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OWR88

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Here is geographical map. Not as deep red as northwestern but still deep red except for Houston obviously
 

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Geographical nap
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OWR88

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BTW California is struck with wild fire. How much is Congress and Trump going to send now?

Oh wait, you say it is not the same? Don't send 765 billion, how about just 10? Those people living on the hills could use a heated pool this winter. You willing to pay for that too? Trust me those houses in Texas are bigger and fansier at fraction of the cost than those on the hills in California.
 
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Starbuck1975

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I'm just glad you were able to find something to post other than "I know you are, but what am I?". That was embarrassing, for both of us. I don't want to spend my time on a forum filled with morons, I doubt you do either. So maybe try to post less? You kinda bring everyone here down a few IQ points every time you post something.


The post above is some of your best work. It's moderately cogent, and it isn't something a 9 year old would say. Pretty good for Starbucks
Apology accepted
 

FIVR

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It's pretty amazing how the Hurricane appears to have specifically targeted Texas deplorables, leaving democrats a few miles south unscathed. Almost like divine intervention or something.


It's the most diverse city in America.
More fake news from a resident supporter. Real data says it's not even in the top 50. Barely makes top 100 (91)

http://www.city-data.com/top103.html


The sites that list it in the top 10 all use rankings like "economic diversity" and "housing diversity" to pad the numbers and make it seem like it's more than it is.
 

Starbuck1975

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BTW California is struck with wild fire. How much is Congress and Trump going to send now?

Oh wait, you say it is not the same? Don't send 765 billion, how about just 10? Those people living on the hills could use a heated pool this winter. You willing to pay for that too? Trust me those houses in Texas are bigger and fansier at fraction of the cost than those on the hills in California.
I suppose we should be having the same conversation. What should be the insurance implications and federal obligations for people who insist on living in flood plains, below sea level, earthquake zones, areas prone to wild fires, areas prone to mudslides or the myriad of other places where structures were not meant to exist.
 

Paratus

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For somebody that supposedly lives in Texas, you appear to know almost nothing about its demographics and geography.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Houston

Components of the metropolitan area
  • Harris County – 4,092,459.
  • Fort Bend County – 585,375.
  • Montgomery County – 455,746.
  • Brazoria County – 313,166.
  • Galveston County – 291,309.
  • Liberty County – 75,643.
  • Waller County – 43,205.
  • Chambers County – 35,096.

All those highlighted are BRIGHT RED REPUBLICAN COUNTIES. Oh and the one that went "Democrat" voted >40% for Trump. I wonder what would happen if we added all the votes up and counted Trump/HRC for the greater houston area? You think Trump wins? Lol... of course you do... you're smart enough to do the math.

Our man OWR88 said "The blue counties like Harris and Dallas were not hit at all."

He also said "Houston county went 75% deplorable"

Houston is in Harris county. "Houston County can't be both 75% deplorable and a blue county.

Harris can't be "not hit at all" when Houston has 10's of billions of dollars in damage.

Finally it was fucking wrong when Ted Cruz tried to hold up Sandy relief and it's still fucking wrong so stop trying to be like Ted Cruz.
 
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OWR88

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hey dont you start getting all coastal fancy on me. I am trying to be a fiscal conservative advocating small government here. We dont want to pay taxes at all cost, we just want the Fed to rebuild our home when shit happens....wait hold on, I am confused now.....
 

FIVR

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Our man OWR88 said "The blue counties like Harris and Dallas were not hit at all."

He also said "Houston county went 75% deplorable"

Houston is in Harris county. "Houston County can't be both 75% deplorable and a blue county.

Harris can't be "not hit at all" when Houston has 10's of billions of dollars in damage.

Finally it was fucking wrong when Ted Cruz tried to hold up Sandy relief and it's still fucking wrong so stop trying to be like Ted Cruz.
Fair enough, I guess he wasn't accurate.



Nonetheless, the spit-shine @Jhhnn is trying to put on houston to make it seem "liberal" and pro-democrat is a fabrication and a lie.
 

OWR88

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Our man OWR88 said "The blue counties like Harris and Dallas were not hit at all."

He also said "Houston county went 75% deplorable"

Houston is in Harris county. "Houston County can't be both 75% deplorable and a blue county.

Harris can't be "not hit at all" when Houston has 10's of billions of dollars in damage.

Finally it was fucking wrong when Ted Cruz tried to hold up Sandy relief and it's still fucking wrong so stop trying to be like Ted Cruz.
Dude, Harris was a mistake on my end. I meant to use another county as example. Houston County did go 75% deplorable. Youare just confusing Houston the city with Houston the county.

However you are missing the point. Lying Ted is my hero and I intend to keep the spirit of lying Ted. Don't like it? Talk to my deplorable, we got more guns and tiki torches.
 

Jhhnn

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Ok some really wrong stuff here.

Houston is in Harris County.
Harris country was inundated by Harvey

So you were ranting?

Of course he was. He's just a different flavor of deplorable partisan. He doesn't even get the basic stuff right like the fact that Ft Bend County voted for Clinton. I figure he's an alt for another such deplorable or a tag team member.
 

Jhhnn

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Dude, Harris was a mistake on my end. I meant to use another county as example. Houston County did go 75% deplorable. Youare just confusing Houston the city with Houston the county.

However you are missing the point. Lying Ted is my hero and I intend to keep the spirit of lying Ted. Don't like it? Talk to my deplorable, we got more guns and tiki torches.

You're the one who's been confused & are now trying to weasel your way around it so as to maintain false assertions.
 

fskimospy

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Nice find! This graphic basically proves what I was saying: That deplorables suffered almost all of the damage from this hurricane.

I wonder how @Jhhnn and @fskimospy will justify their Trump supporter support now? Perhaps more mentions of how many minority deplorables there are in these bright red counties?

Sadly for them, most people understand that being a minority does not somehow negate degenerate behavior.

Your hilarious wrongness about the party demographics of Houston aside, everyone affected by this disaster deserves help regardless of their ethnicity or who they voted for. The fact that you seem to think otherwise shows a deep sickness in how you think. It's sad.
 

Paratus

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Fair enough, I guess he wasn't accurate.



Nonetheless, the spit-shine @Jhhnn is trying to put on houston to make it seem "liberal" and pro-democrat is a fabrication and a lie.

Houston the city is liberal. The current mayor is an African American democrat. The last mayor was a woman, a lesbian, and a democrat.

The suburbs vote more red however.

You may also want to keep in mind that Texas is being sued ( and losing) for minority voter suppression. So if you are hell bent on using votes as the ideological purity test to determine the worthiness of those receiving aid realize that maybe not every liberal was able to vote.

Finally the poor are almost always hurt the worse by these disasters. They tend to be minority and democrats as well.
 
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Jhhnn

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Fair enough, I guess he wasn't accurate.



Nonetheless, the spit-shine @Jhhnn is trying to put on houston to make it seem "liberal" and pro-democrat is a fabrication and a lie.

Houston is the third most diverse city in America-

https://wallethub.com/edu/most-diverse-cities/12690/

Not to mention that Romney won Texas by a larger margin than Trump...

Them job stealin' Texans didn't realize that they were poisoning their own precious bodily fluids bringing in all those outsiders...
 
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Paratus

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Dude, Harris was a mistake on my end. I meant to use another county as example. Houston County did go 75% deplorable. Youare just confusing Houston the city with Houston the county.

However you are missing the point. Lying Ted is my hero and I intend to keep the spirit of lying Ted. Don't like it? Talk to my deplorable, we got more guns and tiki torches.

There is no Houston county.
Houston is in Harris county. Harris county is blue on your map.
 

FIVR

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Houston is the third most diverse city in America-

https://wallethub.com/edu/most-diverse-cities/12690/

Not to mention that Romney won Texas by a larger margin than Trump...

Them job stealin' Texans didn't realize that they were poisoning their own precious bodily fluids bringing in all those outsiders...


I already addressed this. They are not even in the top 50, unless you are talking about "economic diversity" and "housing diversity" .... which is not the traditional measurement of diversity.


In terms of racial diversity, they are number 91.


I will grant you that Houston is objectively diverse, but "liberal"? I can only scoff at such a suggestion.
 

FIVR

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Houston the city is liberal. The current mayor is an African American democrat. The last mayor was a woman, a lesbian, and a democrat.

The suburbs vote more red however.

You may also want to keep in mind that Texas is being sued ( and losing) for minority voter suppression. So if you are hell bent on using votes as the ideological purity test to determine the worthiness of those receiving aid realize that maybe not every liberal was able to vote.

Finally the poor are almost always hurt the worse by these disasters. They tend to be minority and democrats as well.

If you do the math, the greater houston area voted for Trump. I don't know how you can say with a straight face that the people who suffered in this Hurricane, i.e. people living in Houston or the greater houston area, are "liberal" when the numbers show they vote republican most of the time and voted for Trump in 2016.


On a totally anecdotal note, I actually personally know many people from Houston. None of them would be considered "liberal" in California, even though I know one who voted for Obama. He didn't vote for Hillary though!
 

OWR88

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Am I missing something here? Did Harvey hit southeast Texas? Or only the few square mile of Houston metro area? Who cares if Houston is blue or red? The majority of relief funding will be given to the surrounding rural area. You can bet the the poor will be short changed.
 

Paratus

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If you do the math, the greater houston area voted for Trump. I don't know how you can say with a straight face that the people who suffered in this Hurricane, i.e. people living in Houston or the greater houston area, are "liberal" when the numbers show they vote republican most of the time and voted for Trump in 2016.


On a totally anecdotal note, I actually personally know many people from Houston. None of them would be considered "liberal" in California, even though I know one who voted for Obama. He didn't vote for Hillary though!

If you note I said the city is liberal but the surrounding areas (suburbs) are red.

And anecdotally most of my friends are liberal.
 
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It's pretty amazing how the Hurricane appears to have specifically targeted Texas deplorables, leaving democrats a few miles south unscathed. Almost like divine intervention or something.



More fake news from a resident supporter. Real data says it's not even in the top 50. Barely makes top 100 (91)

http://www.city-data.com/top103.html


The sites that list it in the top 10 all use rankings like "economic diversity" and "housing diversity" to pad the numbers and make it seem like it's more than it is.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-houston-diversity-2017-htmlstory.html
How Houston has become the most diverse place in America

3rd in this list
https://wallethub.com/edu/most-diverse-cities/12690/

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...-became-the-most-diverse-city-in-11133665.php