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Calorie restriction and slowed metabolism = longer life. ie: No excercise?

We already know the longest lived populations consume the least amount of animal products. That helped them live long without diseases we have today due to multiple reasons.
1. TOR, leucine, and Methionine are at much higher rates in animal products than plant products and all are associated with biologic aging.
2. If you eat predominantly whole plant foods you will generally be unintentionally calorie restricting due to the low caloric density of most plant foods.
 
We already know the longest lived populations consume the least amount of animal products. That helped them live long without diseases we have today due to multiple reasons.
1. TOR, leucine, and Methionine are at much higher rates in animal products than plant products and all are associated with biologic aging.
2. If you eat predominantly whole plant foods you will generally be unintentionally calorie restricting due to the low caloric density of most plant foods.

I'm going to disagree and state that it's not the animal products, but the processed foods and refined sugars that are causing much of the health issues we are noticing today. In regard to animal products it depends. Highly processed meats like deli meat, salami are a big issue. Good quality grass fed meats free from hormones are fine. Free range chicken is fine. Butter is fine. Coconut oil is fine. Bone broth is actually awesome and is great at curing leaking gut syndrome which many people have today.

As you can tell I'm pro keto. I've met a ton of people who have been on keto for many years. No issues Their diets consist of high animal fats, but no sugar and carbs. Sugar is a much bigger issue. Check out "The Case Against Sugar" for more.

Check out the Inuit and the Inuit Paradox. Their diets consist primarily of whale and seal blubber. They boil down the blubber for dipping sauce. They eat moose as well Very low rates of heart disease and cancer.

Finally, with regard to aging, IMO, a diet free of low fats causes our body to age quicker. Collegen breaks down. Much of the subcutaneous fat that is present in young people disappear as we get older. It's why veins are more prominent in the back hands of old people. There is no fat. Much of that can be avoided via a high fat diet. Studies have been done on the telemers in our bodies and it has been shown that they benefit most from a high fat diet. Your body is going to look younger on a high fat diet A high fat diet has been shown to help with depression, alzhemiers, and arthritis. The fat is coming mostly from animals
 
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The increased dietary intake of animal products in the American diet have a direct connection to the death from coronary heart disease and diabetes and high rates of disability in old age. The high level of saturated fats and cholesterol that most Americans eat ONLY come from animal products.

There are no population studies nor are there any conclusive scientific studies about the health benefits or consequences of a diet where you try to hold your body in ketosis for long periods of time. The actual evidence on the Intuit paint a different picture than what is commonly portrayed today in much of the Keto propaganda.
https://nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/

Regarding aging, I can't really comment on your statements since you didn't define what " a diet free of low fats" is. A diet free of fats would be very bad for you. A diet of low fats may be bad for you depending on how low of fat your diet is. Eating a diet predominantly of a variety of whole plant foods has been proven through population studies to be the best for health and long life without disability. Can a diet where you keep yourself in ketosis most of the time be healthy and good for a long life without disability? Perhaps, there is no definitive science out yet. It just hasn't been something people have been doing for long enough.

If you have a study that shows that a high fat diet "helps" for alzheimers, arthritis and depression I would love to be linked to it. Here is a link to a discussion of the Adventist Health Study 2 that included 73,308 participants.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4191896/
Conclusions and Relevance
Vegetarian diets are associated with lower all-cause mortality and with some reductions in cause-specific mortality. Results appeared to be more robust in males. These favorable associations should be considered carefully by those offering dietary guidance.


Regarding Telomere length
https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-016-0157-x

Multiple linear regression analysis indicated that legumes, nuts, fish and seaweeds were protective factors for LTL shortening, and sweetened carbonated beverage was a risk factor for LTL shortening
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Diabetes patients with better plasma glucose (HbA1c < 7 %) had longer LTL, LTL could reflect plasma glucose status in diabetes patients. LTL were probably not influenced by diet carbohydrates/fat proportions but was associated with diet ingredients. Diet ingredients significantly impacted on markers of inflammation and oxidative stress, which probably had an effect on LTL.

This study found that the key to telomere length is:
https://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/486586
Thus, the diet that is given to these persons should modify and decrease oxidative stress, which constantly changes the status of the cell.
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In vitro modeling experiments may provide some insight into how micronutrient deficiencies or excess may affect telomere integrity. Deficiencies in micronutrients such as vitamin C, vitamin E, zinc, and selenium may lead to increased susceptibility to oxidative radicals, which can either oxidize guanine in the telomere sequence or cause single- or double-stranded breaks in telomeric or subtelomeric sequences
 
I'm going to disagree and state that it's not the animal products, but the processed foods and refined sugars that are causing much of the health issues we are noticing today. In regard to animal products it depends. Highly processed meats like deli meat, salami are a big issue. Good quality grass fed meats free from hormones are fine. Free range chicken is fine. Butter is fine. Coconut oil is fine. Bone broth is actually awesome and is great at curing leaking gut syndrome which many people have today.

As you can tell I'm pro keto. I've met a ton of people who have been on keto for many years. No issues Their diets consist of high animal fats, but no sugar and carbs. Sugar is a much bigger issue. Check out "The Case Against Sugar" for more.

Check out the Inuit and the Inuit Paradox. Their diets consist primarily of whale and seal blubber. They boil down the blubber for dipping sauce. They eat moose as well Very low rates of heart disease and cancer.

Finally, with regard to aging, IMO, a diet free of low fats causes our body to age quicker. Collegen breaks down. Much of the subcutaneous fat that is present in young people disappear as we get older. It's why veins are more prominent in the back hands of old people. There is no fat. Much of that can be avoided via a high fat diet. Studies have been done on the telemers in our bodies and it has been shown that they benefit most from a high fat diet. Your body is going to look younger on a high fat diet A high fat diet has been shown to help with depression, alzhemiers, and arthritis. The fat is coming mostly from animals

While I agree that any reduction in processed foods and refined sugars is going to be majorly beneficial for your health, having done Keto myself as well, I can't say it's the end all, be all diet that people need to follow. For one, it's an "Emergency Power" mode for humans. Can it be effective on an individual basis? Yes, but would I recommend it for the greater population, absolutely not. And I jokingly say sometimes, why run off emergency power when you can run off the grid more efficiently and cheaply?

There are a few key differences that happen with your body when you compare Plant Based vs Keto. Plant based diets are naturally and significantly superior sources of fiber, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, and contrary to popular belief, strong and complete sources of protein, too. And with that, all the benefits of an extremely nutrient rich diet are exhibited within the human body. Carbohydrates are also the cleanest and most energy efficient energy sources for the human body, as the conversion of one to the other isn't favored. In fact, the human body will always directly use carbohydrates for energy, protein for building and rebuilding, and fat for storage if it can, which is why the saying, "The fat you eat is the fat you wear," is largely true.

There is also one very key and highly important detail missing when we talk about large scale meat consumption; land usage. The amount of land required to sustain one person on a heavy meat diet is vastly more (30-40x more, or 1/6th of an acre vs 6-7 acres per person) compared to someone eating plant based. We do not have the land required to sustain our population on a keto based diet. Does that mean that meat is evil? No, go ahead and eat it. What I'm saying is though is that the way we're plowing down forests and clearing land for livestock is unsustainable.

I do not think taking away meat is the answer btw, I just think at the way we produce meat is not sustainable for our planet. Meat should be treated as more of a delicacy and not the main course, and we pay the price for it dearly. On top of a highly inefficient medal system, we have incredible rates of disease due to our poor diet choices. The best thing we can do is go back to eating a more wholesome, plant based with bits of meat here and there, and we'll save trillions in the process.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/22/health/calorie-restriction-longer-life-study/index.html

In the study, people who restricted their calorie intake and had a slowed metabolism had the same biomarkers as those who lived to age 90 and 100 years old.


when you exercise, your body's rate of metabolism increases.
so stop exercising to slow your metabolism to live longer? (in addition to caloric restriction)

I've been restricting my calories since the beginning of January. Most days consist of oatmeal in the morning, coffee with cream, and for supper I have two chicken breasts and a helping of mashed potatoes or mac n cheese. A few days I would deviate, but for 80% it consists of that. I figure the calories come out to around 1000 to 1100. So far I've gone from 242 down to 208. Not once did I do any exercise. I'll let you know how this study pans out.
 
I'm going to disagree and state that it's not the animal products, but the processed foods and refined sugars that are causing much of the health issues we are noticing today. In regard to animal products it depends. Highly processed meats like deli meat, salami are a big issue. Good quality grass fed meats free from hormones are fine. Free range chicken is fine. Butter is fine. Coconut oil is fine. Bone broth is actually awesome and is great at curing leaking gut syndrome which many people have today.

As you can tell I'm pro keto. I've met a ton of people who have been on keto for many years. No issues Their diets consist of high animal fats, but no sugar and carbs. Sugar is a much bigger issue. Check out "The Case Against Sugar" for more.

IMO, to go Keto you need to have complete disregard for blood testing markers. Many of the Keto blood reports I have seen online show 300+ or even 400+ Total cholesterol readings!

I really don't know how anyone convinces themselves that 400+ TC is healthy IMO. But I do notice there are massive keto blog posts trying to rationalize having high cholesterol. Like this 5 year Keto Carnivore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-uuyzUpgc&t=1395s

TC: 482 !
LDL: 392 !

He thinks that is totally healthy, because of some other Keto gurus have convinced him this is so...
 
We already know the longest lived populations consume the least amount of animal products. That helped them live long without diseases we have today due to multiple reasons.
1. TOR, leucine, and Methionine are at much higher rates in animal products than plant products and all are associated with biologic aging.
2. If you eat predominantly whole plant foods you will generally be unintentionally calorie restricting due to the low caloric density of most plant foods.
Thing is you are going to die anyway. Restricting things that you enjoy when you're youngish and fittish so you can have a few more years of old age is just going to lead to disappoint.
 
Thing is you are going to die anyway. Restricting things that you enjoy when you're youngish and fittish so you can have a few more years of old age is just going to lead to disappoint.

The point is that you can eat in a way that is better for yourself and more importantly better for the environment. People keep trying to say that if you eat mostly plants you'll die. Then you prove that won't happen and then people appeal to futility and say you are going to die anyway.

How about living your life in a way that you can enjoy as well as avoid doing harm both to the planet and other sentient beings? What America and the world eat today is leading directly to the destruction of our environment. Maybe you'll live a short enough period to avoid dealing with it (I know I will) but we are speeding the end of the earth as we know it by what we eat. And that is something we need to change.
 
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