Can u perceive beyond infinity?

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The total number of bits of data in every Hard Drive, CD, DVD, Memory Card, Storage Device etc. in the whole world.
Try putting a number that is even kinda close.
 

Jahee

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I cant, i cant percieve a time when there was nothing, i.e before the "big bang". I imagine just a big empty space, but then that wouldnt be there because theres nothing :confused:
 

dennilfloss

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Sure can. My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives. It is is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention. :p
 

thesurge

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Sure, you can.

Imagine the set of integers
(1,3,5,...)
There's an infinite amount of integers in that set, right?

Now consider the set of integers
(2,4,6,8,...)
There's an infinite amount of integers in that set too, right?

However, they're different "sets" of infinity. This 7-8-9 dimensions in the "superstring theory" encompass connecting and folding through the different infinities of time/physical state (different universes if you will). The tenth dimension is all the different "infinities" in one single point of indeterminate size.
 

CollectiveUnconscious

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
No problem for me to perceive beyond infinity. Which infinity, btw? Aleph-nought? Continuum?

No you cannot. You have an idea of "beyond infinity," but ideas are inaccurate representations of actualities. Perception comes only from sensation.
 

her209

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The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?
 

CollectiveUnconscious

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Originally posted by: her209
The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?

No. For sound to exist it must be perceived. There was nothing to perceive, thus the sound did not exist.
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: her209
The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?

No. For sound to exist it must be perceived. There was nothing to perceive, thus the sound did not exist.

So if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it than it didn't make a noise?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: her209
The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?

No. For sound to exist it must be perceived. There was nothing to perceive, thus the sound did not exist.

So if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it than it didn't make a noise?

what is the sound of one hand clapping? (simpsons FTW)
 

Motorheader

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: her209
The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?

No. For sound to exist it must be perceived. There was nothing to perceive, thus the sound did not exist.

So if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it than it didn't make a noise?

what is the sound of one hand clapping? (simpsons FTW)

That only works in a vacuum.
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Sure can. My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives. It is is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention. :p

Ditto!
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Motorheader
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: her209
The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?
No. For sound to exist it must be perceived. There was nothing to perceive, thus the sound did not exist.
So if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it than it didn't make a noise?
what is the sound of one hand clapping? (simpsons FTW)
That only works in a vacuum.
If you stuck your hand in a vacuum, then it would cease to be a vacuum wouldn't it?
 

CollectiveUnconscious

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Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: her209
The real question is did the Big Bang make a really loud sound when it banged?

No. For sound to exist it must be perceived. There was nothing to perceive, thus the sound did not exist.

So if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it than it didn't make a noise?

If there were no living creatures in the surrounding area capable of perceiving the noise then it would not make one.