Can America survive stupid?

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JockoJohnson

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No, we cannot survive. The stupid don't even know who they are. In fact, a good bit of the stupid actually think they are the intellectual elite. And a good bit of the stupid are also policy makers -- this is equally true of both sides, no false equivalencies here.
 

theeedude

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Democracies can survive stupid, because stupidity leads to hardship, and hardship leads to smarting up, which then, if the voting system isn't rigged or suppressed leads to course corrections.
Non-Democracies have a harder time, because as people wisen up, there are no good levers for them to correct course except through revolution and often civil war with those who still remain dumb.
 

feralkid

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Probably not, the stupid breed without reservation and without the resources to raise their children properly and then turn to idiot liberals who are all too happy to hand them everything using other people's resources to buy their own power....nope...we're fucked!!

You're talking about black people, right?


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TheSlamma

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Democracies can survive stupid, because stupidity leads to hardship, and hardship leads to smarting up, which then, if the voting system isn't rigged or suppressed leads to course corrections.
Non-Democracies have a harder time, because as people wisen up, there are no good levers for them to correct course except through revolution and often civil war with those who still remain dumb.
That is why I'm excited for this latest one to burst. So people can put down their obsessive devices and social not working accounts and wake up to what is going on around them.

Parents, your kids hate your smartphones, they want to you pay attention to them!
Also making death threats over video games is NOT okay
As hot as teacher is, she's still just a mentally screwed up pedophile
D's and R's are BOTH out to help corporations, Obamas latest appointments are proof of that
Your 2 year old knowing how to operate a tablet doesn't mean they have a genius IQ
Being able to get a mortgage up to 44% of your income is NOT a good thing
 

BoberFett

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Make lobbying illegal? First step would be to vote all Republicans out of office so Democrats can work on reversing the ruling that money = free speech. I'm sure you'll get right on that.

ROFL! You believe that if Democrats had a monopoly on power, they'd want money out of politics? The party in power never wants that, it's only the minority party that every complains about the rules of politics.
 

Moonbeam

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Liberals are in denial. They can't believe that conservatives can't think because they are stupid. That makes liberals just as 'stupid' as conservatives. Conservatives are just as smart as liberals. They just use their intelligence to invent rationalizations that satisfy their need to maintain their carefully crafted egos there to protect themselves from how inferior they actually feel. They had to do this to survive as children. They became the Borg because resistance was futile. Liberals have a similar terror they do not want to face, the thought that conservatives must be stupid to so successfully resist the obvious facts of reality. They really think that if they could just present enough logic, even a stupid conservative would see. But here conservatives have outsmarted them. And to think we have known for centuries that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. My dear liberal friends. You must face the fact that reason and logic will not save us. The US is dying from 'stupid' or what stupid really is because we want it too. We live in a nation of psychotics terrified of seeing their actual condition. One hand washes the other.
 

thraashman

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I don't know which is a bigger problem, stupid or crazy. And of course the number of people who are a combination of both. You can go through P&N and it's pretty clear that the right has a greater number of both stupid and crazy. But while for stupid it's only a slight advantage, the left can't even come close to the numbers of crazy put up by the right.
 

IGBT

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your obama..the king of elected self loathing liberalism is the reigning dumb ass at this point in time.
 

glenn1

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Too bad we can't just grow up, those that refuse to that is.
The scary part, many hold positions of power in government and business.
Can America survive the stupid policy?

China is advancing in the space program with launching a moon orbiter.
Modern countries have better healthcare that we do. And can ever hope to.
All the while, America is the richest nation and most powerful but that is no guarantee it will last.
We seem to be sitting on the sidelines while China, Japan, and Russia are certainly not.

All while in America, the trend is to squeeze the middle class into submission, restrict voting rights, gerrymander districts to ensure misrepresentation, guns guns guns everything guns, progress backwards in denial when it comes to addressing climate change, energy, minority rights, women rights, equality, clean environment, our failing addressing infrastructure, and our practice of continually voting for the craziest looniest politicians out there.

We missed all the signs.
The signs of an impending 9/11, the signs of Ebola entering the country, and a guy running inside the Whitehouse front door.
Just to name a few of the more current news events.

When America is solely controlled and ran by business and the Mitt Romney's, and we look around to find other countries with high speed railway, energy dependency, sound national security, common sense laws and protections, I wonder about that day when we will see ourselves as some third world country.
Wealthy, maybe, but too stupid to handle reality and constantly tripping over our own feet.

And potholes that could eat a truck.

And still our only achievement?
Electing the stupidest politicians available to office.
Stay tuned.

2/10, you need to work on your rant skills. Let me summarize your complaints:

● China is going to the moon, which we did 45 years ago.
● Other countries have a system for healthcare OP prefers.
● We're "sitting on the sidelines," "squeezing the middle class," and other platitudes.
● Gerrymander districts means everyone is represented but not in the "correct" mix according to OP
● OP dislikes guns
● Left is inept at politics (e.g. lack of progress on climate change, energy, minority rights, women rights, equality, clean environment, our failing addressing infrastructure)
● Didn't predict 9/11
● Didn't end air travel as we know it by stopping anyone with communicable diseases from entering country
● Secret Service let OP down.
● Huge and ever-increasing size of government means people with money have an interest in how that government money is spent (unlike any other citizen who is completely altruistic)
● Other countries are small enough for high speed railway to make sense
● Other countries use less enery, and are thus less "dependent"
● Lack of "sound" national security (vs. plain old "normal" national security)
● Lack of "common sense" laws
● OP misunderstands what an actual third world country is like.
● OP lives somewhere where they don't fix potholes
 

doubledeluxe

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This thread is testament to why the USA is racing to the bottom of the lists that are important yo most Americans. While you fight about Obama and liberal agendas you miss the fact that the USA is falling into last place in the developed world.

What truly is important to you guys?
 

Texashiker

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Stupidity? More like stupid with fear.

The root cause of most of our problems is fear

The root problem is greed.


Liberals are in denial. They can't believe that conservatives can't think because they are stupid.

While both sides bicker the nation is going into a meat grinder.


What truly is important to you guys?

Good question. All I want is to live in peace.

I honestly do not care who the world leader is. Just leave me alone and let me live my life.
 

moonbogg

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Its not stupidity. Its because rich people control too much. They have influence over too many important things. They serve their interests first, of course. And why shouldn't they? As long as they keep it barely legal, they are fine. Problem not found until chaos in the streets.
You do realize its going to take something very severe, like nation wide chaos and bloody protests, right? Nothing less will force the rich to hand over some power and for laws to change in the favor of the people.
 

JumBie

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You are $21 trillion in debt and still counting, western banks are collapsing. Russia and China are leading the front on the global economic market, while America continues to create and spread propaganda about and through out the middle east. The American government is based on lying, misleading, and deceiving, stupidity is only a product of all of this. In the future I see more war, more lies, and possibly its downfall.
 

TheSlamma

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Its not stupidity. Its because rich people control too much. They have influence over too many important things. They serve their interests first, of course. And why shouldn't they? As long as they keep it barely legal, they are fine. Problem not found until chaos in the streets.
You do realize its going to take something very severe, like nation wide chaos and bloody protests, right? Nothing less will force the rich to hand over some power and for laws to change in the favor of the people.
There is one other way but sadly it's less realistic to ever happen than your protests even though it should be easier. We have so many products we know we hate what the companies do to middle class and to this country, but we support them no matter what. Tired of the Koch brothers? stop buying GP and other Koch industries BS, tired of cable execs? Unplug!

Nope, for Americans that's too hard, instead democrats especially just give in and pay the cable bill and hope that you vote someone in that makes a bill that says cable execs have to behave. Republicans just visualize that one day that will be them running that monopoly and continue wither their ALSO ignorant lives.
 

TheSlamma

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You are $21 trillion in debt and still counting, western banks are collapsing. Russia and China are leading the front on the global economic market, while America continues to create and spread propaganda about and through out the middle east. The American government is based on lying, misleading, and deceiving, stupidity is only a product of all of this. In the future I see more war, more lies, and possibly its downfall.
TBH I hope so, just because I think the US government is simply too big, I think China and Russia are too big too, I think the reason we see countries like Sweden and Switzerland being so happy is their government isn't an uncontrollable beast like the US is now.

The bigger the corporations or the government the smaller the citizen. 330 million people all yelling at the same time, we just can't be heard anymore.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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Only stupid people get defensive with threads like this, the replies prove this;)

Can we survive stupid? Maybe. One has to be ashamed of being stupid in order to no longer be stupid. We have a culture that puts stupidity on a pedestal and that rewards the most creatively stupid among us. Until that changes, we will continue down the path of stupid.

We might survive stupid but while we are "surviving" it, we won't be evolving as a society. It's the new middle age.
 
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Probably not, the stupid breed without reservation and without the resources to raise their children properly and then turn to idiot liberals who are all too happy to hand them everything using other people's resources to buy their own power....nope...we're fucked!!

So you're claiming that only the poor are stupid?
 
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