• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Camaro ZL1 will be rated at 580hp

exdeath said:
Maybe it can keep up with a 4th gen now?
Click to expand...

Huh? The 4th gen was a mid to low 13 second car. The SS is a 12.9 consistent car.

With 580hp, larger tires and less weight than the CTS-V, this will out perform any Corvette besides a Z06/ZR1 which run another 15-20k more.
 
Arkaign said:
A niche car for those with the money but not the sense to choose a Vette 🙂 Even at 580hp, I wouldn't expect it to really be as dynamic as even a GS, let alone a Z06. Expected pricing is somewhere north of $50k. $50k will buy a 2010 Z06 with 6k miles :

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...ype=b&num_records=25&cardist=4&standard=false

😀
Click to expand...

The only way you're getting a 2010 Z06 for $50k is if it is a salvage vehicle or someone screwed up.

"3LT car with NAV, Stick Shift , Chrome Z06 style wheels with newer Michillen PS2 as an added bonus ! "
 
Ah, lol. You're right. Looks like you have to back to '07ish to find a Z06, at which point it's obviously much more used. That's what I get for a quick search of Vette +Z06 lol.
 
I'm still pretty meh on the Camaro over the overall shape of the car; I just don't like the way it looks. Of course, I don't have an unbiased opinion since I own a '12 Mustang Shelby GT500.
 
Pariah said:
I'm sure he knows that. He was sarcastically pointing out that the linked vehicle was not a Z06.
Click to expand...

Yeah I dun goofed 😀

Silly though, the stock Vette @ 430hp can still put up times just a shade over 12 😀 So it's still probably in the same neighborhood.
 
Kadarin said:
I'm still pretty meh on the Camaro over the overall shape of the car; I just don't like the way it looks. Of course, I don't have an unbiased opinion since I own a '12 Mustang Shelby GT500.
Click to expand...

I like the way they look, but I wouldn't want to own one. Every time I see one up close, I wonder why GM didn't include a periscope so the driver can see outside the car.
 
Arkaign said:
Even stock Vettes are quick :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYy_ad_0wAU

Stock Z06 is mad fast when driven like a pro :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct_RxkWp41g&feature=related
Click to expand...

I happen to know a little about Vettes. The CTS-V is just as capable as a stock Vette and only slightly slower around a track than a Grand Sport. The ZL1 ups the mark enough that it will take nothing short of a Z06 to take it at a track.

Lets face it, the C6 has had a good run and it's time for a new model. Hopefully the C7 will dominate across the board at GM.
 
Last edited:
KentState said:
I happen to know a little about Vettes. The CTS-V is just as capable as a stock Vette and only slightly slower around a track than a Grand Sport. The ZL1 ups the mark enough that it will take nothing short of a Z06 to take it at a track.

Lets face it, the C6 has had a good run and it's time for a new model. Hopefully the C7 will dominate across the board at GM.
Click to expand...

Those are some fair enough observations, though I think I'd still prefer the Vette over the Camaro, even if I had to start with a stock one. Starting with HUGELY less weight = lots of room for improvements, and many mods for the LS aren't terribly expensive. At the end of the day the Camaro is still a bit bloated, not to the extent of the Challenger, but it's still a hefty vehicle.

Now the Mustang, that's more in the right direction.
 
Pariah said:
I like the way they look, but I wouldn't want to own one. Every time I see one up close, I wonder why GM didn't include a periscope so the driver can see outside the car.
Click to expand...

Hahaha so true. I actually kind of like the exterior styling, if the visibility was better and it shaved about 300lbs or a little more off, I'd be singing a very different tune in the eternal Mustang vs. Camaro debate. I have to give the V6 Mustang over the Camaro V6, the Mustang GT over the Camaro SS, and probably the GT350 over the ZL1.

But unless it's something like ExDeath's unholy custom terrormobile, I'd still do Vette > Mustang of course 😀
 
Arkaign said:
Those are some fair enough observations, though I think I'd still prefer the Vette over the Camaro, even if I had to start with a stock one. Starting with HUGELY less weight = lots of room for improvements, and many mods for the LS aren't terribly expensive. At the end of the day the Camaro is still a bit bloated, not to the extent of the Challenger, but it's still a hefty vehicle.

Now the Mustang, that's more in the right direction.
Click to expand...

I would go with a Vette as well. For me, the CTS-V adds a lot of praticallity that my Vette lacked. However, the Camaro has horrible visibility, tiny trunk opening and amputee quality rear seats. If it was my call, a LS3 Vette with a blower, Stoptech brakes and big tires would be a good alternative.
 
If your comparing a Camaro to a Vette, the rear seats shouldn't even matter since the Vette has none at all anyway 😀
 
Arkaign said:
Hahaha so true. I actually kind of like the exterior styling, if the visibility was better and it shaved about 300lbs or a little more off, I'd be singing a very different tune in the eternal Mustang vs. Camaro debate. I have to give the V6 Mustang over the Camaro V6, the Mustang GT over the Camaro SS, and probably the GT350 over the ZL1.

But unless it's something like ExDeath's unholy custom terrormobile, I'd still do Vette > Mustang of course 😀
Click to expand...

Nothing custom about it, its just another dime a dozen factory block Terminator with a blower swap. Don't take anything away from those who do truly custom work from the ground up. 😉 Custom is fabbing your own turbo setup from a pile of pipes and sheet metal and not just buying a ready made kit.

Sorry, another pet peeve of mine. Its like everybody who has "custom" wheels...ordered from the same Foose catalog as everyone elses.
 
Last edited:
KentState said:
I would go with a Vette as well. For me, the CTS-V adds a lot of praticallity that my Vette lacked. However, the Camaro has horrible visibility, tiny trunk opening and amputee quality rear seats. If it was my call, a LS3 Vette with a blower, Stoptech brakes and big tires would be a good alternative.
Click to expand...

 
exdeath said:
Nothing custom about it, its just another dime a dozen factory block Terminator with a blower swap. Don't take anything away from those who do truly custom work from the ground up. 😉 Custom is fabbing your own turbo setup from a pile of pipes and sheet metal and not just buying a ready made kit.
Click to expand...

Fair enough, it's still an ass stomper 😀
 
How is this going to sell sitting next to a CTS-V? If you're going to have a $50,000+ 4,500 lb car it might as well be fully loaded.

I can see ZL1 intake and blower inlet parts being ordered for CTS-V modding 😀
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top