can i beat vegas with this method?

da loser

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here's my plan for blackjack, although it should work with any game against the house maybe roulet is better: i bet to win a certain amount say $5, then if i lose each successive bet contains all my loses plus $5

ex:
bet $5 win
bet $5 lose
bet $10 lose
bet $20 lose
bet $40 win total winnings $10
bet $5 ....

the only way i could lose is if A there's a limit on how high i can bet or i run our of money, although i could chance my winning to $1 to slowly approach that limit.

I doubt i'm the first to think of this, so why can't i do this?
 

loup garou

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Amazing...you've figured it out! Withdraw all your savings, sell all your possessions and go to Vegas, NOW!
 

Viper GTS

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No, you're not the first, but remember this:

The casino's pockets are MUCH deeper than yours.

Viper GTS
 

zer0burn

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the house always has te upper hand with blackjack played right u have I think a 49% chance of winning
 

newbiepcuser

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what if the order is thrown off and you lose at $40.00? With 4 to 5 deck blackjack, a dealer can beat you anytime and pull a 21 out of their arse.

 

Kyteland

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You can't do it because you don't have infinite money and there is always a house betting limit. Even if that betting limit wan't there you would still lose when you ran out of money. This is no different then the basic 'doubling up' strategy. All of your small wins will eventually be taken away by one HUGE loss.

Edit: If you follow this strategy you will be like your nick, da loser.
 

glen

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Basically, with enough money, you can get very good odds for winning a certain amount.
The problem is you need a whole lot of money, and there is still always going to be a small chance you loose all of it.
 

Amused

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First, all tables have maximum bets to stop just this kind of thing.

Sooner or later, you will crash and burn.
 
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here is what will happen

bet $5 win
bet $5 lose
bet $10 lose
bet $20 win
bet $5 lose
bet $10 lose
bet $20 lose
bet $40 lose
bet $80 and u get an 11 so u double down so its $160 lose
bet $160 lose

leave the table
 

brtspears2

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No. If everyone could win like this, everyone would own the town.

Slow, consistancy, luck. Thats what you need.
 

ggavinmoss

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This would be fine at roulette if there weren't table limits. All it takes is an absurdly long string of red or black to break this method.

-geoff
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: ggavinmoss
This would be fine at roulette if there weren't table limits. All it takes is an absurdly long string of red or black to break this method.

-geoff

And that happens all the time.

What people do not realize is the every time to ball is put in play, there is a 50/50 chance of it hitting red or black. This is ignoring the two green house numbers. It could hit red fifty times, and the next time you put the ball into play, the odds will still be 50/50 chance of it hitting red or black.
 

Jhill

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Many many people have tried this before. It won't work. Even if it did start to work (which it won't) the casino has the right to promptly remove your ass.
 

TheNinja

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Actually start at a $1 minimum table with a $1000 max. You'd have to lose 10 hands in a row (which I have done by the way, heh, at which point you'd have to bet 1024 (which you couldn't do) in order to get back your money. But with the lower minimum it is less risky but you will still lose. Plus even if you win on say a $512 hand, you are only up $1 from your original string of loses.
 

Shooters

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That's called the Martindale method; it works in the sense that with every winning hand you will win back all of the money from your previous losses. The problem with it is that you need to have an extremely large bankroll if you start losing many hands in a row, and as others mentioned, this type of method is exactly why casinos have limits on their blackjack tables. Yes, the limits are usually pretty high (maybe 5 or 10K), but in blackjack it's definitely possible to lose enough consective hands to reach the limit.

My suggestion is that you learn basic strategy, which you could easily do in one afternoon. Then learn how to count cards. Of course it's impossible to know exactly what card is going to come out next, but the idea behind counting cards is that it gives you an idea of whether or not the deck is in your favor; then you adjust your bet accordingly. Losing the small ones and winning the big ones is what it's all about.
 

Blackjack is a game of patience. You bet low when your cold and big when your hot. You need to have a big enough bankroll to ride out the cold streaks when playing. Also dont get too greedy. Many have beat the house but gave it all back because they forgot the cardinal f@cking rule " never overstay your welcome"
 

Hammer

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you can do that on blackjack provided your playing at a no limit or very high limit table and have tons of cash. like more than the max at least.
 

Alex

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Originally posted by: glen
Basically, with enough money, you can get very good odds for winning a certain amount.
The problem is you need a whole lot of money, and there is still always going to be a small chance you loose all of it.

and plus if you have that much money whats the point of playin blackjack and makin 5 dollar bets eh?