can you built an apple

[db]

<< So will these "logic" boards fit in a standard ATX case? >>


And what about the power supply--same as would be used on an AT or ATX.
I hear Macs are silent, w/o cpu fans. Do they have a fan on the power supply?

 

[n0cmonkey]

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<< no, but you can build your own powerpc based system. some companies are producing reference motherboards with all the usual slots (pci, agp). >>



But they arent always compatible with Mac PPC software. >>


What's the difference between a 'normal' PPC system and an 'Apple' PPC system hardware-wise? >>



Dunno exactly, but if I had to guess I would say just enough to make the drivers incompatible. If someone wants to send me a non-Mac PPC system Ill try loading OS X on there and find out for sure.

 

[toant103]

i don't know about building an apple but there's clone apple.

 

[Quaggoth]

Of course you can, what do you think they do... Fall from trees??

 

[Neurofreeze]

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<< So will these "logic" boards fit in a standard ATX case? >>


And what about the power supply--same as would be used on an AT or ATX.
I hear Macs are silent, w/o cpu fans. Do they have a fan on the power supply? >>



Yes, they have a power supply fan.

 

[CTho9305]

PPC mobos that I know of require drilling the mobo tray to mount - they use ATX power supplies but different mounting holes. the difference between an apple mac and a PPC clone is that you NEED apple firmware to run MacOS, or so my apple-freak friend tells me. without the firmware, no MacOS can run on it.

 

[BFG10K]

AFAIK Mac motherboards do not use an ATX form factor.

 

[Elledan]

<< the difference between an apple mac and a PPC clone is that you NEED apple firmware to run MacOS, or so my apple-freak friend tells me. without the firmware, no MacOS can run on it. >>


Did anyone mention 'reverse-engineering'?

 

[n0cmonkey]

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<< the difference between an apple mac and a PPC clone is that you NEED apple firmware to run MacOS, or so my apple-freak friend tells me. without the firmware, no MacOS can run on it. >>


Did anyone mention 'reverse-engineering'? >>



The firmware can be downloaded. And I believe it follows the Open Firmware specs so there should not have to be a whole lot of reverse engineering necessary.

 

[Elledan]

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<< the difference between an apple mac and a PPC clone is that you NEED apple firmware to run MacOS, or so my apple-freak friend tells me. without the firmware, no MacOS can run on it. >>


Did anyone mention 'reverse-engineering'? >>



The firmware can be downloaded. And I believe it follows the Open Firmware specs so there should not have to be a whole lot of reverse engineering necessary. >>


In that case it shouldn't be too hard to build a real Apple PPC, correct?

 

[Diable]

Probably not but Apple would sue the sh!t out if the person that released a firmware for non-Mac PPC machines that would run the MacOS plus I'm sure reverse engineering Apples firmware is violating the DMCA so you could have the FBI on your ass along with Apple's attack lawyers.