changes and some words gain new meanings. Even if the translations were perfect, english now is different from what It was then.

At the very least, it's different from when it was originally written.
It's also being interpred differently from when it was first translated into English.
Contradictions have been posted before. I do not know any off the top of my head.
If something contradicts itself, then it's impossible for it to be 100% true/right.
Lots of the stuff that they talk about does not make sense, (Example, the earth is 6000 years old according to the bible? hahaha very funny)

I honestly do believe the bible exists to teach through symbolism and metaphors. I just do not see how ANYONE could interpret as literal fact, as so much of it seems te defy logic and science.

I myself would like to see some contradictions. Like you said, if the Bible contradicts itself it can't be 100% correct and therefore would disprove God's existance as he claims to be perfect.

The two deaths come to mind.........

You can find more here:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

Not all of them are in fact contradictions though....

 

[thecrecarc]

i got a box of , can i have soem beer and a lawnchair please? apple pie, ty

 

[Doboji]

You die, and then you don't go to heaven or hell

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Many others have stated the facts.
To add to the list.

It's been translated from one language to another then to another etc. Translations are not perfect.
Over time, the same language changes and some words gain new meanings. Even if the translations were perfect, english now is different from what It was then.

At the very least, it's different from when it was originally written.
It's also being interpred differently from when it was first translated into English.
Contradictions have been posted before. I do not know any off the top of my head.
If something contradicts itself, then it's impossible for it to be 100% true/right.
Lots of the stuff that they talk about does not make sense, (Example, the earth is 6000 years old according to the bible? hahaha very funny)

I honestly do believe the bible exists to teach through symbolism and metaphors. I just do not see how ANYONE could interpret as literal fact, as so much of it seems te defy logic and science.

I myself would like to see some contradictions. Like you said, if the Bible contradicts itself it can't be 100% correct and therefore would disprove God's existance as he claims to be perfect.

No, that would not disprove anything. Even if god "authored" this book, it's not like he wrote it out manually. Also, contradictions could be intentionally entered, thus not proving anything to the value of the book "as a whole."

For contradictions, just go to google and type: bible contradiction
Then click on any of the more then 3 million results.


When interpreting the book as literal fact, it fails every test.
If it's being interpreted as a sort of a mystical guide, then it can not at all be disproven currently, nor can it ever be disproven.

It's all in how you interpret it.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Is it perfect, or fallible? Discuss.

Edit - The thread title is asking how you as an individual came to the conclusion that the Bible is not what it claims to be. I am not asking for people to disprove it for me.

Considering it was written by men and there's no evidence that it was produced directly or indirectly by a diety.....

 

[MrWizzard]

You can find more here:

Um, a lot of those are really taken out of context....

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard
BurnItDwn

I just do not see how ANYONE could interpret as literal fact, as so much of it seems te defy logic and science.

I laughed out loud at this. ahhhhh that's good.

I see the point you are trying to make; I think you just made it wrong.

As if the human race is logical. Selfish yes, logical as a whole, no.

I am a far cry from a a master linguist.