Can you guys give this setup a once over for me.

narzy

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Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A Chassis, 12-Bay, ( BLACK ) $175.00

ASUS P4C800 DELUXE Retail w/ ASUS AI Features $191.99

ATI OEM SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DVI/TV 8X AGP BULK $403.00

Antec 430W Power Supply TRUE430 $82.99

Intel Pentium 4 / 3.0GHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL $452.00

SONY 1.44MB 3.5 INCH INTERNAL FDD DRIVE - OEM $7.00

2x Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM $169.00 $338.00

Pioneer 16X DVD-ROM Model DVD-120S Slot Load Drive OEM $47.00

M-AUDIO Sound Card - "Revolution" RTL $90.00

2x512MB, 184-pin DIMM Upgrade for a ASUS P4C800 Deluxe System $169.98

check it over, and make sure I didn't forget anything.

Total 1956.96 -shipping
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: narzy
Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A Chassis, 12-Bay, ( BLACK ) $175.00

ASUS P4C800 DELUXE Retail w/ ASUS AI Features $191.99

ATI OEM SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DVI/TV 8X AGP BULK $403.00

Antec 430W Power Supply TRUE430 $82.99

Intel Pentium 4 / 3.0GHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL $452.00

SONY 1.44MB 3.5 INCH INTERNAL FDD DRIVE - OEM $7.00

2x Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM $169.00 $338.00

Pioneer 16X DVD-ROM Model DVD-120S Slot Load Drive OEM $47.00

M-AUDIO Sound Card - "Revolution" RTL $90.00

2x512MB, 184-pin DIMM Upgrade for a ASUS P4C800 Deluxe System $169.98

check it over, and make sure I didn't forget anything.


Sounds like a nice setup. You don't need/want a CDRW? I see you got a DVD drive though. Oh, and do you have speakers, keyboard, mouse, etc. already? The devil is in the details, as they say...
 

narzy

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Probably already have these, but:

Speakers
Monitor
keyboard
mouse

amish

ya I'm going to recycle the one I'm on now, and put the current system on my KVM switch I got for 5 bucks off a defunt ISP
 

bigrash

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You're spending $338 for about 74gb of hard drive space? Damn that's too much, even though it's 10,000rpm
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Spac3d
Wow, that is a lot of money for a computer.

Heh, I was thinking it was a lot of computer for the money. :p
 

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the 2x 36 gb hddsare a waist. it's converted scsi technology and it isn't that fast as one would think. safe the money for 2x 160 or 2x200 gb hdds.

also you didn't tell wht kind of ram you're planning tu buy.
i would stick with a 2,4c good ram and overclock this thingy (using a good cooler), as u're taking the xaser3, the throughput of air in the system is good.

this is more of a show-off rig, than a real meant to be bad-ass rig (sorry for that, just my 2 cents)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: bigrash
You're spending $338 for about 74gb of hard drive space? Damn that's too much, even though it's 10,000rpm

Well, for someone like me, it isn't how much storage there is on my main drive (OS and programs), it's how fast it is. Maybe Narzy thinks the same way?
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
$175 for a premodded case?

don't have the time, energy, talent, or patiance to do it myself and even if I did, I don't think I could make it look as good as the thermaltake, plus the biggie has a buttload of fans.
 

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Originally posted by: bigrash
You're spending $338 for about 74gb of hard drive space? Damn that's too much, even though it's 10,000rpm
This was going to be my question - does the extra 2,800 RPMS of rotational speed give you that much of an advantage? For the slightly more than one of those drives you can get a 7200RPM 8MB buffer SATA 160GB drive. Haven't seen any reviews of the 10k drives, so I don't know the speed differences.

I also have doubts about the Asus motherboard. I am looking at putting a similary spec'd machine together, and the fact that Asus went 3rd part for the SATA and LAN and basically continues to clog the PCI bus instead of using the Intel parts with their dedicated bandwidth has me a little spooked.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: bigrash
You're spending $338 for about 74gb of hard drive space? Damn that's too much, even though it's 10,000rpm

you should have seen the scsi setup I had going, I went wild and came out at 20K, ya it was a terrabite of 15K drives but I'm going to dedicate this to gaming and use the fileserver I have setup for exactly that. I buy a computer once every 3 years, I upgrade in the meantime, but I want somthing that is going to last me along time and preform.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: spanky
how about an OS :p

on top doc :) linux is going on this boxen or win2k3 server for the AT game server and that will free my windows XP Pro licence.


as for the HD, Amused hit it on the head. I've got plenty of space around the house, and in the fileserver(s) so it wasn't about space, but speed.

as for the off part LAN and SATA I hadn't seen or read anything too negitive with them. tho most reviews did use IDE hard drives so that didn't show the impact that a bad SATA controller would have. nor did I see any LAN testing, as I think they assumed it "just worked" good point, and somthing to definatly look in to. It's eather Asus or Epox at this point unless I hear different. Those two mainly because theirs and ASUS in my rig currently, and it works great, and the rig I built for my mom uses an Epox board, which again has given us no problems.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: Luagsch
the 2x 36 gb hddsare a waist. it's converted scsi technology and it isn't that fast as one would think. safe the money for 2x 160 or 2x200 gb hdds.

also you didn't tell wht kind of ram you're planning tu buy.
i would stick with a 2,4c good ram and overclock this thingy (using a good cooler), as u're taking the xaser3, the throughput of air in the system is good.

this is more of a show-off rig, than a real meant to be bad-ass rig (sorry for that, just my 2 cents)

really? damn I was hoping this would come across as a real bad-ass rig :(.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
DVD-RW Get that instead.

I did think about it and 2 things come up, 1 I wanted to keep my cost below 2grand in parts, and 2, I've got a fast CDRW with burnproof, that I barley use, and I have no use (at the moment) for a DVD-RW other then to copy my replayTV show onto, which I'm doing onto the file server after I compress them to WMV or DiVX (my file server has 4x200gbHD's and I'm getting a larger case and an IDE PCI card to put more in...viva la hot deals...)
 

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Originally posted by: narzy


as for the off part LAN and SATA I hadn't seen or read anything too negitive with them. tho most reviews did use IDE hard drives so that didn't show the impact that a bad SATA controller would have. nor did I see any LAN testing, as I think they assumed it "just worked" good point, and somthing to definatly look in to. It's eather Asus or Epox at this point unless I hear different. Those two mainly because theirs and ASUS in my rig currently, and it works great, and the rig I built for my mom uses an Epox board, which again has given us no problems.
From what I had read, the parts were top notch (the LAN was 3Com, the SATA Promise, I think), the concern was whether or not they were saturating the PCI bus and that PCI bandwidth would become an issue. The base spec for the 875P has an Intel LAN controller with dedicated bandwidth to the CPU, and I think the SATA was also supposed to have its own bus bandwidth to the CPU, freeing up the PCI bus (though once you remove those two items, the sound card is about the only thing left).
I prefer Asus motherboards myself. Just not positive this go-around if I will use Asus again.

 

narzy

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Originally posted by: spanky
i got u this time narzy... how a mousepad!

/me whacks spanky over the head with his ratzpad...;) tho I will probably need another one for the KVM stations which I will probably end up using more now that this rig will be on it... DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: Cerebus451
Originally posted by: narzy


as for the off part LAN and SATA I hadn't seen or read anything too negitive with them. tho most reviews did use IDE hard drives so that didn't show the impact that a bad SATA controller would have. nor did I see any LAN testing, as I think they assumed it "just worked" good point, and somthing to definatly look in to. It's eather Asus or Epox at this point unless I hear different. Those two mainly because theirs and ASUS in my rig currently, and it works great, and the rig I built for my mom uses an Epox board, which again has given us no problems.
From what I had read, the parts were top notch (the LAN was 3Com, the SATA Promise, I think), the concern was whether or not they were saturating the PCI bus and that PCI bandwidth would become an issue. The base spec for the 875P has an Intel LAN controller with dedicated bandwidth to the CPU, and I think the SATA was also supposed to have its own bus bandwidth to the CPU, freeing up the PCI bus (though once you remove those two items, the sound card is about the only thing left).
I prefer Asus motherboards myself. Just not positive this go-around if I will use Asus again.

excuse my ignorence, but couldn't we speculate that the SATA and lan controller on the asus board could infact have their own CPU bandwidth if asus built around the spec for most of the board.

and if not ASUS then who?